Any Experience with M Resort $500 Loss Rebate?

[mickeycrimm]

I don't do socioeconomic digs. I'm not a racist.

But your great friend Rob is a racist, and a homophobe. How does that work out with your southern California political correctness?

[redietz]

I don't do socioeconomic digs. I'm not a racist.

But your great friend Rob is a racist, and a homophobe. How does that work out with your southern California political correctness?

I was going to let this one slide, as maybe Alan was just having a bad day, but a "socioeconomic dig" doesn't really have to do with racism. I don't know what his comment meant. A socioeconomic dig has to do with socioeconomics -- how much wealth or income someone has and how that has been shaped by local or regional culture. Socioeconomics isn't referencing race; it's referencing social processes affecting money or material wealth.

So when Alan talks about an AP being in his 50's and living with mom and playing 25-cent video poker, and the connotation is negative, that is a "socioeconomic dig." Alan's taking a shot at the guy's wealth and/or his priorities/values. When Alan talks about people having different definitions of "making a living," with the inference that his making a living is different from yours, that is a socioeconomic dig. Not only do you not make his living; it's assumed you should want to make his living, so that speaks to values and priorities. It has nothing directly to do with race.

I grew up in Molly Maguire country. Mickey, if you don't know what that is, check it out. My county, and its mineral rights, was owned by two families. It pretty much still is, although now they have partnerships with Bechtel and such. Back 150 years, the coal companies owned the housing and food stores for all of the workers. Now they own the 7/11s. Anyway, that's partly why the hair goes up on the back of my neck when people make socioeconomic digs. There's a famous movie with Sean Connery, The Molly Maguires. Worth watching.

Anyway, the point is, socioeconomics is about wealth/income and social processes, not race per se. Racism can be a part of it, but that's not the gist.

[Alan Mendelson]

I will give a dig to anyone who claims to be an AP and the best they can do is eek out a low level income playing 25-cent video poker. In fact I asked him repeatedly why he isn't playing $1 video poker which has better pay tables and he's never answered me. That says a lot about AP play, doesn't it?

Secondly I don't take Rob to be serious about anything he says here. I've told you this before. Why you guys fall for his stuff makes me wonder and laugh.

[Rob.Singer]

These guys come here for a certain reason Alan, and it certainly ain't to tell any truths about their AP gambling habits. And aside from mickey continuously pulling info from old posts on vpfree and then making believe he lived all those casino promos he blabs about (Tuscany, Four Queens, Laughlin, etc. etc.) it's like picking off dumb fish in a bowl. They just never learn....but I take credit for that too

[mickeycrimm]

These guys come here for a certain reason Alan, and it certainly ain't to tell any truths about their AP gambling habits. And aside from mickey continuously pulling info from old posts on vpfree and then making believe he lived all those casino promos he blabs about (Tuscany, Four Queens, Laughlin, etc. etc.) it's like picking off dumb fish in a bowl. They just never learn....but I take credit for that too

In the case of the Tuscany they just didn't pull any casino business when they opened. So they came up with the 100 coin bonus for the 4 to the royal promo. All it attracted was pros. They had a bunch of 25/50/1 10/7 Double Bonus. On dollars it was a $100 an hour play. After taking a beating on dollars management disqualified them from the promotion. That left the 25/50 denoms. But that didn't last long either. They threw a sign up at the slot club desk that said "WE GIVE UP."

It's these kinds of promotions that Singer just does not get. His idea would be that the promotion is no good because "you have to hope to miss the royal." LOLOLOL!

[redietz]

I will give a dig to anyone who claims to be an AP and the best they can do is eek out a low level income playing 25-cent video poker. In fact I asked him repeatedly why he isn't playing $1 video poker which has better pay tables and he's never answered me. That says a lot about AP play, doesn't it?

Secondly I don't take Rob to be serious about anything he says here. I've told you this before. Why you guys fall for his stuff makes me wonder and laugh.

But would you be wondering and laughing if Rob substituted "Jew" for "homo" or "noodle slurper?" If not, why not?

[Alan Mendelson]

Because Rob is my friend, yes, I would laugh it off if he substituted "Jew."

Give it a rest, redietz. Give it a rest.

[mickeycrimm]

Because Rob is my friend, yes, I would laugh it off if he substituted "Jew." Give it a rest, redietz. Give it a rest.

