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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    North Carolina!

    That's an isolated region for casinos, yes? Is there a definitive directory and/or map of US casinos?

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    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
    North Carolina!

    That's an isolated region for casinos, yes? Is there a definitive directory and/or map of US casinos?

    Probably American Casino Guide has the best state maps for locations and thumbnail summaries.

    Mickey's a few hours up the road from me. The two Cherokee casinos are maybe an hour apart. The problem with Cherokee is that you almost need a helicopter to get into it in the winter. I saw Billy Idol some years back at Cherokee. It's a big, good-looking place, recently expanded. Not sure how kosher everything is -- Jean Scott had some interesting experiences there that you can look up at LVA. Todd visited Cherokee a time or two also.

    If Mickey wants to help with my tracking down the people Rob.Singer said called him while allegedly working for me, that can be arranged. If mickey drops in, we can go down to my bank's notary and I'll sign some affidavits in his presence. Regarding my late wife and Rob.Singer's allegations on this forum, mickey and I could also visit the funeral home that handled her burial, and we could straighten things out regarding Rob.Singer's claims.

    I'm sure mickey would want to get the facts straight and out there for the public, as he is a stand-up guy.

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    I love this thread by Mickeycrimm. One of my favorite discussion and threads by him. Beside just pictures of the outsides of casinos (and sometimes his rooms) I would love to read about some of his plays and experiences at different casinos, but understand why he can't and doesn't do so.

    I also would like to see some pictures of his travels around the U.S. unrelated to the casinos that he is visiting. Just some pictures of the good old USA and special and not so special places.

    I have thought about taking a blackjack trip around the country, maybe 3, 4, 5 months driving to and visiting some out of the way casinos and seeing parts of the country that I don't normally see. It would be a great way to escape Summer in Vegas.

    But I am not sure a trip involving blackjack play is realistic. Many casinos are too small, I wouldn't know their tolerance or comfort levels and with Databases any mistakes or issue, might cost me more than it would be worth.

    Anyway, just wanted to tell you mickey, how much I enjoy this thread and hope you enjoy your travels.

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    By far the best part of this thread is from page 2 through till 9. It went from Excellent to Very Good, after the biggest no namer with over 1000 posts in forum history whined about Rob. Congrats to Quahaug, for being so irrelevant and easily forgettable after a sizeable 1071 posts.

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    Quahaug even defeats Herr Dieter on the no namer wall of shame, prior to his Rusty's house Dicktatorship.

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    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Not sure how kosher everything is -- Jean Scott had some interesting experiences there that you can look up at LVA.
    I may have missed the discussion. But she still plays Cherokee, although now I think she's semi-recreational because she's not set up to AP effectively from her base at the assisted living.

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    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Not sure how kosher everything is -- Jean Scott had some interesting experiences there that you can look up at LVA.
    I may have missed the discussion. But she still plays Cherokee, although now I think she's semi-recreational because she's not set up to AP effectively from her base at the assisted living.
    Right. A few years back, she went there and then announced she would not be returning, without going into details. The only thing she did mention, which I found odd because I experienced the same thing a year or two before her report, was how so many buttons on the vp machines were "sticky." If you go back far enough in her blog, you'll find that initial series of entries. Then, as time passed, she decided the offers were good enough for her to go back. When she announced this, she did not go into the why she said she would not in the first place.

    So that part of her change-of-mind is a mystery. I did not ask her directly why.

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    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    A few years back, she went there and then announced she would not be returning, without going into details.
    I didn't find anything from a quick search of her blog history. If I had to guess, maybe she had a bad employee interaction, such as refusing to compensate her on a hold error (due to the sticky buttons).

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    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    A few years back, she went there and then announced she would not be returning, without going into details.
    I didn't find anything from a quick search of her blog history. If I had to guess, maybe she had a bad employee interaction, such as refusing to compensate her on a hold error (due to the sticky buttons).
    I recall (maybe incorrectly), but I had the sense she got clobbered at the far end of the bell curve. She didn't report specific wins or losses for the trip in question, which I thought was odd. I was paying attention because of the "sticky buttons" comment, which stood out to me because the place is spic and span otherwise. It's really nice -- reminds me of Pechanga without the high-end lobby. Anyway, that was my sense of it.

