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Thread: Scouting Futures in Las Vegas

  1. #1
    For those of you who are interested in betting things such as to-win-conference odds, total wins for a season, to-win-Super-Bowl odds, and so on, here is a brief summary of hints and suggestions.

    First, some historical notes. Compared to 30 years ago, there are far fewer different sets of numbers to check. So instead of checking 20 to 25 different sets of numbers, consolidation and the proliferation of casinos teaming with "franchise books" such as William Hill have reduced the really required checklist of books to under a dozen. Second, downloading and using the sports apps for those books who have them available can shorten your need to actually hoof it from place to place. I still recommend hoofing it as a first option, however, for various and sundry reasons. Third, 30 years ago, limits on these wagers were spelled out publicly for the most part. If you were known to the books, you could negotiate your way around these limits, but it's nothing compared to the obfuscation today, when how much you can bet on a future may be tied to your card standing at a place like CET, for example.

    The first rule of thumb to get straight is that books under the same corporate aegis, such as CET, Boyd, or MGM, should all have the same numbers. I say "should" because very occasionally, someone goes to lunch who shouldn't or a glitch takes place and one property has a brief anomaly, but as a rule, all CET properties have the same numbers, all Boyd have the same numbers, and so on, so it is necessary to check just one property in each corporate family. Thus, it's important to understand which casinos are owned by each corporation. Simple enough, but important to know.

    Second, one shouldn't just blow into a sports book, grab the futures sheets in the racks, and leave. Those sheets are often dated with old, incorrect numbers. You can look at the board to get proper numbers, but futures often go through rotating panels, so one needs an eidetic memory or a lot of jotting in a notebook to get them all right. The easiest thing to do is request printouts of particular futures from a ticket writer. Now, someone requesting printouts is work and time for the clerks, so try to do this during dead hours at the books, not Saturday or Sunday during football season or in the hour before a mid-week prime time game.

    Next, understand that some books try to really avoid having outlier numbers, and are interested primarily is keeping all numbers in the middle of the bell curve. They want their hotel guests to play, but they don't want to be a destination for people actually shopping for the best numbers. I usually refer to these places as having "vanilla" numbers. Station casinos is a prime example. They rarely have a bargain or long shot better than anywhere else. Very occasionally, one might find a particular good number, like odds to-win-the-MAC or something, but you're not going to find some great Super Bowl long shot at Stations.

    I'm going to list the must-check places. In years past, I've given specific parking recommendations and sequences of where to check in what order, but with the advent of parking fees at various casinos, it's up to the line shopper to figure out his/her individual status at the casinos and design a parking sequence that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

    Must checks with idiosyncratic or generous numbers include Wynn, WestGate, an MGM property, a CET property, Cantor, and William Hill. Cantor and William Hill are companies with books in myriad properties as franchises. The flagship Cantor would probably be considered at the Venetian, but I recommend checking the Palms Cantor due to ease of parking and quick access. The flagship William Hill is downtown at the Plaza, and I recommend checking there. Caesars is considered the flagship of CET, and MGM would be considered the flagship of MGM (my apologies to Bellagio and Mirage). Flagship properties can answer questions better than satellite properties, in general, and they would be who you would speak to regarding higher limits.

    If you want to give some business to independents who probably won't have the super outlier numbers but aren't bad and could use the action, if their numbers match the best, I would also check Treasure Island and the Golden Nugget. You can pair the Nugget check with the William Hill at the Plaza downtown. Don't be lazy. Although Stations and Boyd aren't on this must check list, if you're wandering by one, as you would be if you are downtown (El Cortez is Stations), grab the numbers. Or if you're at the Palms to check Cantor, you may as well walk across the street to grab the Boyd numbers at the Gold Coast. You're unlikely to find something, but why not be thorough?

    That's about it. I promised several months ago, I'd get this summary posted, so here it is. If anyone has any particular questions, feel free to PM me, and I'll get back to you.
    Last edited by redietz; 09-24-2017 at 01:01 AM.

  2. #2
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Next, understand that some books try to really avoid having outlier numbers, and are interested primarily is keeping all numbers in the middle of the bell curve. They want their hotel guests to play, but they don't want to be a destination for people actually shopping for the best numbers. I usually refer to these places as having "vanilla" numbers. Station casinos is a prime example. They rarely have a bargain or long shot better than anywhere else. Very occasionally, one might find a particular good number, like odds to-win-the-MAC or something, but you're not going to find some great Super Bowl long shot at Stations.