It doesn't deserve a rest. You know how it works in business. How do you think your clients would feel if they knew you fraternize with racists/homophobes? It's ruined many a good business.

[Alan Mendelson]

I don't think Rob is a racist or a homophobe. I think he's pulling your chain.

[kewlJ]

I don't think Rob is a racist or a homophobe. I think he's pulling your chain.

You are in denial.

Because Rob is my friend, yes, I would laugh it off if he substituted "Jew."

More denial. Making 'excuses' for friends and family makes one an enabler.

[Alan Mendelson]

Of all the people on this forum, who have I met and talked to? I haven't met any of you who call Rob a racist. I have met Rob. I'm sorry that my opinion is different from yours.

Why don't all of you just ignore him? (Because you can't.)

[Rob.Singer]

I have zero tolerance for white trash also. racist! I mean....what purpose on this earth does a slob like mickey serve? Will he be missed, or will there be ANY memory of such an irrelevant soul once he drinks or smokes himself to death?

One thing's for sure--there will no longer be the plagiarism from vpfree that we constantly see, as he pretends to have been involved in every gambling event (and now solar eclipse events) that's ever been.

He's a home!

[redietz]

Friendship Post #2

I have zero tolerance for white trash Jews also. [sp] racist!

[mickeycrimm]

Rob the Stringer has more routes than Greyhound Buslines. No one ever wrote in the forums about the Tuscany play before I did. Axel is the only one who showed knowledge of the Tuscany play and he posted about it after I did. Rob why don't you prove your assertions like you ask everyone else to do? Post up some quotes from others about the Tuscany play where their timestamps are before mine. But we both know you can't do it. Just another prevarication from a complusive liar and bet welsher.

[mickeycrimm]

I have zero tolerance for white trash also. racist! I mean....what purpose on this earth does a slob like mickey serve? Will he be missed, or will there be ANY memory of such an irrelevant soul once he drinks or smokes himself to death?
One thing's for sure--there will no longer be the plagiarism from vpfree that we constantly see, as he pretends to have been involved in every gambling event (and now solar eclipse events) that's ever been. He's a home!

I have zero tolerance for that white trash Rob Singer AKA Robert Harry Ass Argentino. I mean....what purpose on this earth does a slob like Rob serve? Will he be missed, or will there be ANY memory of such an irrelevant soul once the coward dies his lonely death?

[mickeycrimm]

I don't think Rob is a racist or a homophobe. I think he's pulling your chain.

He's "pulled everyone's chain" enough that he is totally isolated and loathed by the professional gambling community. Then he runs his mouth about others dying alone. I'm a genealogist. I know how to find graves. If Rob chooses to be buried instead of cremated I will find his grave and PISS ON IT!

[AxelWolf]

I don't think Rob is a racist or a homophobe. I think he's pulling your chain.

He's "pulled everyone's chain" enough that he is totally isolated and loathed by the professional gambling community. Then he runs his mouth about others dying alone. I'm a genealogist. I know how to find graves. If Rob chooses to be buried instead of cremated I will find his grave and PISS ON IT!

We/I have talked about this exact play on WOV or GF, I can't rember who brought it up or why. Whatver the case, I rember there being a discussion. I did play this promo.

[mickeycrimm]

We/I have talked about this exact play on WOV or GF, I can't rember who brought it up or why. Whatver the case, I rember there being a discussion. I did play this promo.

It was at Gambling Forums just a few months ago where I challenged exoter to tell me what the add-on percentage is when you are getting a 100 coin bonus on non-paying 4-card royals at 9/6 Jacks. Of course, he couldn't do it. It was the first mention ever in the gambling forums about this kind of promotion. I think you made a comment or two on it. My purpose was to expose exoter for what he really is, a low level machine AP, not the best as he claims.

[pkspins]

Sorry to interrupt the discussion but...

Did @Fabismonte and his wife ever go back to play the rebate free play?

I am also curious how one figures out the add on percentage for 100 coin bonuses on 4 card non paying royals.

[Rob.Singer]

AP's figure out how often four-to-the-royal mathematically are supposed to occur, they eliminate the ones that pay something for a high pair, flush, straight, and SF, then they add in the 100 coin bonus for the non-payers....and like magic, they suddenly have a handful of those ap phantom bucks that are handed out to them like candy at every promotion around town. But watch out!---Vons & Ralphs stopped taking them years ago.