    I honestly have not played enough there to have any opinion, although I do have a healthy respect for the fact that Native American casinos could rob you blind and really, nobody is going to know. I've read some of the tribal papers, and make no mistake, they are their own nation.

    Todd (Dan Druff) went to Cherokee once or twice in the last couple of years and I assume played a fair amount. He might have some insights.

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    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I recall (maybe incorrectly), but I had the sense she got clobbered at the far end of the bell curve.
    Really, Really bad, seemingly unusual results, over a short period of time can play tricks on even the most experienced player, even someone as experienced as Jean Scott. You start thinking all kinds of stuff. And especially if you go into that session or trip having had seemingly unusually bad results before, or have read accounts or heard rumors from other players about that location. I have had it happen to me as recently as 2020, when after the covid shutdown I got clobbered at one casino for 30k in about 5 short sessions of blackjack play.

    But when you step back, take a breath and run some software you usually realize that it was in fact just that really bad side of the bell curve. Anyone who plays enough, will at some point find themselves there. This is what it means to be a professional or as I sometimes say "professional level" (if not actually living off your play) player. You figure this out.

    And it is perfectly alright to vent publicly which sounds like Jean Scott might have done. That is why I try to give some BJ players that vent publicly a little leeway (zenking). It is perfectly ok, but do yourself (and the rest of us) a favor and figure it out and learn from it.
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    I recall (maybe incorrectly), but I had the sense she got clobbered at the far end of the bell curve.
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I do have a healthy respect for the fact that Native American casinos could rob you blind and really, nobody is going to know.
    I've played video poker extensively (vulturing UX multipliers in both environments for the most part) in both regulated (Nevada) and unregulated (Indian) environments. I think I make and have made the correct holds in both environments. I've made money in both environments (net up), but have made proportionately more money in regulated environments (taking into account bet size and action). Anyhow, here is an excerpt from http://www.cgcc.ca.gov/?pageID=complaints (I've posted this before but it bears repeating). Feel free to draw some conclusions (kind of like complaining to the FTC about a brokerage where they tell you to take up the complaint with the brokerage and forward your complaint to the brokerage).
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    P.S. like many others, I love your Road Pics thread Mickey - I think I will limit my non-subject matter posts in this thread moving forward.

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    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    I think I will limit my non-subject matter posts in this thread moving forward.
    I hope this Jean Scott discussion isn't too much of a hijack. Playing on the road typically involves heavy doses of tribal casinos.

    Now I understand the inference was rigged games. I naively assumed otherwise because I doubted she could accumulate sufficient data as an occasional visitor. Personally, I don't trust my perceptions at all. I'm hyper-aware of "bad" anomalies, while good anomalies slip through unnoticed.

    But most gamblers aren't aware of their biases. Whatever the actual amount of riggage, public perception is higher. And whereas I don't want to play a rigged game, for them it's an invitation to be more creative. They can deviate from optimal strategy and play their hunches because the actual odds are unknown.

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    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    I think I will limit my non-subject matter posts in this thread moving forward.
    I hope this Jean Scott discussion isn't too much of a hijack. Playing on the road typically involves heavy doses of tribal casinos.

    Now I understand the inference was rigged games. I naively assumed otherwise because I doubted she could accumulate sufficient data as an occasional visitor. Personally, I don't trust my perceptions at all. I'm hyper-aware of "bad" anomalies, while good anomalies slip through unnoticed.

    But most gamblers aren't aware of their biases. Whatever the actual amount of riggage, public perception is higher. And whereas I don't want to play a rigged game, for them it's an invitation to be more creative. They can deviate from optimal strategy and play their hunches because the actual odds are unknown.
    Future ROTY not disappointing. I'm curious to hear what you're buddy Ray Finkle has to say. He's been awfully quiet for the first month.

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    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    I'm curious to hear what you're buddy Ray Finkle has to say.
    Not getting the reference, but I want to figure it out myself. I see he's a movie character who changed gender. I was once accused of starting hormone replacement therapy, but some guys just have a naturally slim build.

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