    I'm going to list the must-check places. In years past, I've given specific parking recommendations and sequences of where to check in what order, but with the advent of parking fees at various casinos, it's up to the line shopper to figure out his/her individual status at the casinos and design a parking sequence that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

    That's about it. I promised several months ago, I'd get this summary posted, so here it is. If anyone has any particular questions, feel free to PM me, and I'll get back to you.
    This is crazy. Books don't have bad lines because they won't want professional bettors and are worried about their hotel business. Not because bad lines just mean lost money when the sharps pick off the value side?

    "design a parking sequence".

    And what a summary it is ..folks ! sports book under same name but different properties have the SAME LINES !!!!
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  3. #3
    These summaries were originally written when Alan Mendelson owned this site. As such, before the incursion by so many brilliant scholars, they were written so recreational gamblers could easily understand them. It's not evident to everyone that the lines at Caesars Palace and the Flamingo will be identical. When sheets are printed for some properties, they print the individual property name at the top of the sheets, not the company name.

    I get a kick out of the term "sharps." And "value lines." Nothing like some meaningless jargon so you sound as if you know something beyond the ken of the "squares."

    Old joke:

    How do you know you're a "sharp?"
    Because you're sharp enough to know it.

    I await the definition of "value line" with bated breath.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    For those of you who are interested in betting things such as to-win-conference odds, total wins for a season, to-win-Super-Bowl odds, and so on, here is a brief summary of hints and suggestions.

    First, some historical notes. Compared to 30 years ago, there are far fewer different sets of numbers to check. So instead of checking 20 to 25 different sets of numbers, consolidation and the proliferation of casinos teaming with "franchise books" such as William Hill have reduced the really required checklist of books to under a dozen. Second, downloading and using the sports apps for those books who have them available can shorten your need to actually hoof it from place to place. I still recommend hoofing it as a first option, however, for various and sundry reasons. Third, 30 years ago, limits on these wagers were spelled out publicly for the most part. If you were known to the books, you could negotiate your way around these limits, but it's nothing compared to the obfuscation today, when how much you can bet on a future may be tied to your card standing at a place like CET, for example.

    The first rule of thumb to get straight is that books under the same corporate aegis, such as CET, Boyd, or MGM, should all have the same numbers. I say "should" because very occasionally, someone goes to lunch who shouldn't or a glitch takes place and one property has a brief anomaly, but as a rule, all CET properties have the same numbers, all Boyd have the same numbers, and so on, so it is necessary to check just one property in each corporate family. Thus, it's important to understand which casinos are owned by each corporation. Simple enough, but important to know.

    Second, one shouldn't just blow into a sports book, grab the futures sheets in the racks, and leave. Those sheets are often dated with old, incorrect numbers. You can look at the board to get proper numbers, but futures often go through rotating panels, so one needs an eidetic memory or a lot of jotting in a notebook to get them all right. The easiest thing to do is request printouts of particular futures from a ticket writer. Now, someone requesting printouts is work and time for the clerks, so try to do this during dead hours at the books, not Saturday or Sunday during football season or in the hour before a mid-week prime time game.

    Next, understand that some books try to really avoid having outlier numbers, and are interested primarily is keeping all numbers in the middle of the bell curve. They want their hotel guests to play, but they don't want to be a destination for people actually shopping for the best numbers. I usually refer to these places as having "vanilla" numbers. Station casinos is a prime example. They rarely have a bargain or long shot better than anywhere else. Very occasionally, one might find a particular good number, like odds to-win-the-MAC or something, but you're not going to find some great Super Bowl long shot at Stations.

    I'm going to list the must-check places. In years past, I've given specific parking recommendations and sequences of where to check in what order, but with the advent of parking fees at various casinos, it's up to the line shopper to figure out his/her individual status at the casinos and design a parking sequence that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

    Must checks with idiosyncratic or generous numbers include Wynn, WestGate, an MGM property, a CET property, Cantor, and William Hill. Cantor and William Hill are companies with books in myriad properties as franchises. The flagship Cantor would probably be considered at the Venetian, but I recommend checking the Palms Cantor due to ease of parking and quick access. The flagship William Hill is downtown at the Plaza, and I recommend checking there. Caesars is considered the flagship of CET, and MGM would be considered the flagship of MGM (my apologies to Bellagio and Mirage). Flagship properties can answer questions better than satellite properties, in general, and they would be who you would speak to regarding higher limits.

