Any Experience with M Resort $500 Loss Rebate?

[mickeycrimm]

Advantage play on machines is not that well known compared to blackjack. Blackjack has been well documented in the media as an exploitable game if one is allowed to play like they want to. Blackjack AP's being banned from and even mistreated by casinos simply because they hold an edge against them is well known. So there really is no question about whether one can AP blackjack. Machine advantage play, on the other hand, is not that well known about.

I had thought that blackhole's skepticism was about machine advantage player's. But here recently we can clearly see he is consistently attacking a blackjack AP. What is that all about? It's accepted knowledge that blackjack can be beaten. I think the answer is blackhole is just another gambling forum troll of the larrys variety. He is not here to learn or convey any knowledge. He is just here to troll. His objective is to turn this forum into a cesspool.

[MisterV]

Many factors serve to motivate people to "hate" other people, ideas, or things.

It is pointless to ask why, at least in the context of this forum; it should be enough to know that it is not currently a crime to do so, and some protection is afforded to the hater under the first amendment to the US Constitution.

"Blackhole" is cut from the same bolt of cloth as the neo-Nazi fascists who were involved in the demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia recently.

I believe your best best is to simply ignore the haters, or in the alternative respond to every "hate" they post with a trite, dismissive stock phrase such as "So says the knuckle-dragging retard," or "How'd that lobotomy work out for you?"

By his own report, "blackhole" is an old duffer; he won't change as "hate" makes him feel alive.

Really, who cares what he thinks or says?

[redietz]

I knew you were married, KJ. I suspect blackhole is also well aware of that, but couldn't bring himself to type it. It's as you say -- he just does not have much discipline or control of his anger. He must make a helluva recreational gambler. Even a free speech advocate such as myself thinks that his language and tone probably deserves a ban. If he bothers to respond to my question regarding your role, well, we'll see. This isn't an alt right site, far as I know, so he'd be overstepping. That's why I asked, to be honest, because if he answers that question, he probably should be banned.

I am surprised he claims to be as old as me or older. His language is that of some spoiled youngster. Who knows? I'm still shocked that he seems to think Axel should have wanted to meet him! Why? Is Axel hurting that much for a free meal? That kind of reasoning is straight out of the Twilight Zone (one of my fave shows, for sure).

Now me -- I'd meet him for dinner, but only if I get to tape the thing. As I said, I have the rights to www.The SkepticalGambler.com, and blackhole's arguments and anger would make interesting topics. Of course, then he wouldn't be anonymous, which would put us on equal footing.

Until then, I'll just continue to edit his posts. It'll help readers understand him more clearly, so I'll be doing him a favor. Maybe, just maybe, it'll slow down his typing so he can reign in the hate a tad while editing himself. That would save me some work.

[MisterV]

Until then, I'll just continue to edit his posts. It'll help readers understand him more clearly, so I'll be doing him a favor. Maybe, just maybe, it'll slow down his typing so he can reign in the hate a tad while editing himself. That would save me some work.

Huh?

Are you an admin?

[redietz]

Until then, I'll just continue to edit his posts. It'll help readers understand him more clearly, so I'll be doing him a favor. Maybe, just maybe, it'll slow down his typing so he can reign in the hate a tad while editing himself. That would save me some work.

Huh?

Are you an admin?

LOL hell, no. I just do it as in the post above where I point out that "fake fallacy" is a kind of oxymoron written by someone who's not reading his own stuff. It's my contribution to clarity of writing -- squares my karma with the world.

[Alan Mendelson]

Edit posts or alter them? Step down from your pedestal.

[redietz]

Edit posts or alter them? Step down from your pedestal.

Alter posts? How does one do that?

Anything I commented on was a direct quote, like "fake fallacies" and "alleged claims." Any editor would have tossed those as confusing at best and oxymorons at worst.

And Alan, every socioeconomic dig you take at people is from a pedestal.

[Rob.Singer]

Many factors serve to motivate people to "hate" other people, ideas, or things.

It is pointless to ask why, at least in the context of this forum; it should be enough to know that it is not currently a crime to do so, and some protection is afforded to the hater under the first amendment to the US Constitution.

"Blackhole" is cut from the same bolt of cloth as the neo-Nazi fascists who were involved in the demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia recently.

I believe your best best is to simply ignore the haters, or in the alternative respond to every "hate" they post with a trite, dismissive stock phrase such as "So says the knuckle-dragging retard," or "How'd that lobotomy work out for you?"

By his own report, "blackhole" is an old duffer; he won't change as "hate" makes him feel alive.

Really, who cares what he thinks or says?

Who cares what he thinks or says? You do....obviously. And you also should understand that most Americans believe homo marriage is as disgusting as it sounds. No normal man would rather have rump roast over fish. Bad choice all-around.

[Alan Mendelson]

I don't do socioeconomic digs. I'm not a racist.

[Biloxi Bill]

Many factors serve to motivate people to "hate" other people, ideas, or things.

It is pointless to ask why, at least in the context of this forum; it should be enough to know that it is not currently a crime to do so, and some protection is afforded to the hater under the first amendment to the US Constitution.

"Blackhole" is cut from the same bolt of cloth as the neo-Nazi fascists who were involved in the demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia recently.

I believe your best best is to simply ignore the haters, or in the alternative respond to every "hate" they post with a trite, dismissive stock phrase such as "So says the knuckle-dragging retard," or "How'd that lobotomy work out for you?"

By his own report, "blackhole" is an old duffer; he won't change as "hate" makes him feel alive.

Really, who cares what he thinks or says?

Who cares what he thinks or says? You do....obviously. And you also should understand that most Americans believe homo marriage is as disgusting as it sounds. No normal man would rather have rump roast over fish. Bad choice all-around.

