Gambling With An Edge 5 Oct 2017

[kewlJ]

Fact check: Gambling With An Edge on YouTube has a limited audience. Most shows have fewer than 800 views. But Rob Singer's videos with me on YouTube have thousands of views and several have 8,000 or more views.

Alan didn't the youtube link just appear yesterday or recently? Give it a few days before you make that assessment. That is like judging a football game by the first minute of play.

I didn't even know you could link to the show via youtube. I usually link through the radio stations website, the GWAE website or Richard Munchkin's website. If you are trying to honestly determine the audience of GWAE, you have to add all these, plus probably some other possibilities I am not aware of together.

But of course in the true Alan Mendelson way, you are NOT trying to honestly determine the audience, you are just doing the dishonest "shyster" journalist thing that you do of manipulating data. Some journalist you are, Alan.

From now on, Alan, never again refer to yourself as a journalist. That is not fair to real journalist. From now on refer to yourself as a "shyster" manipulating everything, data, statements, every piece of information, to fit his own (usually wrong) narrative.

Yeah I know... "Fuck off kewlj". Or maybe a "what's your real name?"....I am going to sue you because I don't like your opinion on an anonymous message board.

[redietz]

I don't understand the relevance of number of views. Porn has more views than anything. Porn gets more visitors than Netflix, Amazon, and Twitter combined. And this means what?

[FABismonte]

Hi Mickey:

I listened to your interview this morning and enjoyed it. I appreciate you being realistic about your gambling goals and the niche you have in Montana bar gambling.

FAB

[kewlJ]

I don't understand the relevance of number of views. Porn has more views than anything. Porn gets more visitors than Netflix, Amazon, and Twitter combined. And this means what?

Doesn't mean a damn thing. It was just first Rob and then Alan, trying to diminish Mickey's being on the show.

I just don't get the 3 or 4 guys on this site, who it seems their life in now all about belittling and putting AP's down. If APing isn't your thing and you enjoy your recreational gambling...fine. But every post by these guys has some negative or "put down" remark to or about AP's or advantage play. Belittling others is their freaking life.

It's just frustrating to me. This site is entitled Vegas - Casino - Talk. And while it is not an AP site, advantage play is a part of gambling experience and discussions. Yet, everything the AP's on this site say or discuss is met with challenges and attacks, and attempts to belittle us, including intentionally misstating things (lying) and manipulating almost everything to attempt that belittling.

I am sick of this, and just don't understand why the guy that runs the site would allow a site to just be that....3-4 guys attacking and belittling and challenging a handful of AP's and the AP's defending themselves. How is that useful to anyone?

[Ozzy]

You should be the poster child for why abortion isn`t always a bad option

Do you seriously think anyone here respects you or what you have to say?

Bill calls it like it is, and adds comedic value here...your just a miserable old fuck.

[bocce ball]

But GWAE has been on air weekly for like 15 years now. They must be meeting the expectations and audience goals of the station or they wouldn't be on air for 15 years.

The show launched in 2011 with Bob Dancer and Frank Kneeland, on KLAV 1230 AM radio. At some point, KLAV dropped the show, which then continued as a podcast only. Radio show sponsors included M Resort, Silverton, and possibly Dotty's, but recently I think the only sponsors have been South Point and video poker dot com.

So I don't see much indication of the show reaching a wide audience, or being financially lucrative. Alan is absolutely correct IMO that the show would be more popular with a broader focus, but personally I enjoy it as is.

[kewlJ]

I keep telling myself I am not going to participate here. What value is there in doing so? A complete troll is allowed to attack another member's wife that passed away from cancer. That is just beyond sick!!! And not putting a stop to that is just wrong (DAN!).

But I am not going to let these hateful, bitter old dudes, diminish Mickey's appearance and accomplishments. Mickey's story is a good story. It is a story of success! And he did himself proud. It doesn't matter if Mickey makes 50 grand a year or 25 grand a year or 200 grand a year. Mickey went from homeless and broke, to earning a decent living and turning his life around. It was a success story before he gave up drinking and that is just the cherry on top! Good for you mickey!

Just imagine some long-term homeless guy in NYC or another big city, goes to the library day after day and self teaches himself about computer programming and secures a job as a computer programmer, making 30-40 grand and pulls himself out of homelessness. That is a great story. A success story!

And then some condescending prick comes along and tries to belittle these accomplishments by judging him and saying "he's only making 30 grand (or 40 grand or 50 grand). I felt so bad I almost wanted to send him a check". You judgmental, condescending prick Blackhole.

And BTW, if you feel bad for someone not as well off as you and the standard you think you have a right to set, the DO send some of the less fortunate a check, or better yet, donate your time and effort to helping them improve their lives. Don't just use the idle talk of sending a check as a way to put someone down and elevate yourself. That is fucked up dude!