    If you want to give some business to independents who probably won't have the super outlier numbers but aren't bad and could use the action, if their numbers match the best, I would also check Treasure Island and the Golden Nugget. You can pair the Nugget check with the William Hill at the Plaza downtown. Don't be lazy. Although Stations and Boyd aren't on this must check list, if you're wandering by one, as you would be if you are downtown (El Cortez is Stations), grab the numbers. Or if you're at the Palms to check Cantor, you may as well walk across the street to grab the Boyd numbers at the Gold Coast. You're unlikely to find something, but why not be thorough?

    That's about it. I promised several months ago, I'd get this summary posted, so here it is. If anyone has any particular questions, feel free to PM me, and I'll get back to you.
    Do you have at least 20 million liquid is my question. If not then you really shouldn’t post shit online about sports betting.

    More make believe

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    These summaries were originally written when Alan Mendelson owned this site. As such, before the incursion by so many brilliant scholars, they were written so recreational gamblers could easily understand them. It's not evident to everyone that the lines at Caesars Palace and the Flamingo will be identical. When sheets are printed for some properties, they print the individual property name at the top of the sheets, not the company name.

    I get a kick out of the term "sharps." And "value lines." Nothing like some meaningless jargon so you sound as if you know something beyond the ken of the "squares."

    Old joke:

    How do you know you're a "sharp?"
    Because you're sharp enough to know it.

    I await the definition of "value line" with bated breath.
    Fair enough that you wrote this for Alan's site.

    Value line, +EV, whatever you wish to call it. Everyone else knows what I mean.

    Redietz can never criticize on substance. He has been caught ridiculing terminology used to well known successful sports bettors. Clowntastic.

    Pick'em contest master.

    You've been called out so many times.

    Embarrassing.

    The fact that a man can have such little shame.

    You are another version of Kewl.

    You don't even seem to grasp a line can have value.

    You can never win an argument on substance because frankly you don't understand cash betting and the concept of a line having value.

    A grown man taking picture posing with another man's car then lacking in shame to post it on the internet as a brag. (Witness the picture in my profile pic)

    Yet you claim you handicap all this stuff down to the spread.

    It makes no sense unless you're simply lacking in comprehension of that much.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  6. #6
    Well a pic with his moped is probably out of the question. So I'll give him a pass on that...lol
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    These summaries were originally written when Alan Mendelson owned this site. As such, before the incursion by so many brilliant scholars, they were written so recreational gamblers could easily understand them. It's not evident to everyone that the lines at Caesars Palace and the Flamingo will be identical. When sheets are printed for some properties, they print the individual property name at the top of the sheets, not the company name.

    I get a kick out of the term "sharps." And "value lines." Nothing like some meaningless jargon so you sound as if you know something beyond the ken of the "squares."

    Old joke:

    How do you know you're a "sharp?"
    Because you're sharp enough to know it.

    I await the definition of "value line" with bated breath.
    Fair enough that you wrote this for Alan's site.

    Value line, +EV, whatever you wish to call it. Everyone else knows what I mean.

    Redietz can never criticize on substance. He has been caught ridiculing terminology used to well known successful sports bettors. Clowntastic.

    Pick'em contest master.

    You've been called out so many times.

    Embarrassing.

    The fact that a man can have such little shame.

    You are another version of Kewl.

    You don't even seem to grasp a line can have value.

    You can never win an argument on substance because frankly you don't understand cash betting and the concept of a line having value.

    A grown man taking picture posing with another man's car then lacking in shame to post it on the internet as a brag. (Witness the picture in my profile pic)

    Yet you claim you handicap all this stuff down to the spread.

    It makes no sense unless you're simply lacking in comprehension of that much.

    LOL on many of the above.

    First, the only reason you know it's not my car is that I said it. I am particularly tickled by the line about posing with another man's car. If you'll notice, I was posing next to the plate, which I found really funny. That was the point of the pic. Now, about posing with another man's car. That car was customized. Unlike most vehicles, the customization actually reduces the resale value of limited-edition Lamborghinis, but it does make it unique. Here's the thing -- if posing with another man's car is a bad thing, many, many people did a bad thing as that car was featured on the splash panel of the Playboy website for a long time. The Playboy mansion requested a shoot with the vehicle, so Gary loaned it to the mansion for the photo shoot. Many wealthy people were posing with that vehicle throughout the day of the shoot. The car is uniquely customized and considered a work of art.