If any man sees a mug shot of your wife, he would have a tough choice on his hands

[MisterV]

most Americans believe homo marriage is as disgusting as it sounds. No normal man would rather have rump roast over fish. Bad choice all-around.

My understanding is that people don't choose to be gay, it's just the way they are.

There have always been gays throughout the world; what good has come from stifling, executing, and punishing them?

Think of the advances in clothing design, architecture and interior decorating which have been lost to the world.

Best to let people be who and what they are; not all square pegs fit into a round hole (groan).

[Rob.Singer]

I have no issue with what people CHOOSE to do or be. (yes, it is a choice). They're the ones who must live with their odd choices and suffer the consequences because if it.

The problem is with their newly found empowerment as delivered by our recently retired most idiotic & racist president in our nation's history. There gay people are now treated with the same kid gloves as Muslim's are in this country. There's comparatively VERY few of them, and those who push the envelope by wanting to be "married" when it makes absolutely no physical, psychological, or biological sense, are simply sick and extremely confused. Yes they push their sickening agenda, but normal people who aren't afraid of political correctness also have the right to tell the truth about these weirdos.

[redietz]

I have no issue with what people CHOOSE to do or be. (yes, it is a choice). They're the ones who must live with their odd choices and suffer the consequences because if it.

The problem is with their newly found empowerment as delivered by our recently retired most idiotic & racist president in our nation's history. There gay people are now treated with the same kid gloves as Muslim's are in this country. There's comparatively VERY few of them, and those who push the envelope by wanting to be "married" when it makes absolutely no physical, psychological, or biological sense, are simply sick and extremely confused. Yes they push their sickening agenda, but normal people who aren't afraid of political correctness also have the right to tell the truth about these weirdos.

As usual, Rob's a little shy about numbers. Most estimates place the percentage of self-identifying LGBT in the United States at roughly four, with younger demographics self-identifying at a much higher rate, approaching eight percent. Now "self-identifying" is not the same as "behaving." That is a key part of the context. So the percent of people who occasionally (or more) behave gay is undoubtedly much higher.

I do not know what the country-by-country percentages are, but I caution against using some two-minute google search to try to figure that out. I would recommend, if you really want to know, to head to a university library and check for recent surveys in the periodicals section for the most updated information. Sociology and demography journals would be the first choices.

[kewlJ]

As usual Singer is completely wrong. The guys just makes up facts to suit himself.

Latest polls indicate Americans support gay marriage by a 2-1 margin.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/117328/Marriage.aspx

http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/c...-gay-marriage/

[Alan Mendelson]

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that same sex marriage is available under the equal protection rights of the Constitution. Personally I wish they came up with something with the same rights and privileges but didn't call it "marriage." But besides my objection to the use of the word "marriage" I think same sex couples should have the equal protection other couples have under the law.

[MisterV]

I have no issue with what people CHOOSE to do or be. (yes, it is a choice). They're the ones who must live with their odd choices and suffer the consequences because if it.

What, do you think that one day KD Lang woke up and said, "Hmmm, today is the day I have to choose. Gay or straight?"

Gays no more choose to homosexual than you or I choose to be heterosexual.

In Rome and Greece at the height of their glory being gay was common, and not condemned.

From those roots sprang western civilization; now if we could only keep religion out of it we might finally get somewhere.

[kewlJ]

I don't want to go off on a political side track (gay marriage). It isn't my intent to suggest how anyone should feel about that kind of thing. I just don't see what it has to do with a gambling discussion. It seems bizarre to me when during a gambling discussion, someone throws out a personal attack or nasty comment based on someone sexuality or any other non-related thing, like someone's position on abortion or gun control. What does that kind of attack even have to do with the topic? That is just nasty people, getting nasty and looking for a reason to inject "hate".

[redietz]

KJ, get with the program, man. Rob never posts numbers. Neither does blackhole, come to think of it. It's all about opining. Didn't anybody give you a copy of the script??

[kewlJ]

KJ, get with the program, man. Rob never posts numbers. Neither does blackhole, come to think of it. It's all about opining. Didn't anybody give you a copy of the script??

No, I didn't get a copy of the script.

I don't know, I guess I am wondering what I am doing here? Wondering what some of the other AP's are doing here as well?

For me personally, there is like 1 or 2 other BJ players, so there isn't going to be much BJ talk. Hell there is more 'haters' than BJ players. I don't see many new members signing up, so that is not likely to change much. As a matter of fact 713 members, but only 53 active members. What exactly constitutes and "active" member?

So, this is the jist of the site. There is like 10 or 12 members that participate at all. Among them, 4 anti-AP 'haters' that attack everything an AP says....right down to any personal stuff they may know or find out. It's not enough that they attack on substance, they will attack every thing they know about a poster. I don't know, I am really wondering how this is enjoyable for anyone other than the 4 anti-AP trolls? Should we really be feeding them?

[redietz]

Probably not.

With arci gone, I have felt a certain responsibility to speak up on occasion when some truly hideous gambling advice was passed off as expertise. I'm not a math guy (although I played for the Penn State grad/faculty intramural basketball team), so my value doing this is limited. When I need a math answer, I consult people with doctorates who teach college math courses. You guys are better than me at doing the math and explaining what is or is not a good value bet.

Having spent 90-100 days a year in Las Vegas for decades, however, I do like helping out people who are visiting for the first few times in terms of where to eat or what to do. It does get old, getting taken to task for being working class because I know what buffets are better than others, but that's okay.

Should we feed the trolls? Probably not. It's gotten to the point where the people who are active on this site know who knows what or doesn't know squat. Engaging the trolls serves no real purpose.