Road Pics

[RS__]

But does anyone report on these casinos? There are perhaps millions of people who live in these states who probably check the Internet for nearby casinos and Mickey could lock that business up.

I think the target audience is way too small, since I imagine most people don't do any research about gambling, casinos, or anything of the like. Now if it was for LV, that might be a different story.

[Alan Mendelson]

But does anyone report on these casinos? There are perhaps millions of people who live in these states who probably check the Internet for nearby casinos and Mickey could lock that business up.

I think the target audience is way too small, since I imagine most people don't do any research about gambling, casinos, or anything of the like. Now if it was for LV, that might be a different story.

Absolutely disagree. the first thing consumers do today is go to the web to check out EVERYTHING. think of all the locals who go to the web to find out info about holiday events, New Year's Eve parties, etc. the fourth quarter is the biggest time of the year for casino restaurants.

And audience sizes are relative. A casino in one of these markets will gladly pay to advertise for 1,000 visitors, while a Vegas casino wouldn't.

[quahaug]

Who actually goes to these casinos? I would guess locals for the most part and maybe some truckers and some strays just passing through. If that's the case the regulars would be on the casinos web site and the rest wouldn't care.

[mcap]

Some people aren't for sale and care how they make their money as much or more than how much they make. I'm not glorifying AP, I'm putting down simply being for sale to the highest bidder.

[Rob.Singer]

Who actually goes to these casinos? I would guess locals for the most part and maybe some truckers and some strays just passing through. If that's the case the regulars would be on the casinos web site and the rest wouldn't care.

There's tens of thousands of "mickeycrimms" out there who drive around different states checking out the Indian casinos, only they don't bother with or care about anything to do with internet forums. We travel a lot, and the number of these places that have and keep popping up dotting our nation's highways are amazing. And they aren't subsidized by the poor locals & truckers and firewater-guzzling injuns who moved in from Gallop only.

[mickeycrimm]

Who actually goes to these casinos? I would guess locals for the most part and maybe some truckers and some strays just passing through. If that's the case the regulars would be on the casinos web site and the rest wouldn't care.

All of the Indian casinos I've been in this year are very modern, clean, have excellent hotel rooms, and state of the art machines. The video poker is abysmal in most of them so I'm relegated to vulturing certain line games. I hibernated in Montana for over nine years and had no idea what current casinos floors looked like. But I do now. There is a whole new generation of vulturable line games out there. They are worth fairly good money if you know how to work it right. That means hanging around the casino in the busy hours picking off plays left by the ploppies.

The Riverwind in Norman, Oklahoma had abysmal video poker but had several vulturable line games. I stayed over night there so I worked the machines that night and the next morning before pulling out. I made a few hundred dollars. I only ran a $4200 wager on the card. This is what the sent me in the mail. My next trip though will be cheaper costwise. I won't make those dates but I'm sure they will send me another offer when this one expires.

[quahaug]

Who actually goes to these casinos? I would guess locals for the most part and maybe some truckers and some strays just passing through. If that's the case the regulars would be on the casinos web site and the rest wouldn't care.

All of the Indian casinos I've been in this year are very modern, clean, have excellent hotel rooms, and state of the art machines. The video poker is abysmal in most of them so I'm relegated to vulturing certain line games. I hibernated in Montana for over nine years and had no idea what current casinos floors looked like. But I do now. There is a whole new generation of vulturable line games out there. They are worth fairly good money if you know how to work it right. That means hanging around the casino in the busy hours picking off plays left by the ploppies.

The Riverwind in Norman, Oklahoma had abysmal video poker but had several vulturable line games. I stayed over night there so I worked the machines that night and the next morning before pulling out. I made a few hundred dollars. I only ran a $4200 wager on the card. This is what the sent me in the mail. My next trip though will be cheaper costwise. I won't make those dates but I'm sure they will send me another offer when this one expires.

Is it an average looking clientele at these places? The only Indian casinos I've been to are in Connecticut so that is a little different animal I think.

[Rob.Singer]

Again, a claim of winning after supposedly playing "$4200" on an unidentified game, with no pictures, other than something any tourist would get for signing up for a slot club card. You DO realize that mickey as an ultra-experienced casino rat, do you not? And BTW, you do also know that a simple call into that casino with one or two of those numbers shown on those HUGE comps you "earned", will easily result in them giving out your real name. Correct?

You continue to defeat yourself. Please stay off the sauce.

[mickeycrimm]

Singer has been inside casinos more than 1000 times in the past 15 years. If anyone fits the definition of a casino rat it's Robert Harry Argentino, aka Rob Singer. He blew his inheritance, filed bankruptcy, and couldn't even pay rent on a small fleabag apartment, hence court judgements for non-payment of rent. Low life Rob wants to bring everyone down to his sewer rat level.

[mickeycrimm]

Who actually goes to these casinos? I would guess locals for the most part and maybe some truckers and some strays just passing through. If that's the case the regulars would be on the casinos web site and the rest wouldn't care.

All of the Indian casinos I've been in this year are very modern, clean, have excellent hotel rooms, and state of the art machines. The video poker is abysmal in most of them so I'm relegated to vulturing certain line games. I hibernated in Montana for over nine years and had no idea what current casinos floors looked like. But I do now. There is a whole new generation of vulturable line games out there. They are worth fairly good money if you know how to work it right. That means hanging around the casino in the busy hours picking off plays left by the ploppies.