    Second, the ATS stuff posted above is sheer nonsense. The last five years of the publication of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" I was the top college profit person (ATS) three of the five. And over 30 years of two ATS games every week of every football season, I either had the best or second-best record in The Wise Guys Contest. Account, ATS means "against the spread," in case that eludes you. Why do you keep blatantly lying about this? It's unbecoming to tell lies.

    You still have no definition of "value line." Let's hear it, genius. Billy Walters, all 200 million of him, uses the word value in his book, but never the phrase "value line." I wonder why.

    Anonymous wannabees playing pretend. I am really looking forward to that definition of "value line."

    And here's the funny kicker. I can use the Lambo any time I like. And I'm not paying insurance on it. Talk about "AP plays!"

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    These summaries were originally written when Alan Mendelson owned this site. As such, before the incursion by so many brilliant scholars, they were written so recreational gamblers could easily understand them. It's not evident to everyone that the lines at Caesars Palace and the Flamingo will be identical. When sheets are printed for some properties, they print the individual property name at the top of the sheets, not the company name.

    I get a kick out of the term "sharps." And "value lines." Nothing like some meaningless jargon so you sound as if you know something beyond the ken of the "squares."

    Old joke:

    How do you know you're a "sharp?"
    Because you're sharp enough to know it.

    I await the definition of "value line" with bated breath.
    Fair enough that you wrote this for Alan's site.

    Value line, +EV, whatever you wish to call it. Everyone else knows what I mean.

    Redietz can never criticize on substance. He has been caught ridiculing terminology used to well known successful sports bettors. Clowntastic.

    Pick'em contest master.

    You've been called out so many times.

    Embarrassing.

    The fact that a man can have such little shame.

    You are another version of Kewl.

    You don't even seem to grasp a line can have value.

    You can never win an argument on substance because frankly you don't understand cash betting and the concept of a line having value.

    A grown man taking picture posing with another man's car then lacking in shame to post it on the internet as a brag. (Witness the picture in my profile pic)

    Yet you claim you handicap all this stuff down to the spread.

    It makes no sense unless you're simply lacking in comprehension of that much.

    LOL on many of the above.

    First, the only reason you know it's not my car is that I said it. I am particularly tickled by the line about posing with another man's car. If you'll notice, I was posing next to the plate, which I found really funny. That was the point of the pic. Now, about posing with another man's car. That car was customized. Unlike most vehicles, the customization actually reduces the resale value of limited-edition Lamborghinis, but it does make it unique. Here's the thing -- if posing with another man's car is a bad thing, many, many people did a bad thing as that car was featured on the splash panel of the Playboy website for a long time. The Playboy mansion requested a shoot with the vehicle, so Gary loaned it to the mansion for the photo shoot. Many wealthy people were posing with that vehicle throughout the day of the shoot. The car is uniquely customized and considered a work of art.

    Second, the ATS stuff posted above is sheer nonsense. The last five years of the publication of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" I was the top college profit person (ATS) three of the five. And over 30 years of two ATS games every week of every football season, I either had the best or second-best record in The Wise Guys Contest. Account, ATS means "against the spread," in case that eludes you. Why do you keep blatantly lying about this? It's unbecoming to tell lies.

    You still have no definition of "value line." Let's hear it, genius. Billy Walters, all 200 million of him, uses the word value in his book, but never the phrase "value line." I wonder why.

    Anonymous wannabees playing pretend. I am really looking forward to that definition of "value line."

    And here's the funny kicker. I can use the Lambo any time I like. And I'm not paying insurance on it. Talk about "AP plays!"
    Ok you obviously don’t have 20 million. So how about 5 million ? A man of your experience should have that in the couch cushions of your McMansion. Running with Billy and the mob.

    By the way to real AP play for the lambo is to buy it write it off then let an exotic car dealership rent it out and make the difference. Not that you ever had to deal with the problems of mountains of cash piles that needed to be invested. I guess that’s only the problem us bonus hustlers have experience in

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    Fair enough that you wrote this for Alan's site.

    Value line, +EV, whatever you wish to call it. Everyone else knows what I mean.