The Riverwind in Norman, Oklahoma had abysmal video poker but had several vulturable line games. I stayed over night there so I worked the machines that night and the next morning before pulling out. I made a few hundred dollars. I only ran a $4200 wager on the card. This is what the sent me in the mail. My next trip though will be cheaper costwise. I won't make those dates but I'm sure they will send me another offer when this one expires.

Is it an average looking clientele at these places? The only Indian casinos I've been to are in Connecticut so that is a little different animal I think.

They dress like normal people and they gamble it up mostly on the video line games which are the big hit these days. I think Vegas execs would be jealous of the average daily earn of the machines in the Indian casinos. The Indian casinos I've been in this year are world class and the clientele blows lots of money.

The Riverwind Casino where I put up the comp shot is located on the interstate at norman, just south of Oklahoma City. The target market is the Oklahoma City metropolitan area. They don't have a monopoly on the business but they get most of it.

Winstar is on the Oklahoma border 80 miles north of the target market, Dallas/Fort Worth. It a very modern casino with all the amenities and it's the largest casino in the world. They have 7400 machines and it's a mile and a half under the roof from one end of the casino to the other.

[mickeycrimm]

Again, a claim of winning after supposedly playing "$4200" on an unidentified game, with no pictures, other than something any tourist would get for signing up for a slot club card. You DO realize that mickey as an ultra-experienced casino rat, do you not? And BTW, you do also know that a simple call into that casino with one or two of those numbers shown on those HUGE comps you "earned", will easily result in them giving out your real name. Correct? You continue to defeat yourself. Please stay off the sauce.

This is where Rob's ignorance really shows through although he tries to come off like he knows what he is talking about.. When you vulture games you don't sit on one machine. The $4200 in action represented somewhere around 35 to 40 plays on several different machines. Rob doesn't know how to work these short term advantages created by the ploppies but he represents himself as an expert in gaming. He's a laughing stock.

Explain to everyone what a short term advantage is, Rob. LOLOLOLOL! He can't do it because he is to ignorant.

[kewlJ]

This is where Rob's ignorance really shows through although he tries to come off like he knows what he is talking about.

Rob's ignorance shows through in just about everything he says. I am not talking about his obnoxiousness, which obviously also clearly comes through, I am speaking specifically of his ignorance on most subjects. For me, his comments on EV in the other thread, clearly demonstrates a guy that has no clue.

"It doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking".

[Rob.Singer]

You're just showing how you do nothing but make it up on the go. No casino AND ESPECIALLY NO INDIAN CASINO, cares if you put in $4200 worth of action on machine A, B, C, or any combination of all three....as long as you do it. And any walk-in from out of state would get that "exciting special" deal you showed simply for signing up for a card. Fess up--that's all you did, and you inserted that typical nonsense about "$4200 worth of vulturing, and I won a couple hundred for good measure and perception" just to sound important.

What you did in your response is dance around your BS because you realized ANYBODY would get that offer who's nothing more than a new sign-up.

Try harder next time.

[mickeycrimm]

Rob, name the casinos that will give you a room comp just for signing up for the card. I will certainly stop at them and get my free hotel stay. Wise up, dummass.

[pkspins]

In my experience that's not the kind of offer everyone gets.
I've done a few one time local type casino visits with my husband when we've been traveling together. He plays very little himself. I play more, probably a few thousand in coin in, and left either up a lot or out no more than a hundred or two.
He's never gotten free hotel rooms in the subsequent offers. One time he got a discount offer for a weeknight stay but that was it.
Whereas I routinely get offers like Mickey's or even better - free weekend stays with free play, concert tickets, free gifts aka junk, etc..

[dannyj]

In my experience that's not the kind of offer everyone gets.
I've done a few one time local type casino visits with my husband when we've been traveling together. He plays very little himself. I play more, probably a few thousand in coin in, and left either up a lot or out no more than a hundred or two.
He's never gotten free hotel rooms in the subsequent offers. One time he got a discount offer for a weeknight stay but that was it.
Whereas I routinely get offers like Mickey's or even better - free weekend stays with free play, concert tickets, free gifts aka junk, etc..

That is how it is with my wife and I. I play more coin in than she does, but my play is strictly VP. She plays 80 percent slots to 20 VP, and gets better free play and hotel offers.

[Alan Mendelson]

Unless you're a Seven Stars you might have a problem getting any room at Rincon. My friends who are Diamond and Seven Stars say the place is sold out just about every weekend.

[mickeycrimm]

Rob, if you will tell us a casino where we get a comped room for getting the card we could have a Vegas Casino Talk convention by all staying the same night for free. Which one should we go to?

[pkspins]

Unless you're a Seven Stars you might have a problem getting any room at Rincon. My friends who are Diamond and Seven Stars say the place is sold out just about every weekend.

My understanding from online reading is that Cherokee is similar - the TR properties in North Carolina - but I have never been or tried myself.
Then again I've read similar things about AC in the summer months, since they sell so many rooms to weekenders, yet there's been posters here who seem to live in TR rooms.

[redietz]

Unless you're a Seven Stars you might have a problem getting any room at Rincon. My friends who are Diamond and Seven Stars say the place is sold out just about every weekend.

My understanding from online reading is that Cherokee is similar - the TR properties in North Carolina - but I have never been or tried myself.
Then again I've read similar things about AC in the summer months, since they sell so many rooms to weekenders, yet there's been posters here who seem to live in TR rooms.

Cherokee is sold out most weekends, and the pricing is exorbitant for weekends, considering the rooms themselves. It's a lovely property and reminds me of Pechanga, but the rooms are pretty ordinary. I don't know how they handle their Seven Stars requests, but it is an interesting question. They may designate "sold out" as their standard response to weekend requests.