    Redietz can never criticize on substance. He has been caught ridiculing terminology used to well known successful sports bettors. Clowntastic.

    Pick'em contest master.

    You've been called out so many times.

    Embarrassing.

    The fact that a man can have such little shame.

    You are another version of Kewl.

    You don't even seem to grasp a line can have value.

    You can never win an argument on substance because frankly you don't understand cash betting and the concept of a line having value.

    A grown man taking picture posing with another man's car then lacking in shame to post it on the internet as a brag. (Witness the picture in my profile pic)

    Yet you claim you handicap all this stuff down to the spread.

    It makes no sense unless you're simply lacking in comprehension of that much.

    LOL on many of the above.

    First, the only reason you know it's not my car is that I said it. I am particularly tickled by the line about posing with another man's car. If you'll notice, I was posing next to the plate, which I found really funny. That was the point of the pic. Now, about posing with another man's car. That car was customized. Unlike most vehicles, the customization actually reduces the resale value of limited-edition Lamborghinis, but it does make it unique. Here's the thing -- if posing with another man's car is a bad thing, many, many people did a bad thing as that car was featured on the splash panel of the Playboy website for a long time. The Playboy mansion requested a shoot with the vehicle, so Gary loaned it to the mansion for the photo shoot. Many wealthy people were posing with that vehicle throughout the day of the shoot. The car is uniquely customized and considered a work of art.

    Second, the ATS stuff posted above is sheer nonsense. The last five years of the publication of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" I was the top college profit person (ATS) three of the five. And over 30 years of two ATS games every week of every football season, I either had the best or second-best record in The Wise Guys Contest. Account, ATS means "against the spread," in case that eludes you. Why do you keep blatantly lying about this? It's unbecoming to tell lies.

    You still have no definition of "value line." Let's hear it, genius. Billy Walters, all 200 million of him, uses the word value in his book, but never the phrase "value line." I wonder why.

    Anonymous wannabees playing pretend. I am really looking forward to that definition of "value line."

    And here's the funny kicker. I can use the Lambo any time I like. And I'm not paying insurance on it. Talk about "AP plays!"
    Ok you obviously don’t have 20 million. So how about 5 million ? A man of your experience should have that in the couch cushions of your McMansion. Running with Billy and the mob.

    By the way to real AP play for the lambo is to buy it write it off then let an exotic car dealership rent it out and make the difference. Not that you ever had to deal with the problems of mountains of cash piles that needed to be invested. I guess that’s only the problem us bonus hustlers have experience in
    I’m going to tell you why guys like Red and most of these frauds have nothing. It’s because 99.9 percent of them are Just degenerate gamblers who lack discipline. They are a dime a dozen throughout the gambling world. From poker to blackjack to slots and sports betting. Most of these guys are just complete Degenerate gamblers who know just enough to stay in the game.


    I’m sure Red has made an ok living but it’s doubtful that he has kept anything significant over the years. Just another statistic, and cautionary tale of degeneracy. Reduced to making up fairytales on these boards like fraudJ. Yawn

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    These summaries were originally written when Alan Mendelson owned this site. As such, before the incursion by so many brilliant scholars, they were written so recreational gamblers could easily understand them. It's not evident to everyone that the lines at Caesars Palace and the Flamingo will be identical. When sheets are printed for some properties, they print the individual property name at the top of the sheets, not the company name.

    I get a kick out of the term "sharps." And "value lines." Nothing like some meaningless jargon so you sound as if you know something beyond the ken of the "squares."

    Old joke:

    How do you know you're a "sharp?"
    Because you're sharp enough to know it.

    I await the definition of "value line" with bated breath.
    Fair enough that you wrote this for Alan's site.

    Value line, +EV, whatever you wish to call it. Everyone else knows what I mean.

    Redietz can never criticize on substance. He has been caught ridiculing terminology used to well known successful sports bettors. Clowntastic.

    Pick'em contest master.

    You've been called out so many times.

    Embarrassing.

    The fact that a man can have such little shame.

    You are another version of Kewl.

    You don't even seem to grasp a line can have value.

    You can never win an argument on substance because frankly you don't understand cash betting and the concept of a line having value.

    A grown man taking picture posing with another man's car then lacking in shame to post it on the internet as a brag. (Witness the picture in my profile pic)

    Yet you claim you handicap all this stuff down to the spread.

    It makes no sense unless you're simply lacking in comprehension of that much.

    LOL on many of the above.

    First, the only reason you know it's not my car is that I said it. I am particularly tickled by the line about posing with another man's car. If you'll notice, I was posing next to the plate, which I found really funny. That was the point of the pic. Now, about posing with another man's car. That car was customized. Unlike most vehicles, the customization actually reduces the resale value of limited-edition Lamborghinis, but it does make it unique. Here's the thing -- if posing with another man's car is a bad thing, many, many people did a bad thing as that car was featured on the splash panel of the Playboy website for a long time. The Playboy mansion requested a shoot with the vehicle, so Gary loaned it to the mansion for the photo shoot. Many wealthy people were posing with that vehicle throughout the day of the shoot. The car is uniquely customized and considered a work of art.

    Second, the ATS stuff posted above is sheer nonsense. The last five years of the publication of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" I was the top college profit person (ATS) three of the five. And over 30 years of two ATS games every week of every football season, I either had the best or second-best record in The Wise Guys Contest. Account, ATS means "against the spread," in case that eludes you. Why do you keep blatantly lying about this? It's unbecoming to tell lies.

    You still have no definition of "value line." Let's hear it, genius. Billy Walters, all 200 million of him, uses the word value in his book, but never the phrase "value line." I wonder why.

    Anonymous wannabees playing pretend. I am really looking forward to that definition of "value line."

    And here's the funny kicker. I can use the Lambo any time I like. And I'm not paying insurance on it. Talk about "AP plays!"
    Don't give a fuck about lambos lol. Taking a picture with another man's car. lol. My car payment is 2x your property tax. lol.

    Give us a break bro.

    Doesn't matter if Billy doesn't use value line. I didn't really think hard for the best term. You will ridicule +EV line or most anything else. In fact I think you would literally ridicule any phrase that addresses the concept because the concepts simply go over your head.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  11. #11
    billy waters
    billy waters
    billy waters

    I'm doing an impression. Anyone want to guess who?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Second, one shouldn't just blow into a sports book, grab the futures sheets in the racks, and leave. Those sheets are often dated with old, incorrect numbers. You can look at the board to get proper numbers, but futures often go through rotating panels, so one needs an eidetic memory or a lot of jotting in a notebook to get them all right. The easiest thing to do is request printouts of particular futures from a ticket writer. Now, someone requesting printouts is work and time for the clerks, so try to do this during dead hours at the books, not Saturday or Sunday during football season or in the hour before a mid-week prime time game.
    I would just whip out my iphone 13 and take pics as the the panels rotate. Quick and easy.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    These summaries were originally written when Alan Mendelson owned this site. As such, before the incursion by so many brilliant scholars, they were written so recreational gamblers could easily understand them. It's not evident to everyone that the lines at Caesars Palace and the Flamingo will be identical. When sheets are printed for some properties, they print the individual property name at the top of the sheets, not the company name.

    I get a kick out of the term "sharps." And "value lines." Nothing like some meaningless jargon so you sound as if you know something beyond the ken of the "squares."

    Old joke:

    How do you know you're a "sharp?"
    Because you're sharp enough to know it.

    I await the definition of "value line" with bated breath.
    VALUE LINE BETTING and Posting Picks with ample time for anyone to bet it themselves.
    Posted at 8:41am this morning...

    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I hate betting on Lose-A-Peg but the Coyotes cost me 200 dollars in cash and about 5000 in coulda, woulda, shoulda.
    Anyways, I'll take the Jets over the Yotes giving up the Puckline for +185 or better today on a straight bet.
    I like the value.

    The Penguins scare me.
    They are one of the few teams that could lose to the Sharks lol.
    Got to take them with the Puck Line though.
    I'm a believer in the Rangers and they are a small dog on the Money Line so that's nice.
    I like the Kings Puck Line over the Flyers today since Philly is Very Erratic and on a back-to-back.
    Sabres on the same back-to-back and the Leafs owe me money so take the Leafs with the Puck Line.
    You can't bet against the Knights, but that game isn't going to be anything easy.
    I'd take the Knights out of Principle, but I probably just enjoy watching the game with no action on it.

    I'm not sure exactly how I'm gonna bet them.
    Bet them how you like.
    Jets Puck Line will be where I put most of my money for the day.
    Since that's an earlier game it gives me time to get Hot Sucker and bet more in the evening.
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