[kewlJ]

But GWAE has been on air weekly for like 15 years now. They must be meeting the expectations and audience goals of the station or they wouldn't be on air for 15 years.

The show launched in 2011 with Bob Dancer and Frank Kneeland, on KLAV 1230 AM radio. At some point, KLAV dropped the show, which then continued as a podcast only. Radio show sponsors included M Resort, Silverton, and possibly Dotty's, but recently I think the only sponsors have been South Point and video poker dot com.

So I don't see much indication of the show reaching a wide audience, or being financially lucrative. Alan is absolutely correct IMO that the show would be more popular with a broader focus, but personally I enjoy it as is.

Ok, I stand corrected, my bad. I thought the show was on longer than that. I moved to Vegas in 2009 and thought the show was on then. However, that doesn't change the notion that it must be meeting whatever goals either the station or sponsors are looking for. Otherwise they would find something else, car repair, cooking, whatever for that time slot.

No one is saying the show reaches a wide audience. It is a niche topic! Just as gambling and specifically AP websites don't appeal to a wide audience. But I can tell you as a member of a number of AP and gambling related websites, over the years, every one of those sites periodically posts a link to GWAE. maybe not weekly, but periodically, when someone of interest and value to this specific community is a guest. And members of that site and the AP/gambling community all over the world listen somewhat regularly. Maybe not every week. I usually don't think about it every week, unless someone posts a "heads up". But when I do, I might listen to 2 or 3 pod casts in a row that interest and/or are beneficial to me.

And now I am out> To quote my dear friend Normy, "I don't have time for this. I have work to do". (I know that is a reference only one or two will get...my apologies).

[bocce ball]

By the way, here's a link to Bob Dancer's 2011 column introducing the show:

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...-with-an-edge/

But I am not going to let these hateful, bitter old dudes, diminish Mickey's appearance and accomplishments.

One of the reasons I support allowing them to post freely is because this is a gambling forum, and they represent the majority of gamblers: angry, bitter, and overconfident. Gamblers as a group are very flawed people. But as I look through the posts above, every person has minimally shown some form of grudging respect for Mickey's accomplishments, so I hope he takes comfort from that.

[MisterV]

Were I a mod, I'd not ban those who are anti-AP, they're entitled to voice their opinion.

In fact, an AP who is confident in his abilities would simply smirk and then think "The more folks who think like that, the better I can ply my craft."

The last thing MC or any other AP wants is for AP to become popular in the public domain: look what notoriety did to card counting.

Let the nabobs of negativity continue to natter away, "It don't mean nothin'."

[Biloxi Bill]

Mickey I was very impressed with your eloquence. I don't think I heard even one uhh??

I think it was an interesting program from three perspectives:

1. You explaining your gambling in Montana which to be frank did not impress the hosts. As they pointed out, it's a small amount of money from a Vegas perspective.

2. Your history which is a colorful story. You make a good story for AA.

3. You as a human being. It seemed to me that this was the most interesting part. Remember when Readers Digest had a section called The Most Interesting Person I Ever Met? That could be you.

Notice the way Mr. Bojangles appears to pay Mickey a compliment while also slyly laced with sarcasm and subtle putdowns......man,this slimy dude can tap dance with the best of them....sort of a gift

[Alan Mendelson]

I think Mickey did well on the show. I'm just pointing out it has a small audience. It's on a local AM radio station in Vegas to begin with. It's subject matter is limited.

There are other radio stations in bigger cities that also have gambling shows.

[Alan Mendelson]

Mickey I was very impressed with your eloquence. I don't think I heard even one uhh??

I think it was an interesting program from three perspectives:

1. You explaining your gambling in Montana which to be frank did not impress the hosts. As they pointed out, it's a small amount of money from a Vegas perspective.

2. Your history which is a colorful story. You make a good story for AA.

3. You as a human being. It seemed to me that this was the most interesting part. Remember when Readers Digest had a section called The Most Interesting Person I Ever Met? That could be you.

Notice the way Mr. Bojangles appears to pay Mickey a compliment while also slyly laced with sarcasm and subtle putdowns......man,this slimy dude can tap dance with the best of them....sort of a gift

He didn't cure cancer.

[dannyj]

Good Job Mickey!

[bocce ball]

He didn't cure cancer.

To be fair, that may only be because he hasn't tried.

For those who care, this was Bob's 2015 announcement when the show was removed from the AM radio station:

https://lasvegasadvisor.com/gambling...change-coming/

The station converted to all-sports, and currently Spanish-language. Gambling with an Edge moved to an internet radio station, which is now defunct, so apparently there's no longer any station affiliation, nor a live broadcast. But Bob wrote that fewer than 5% of the audience listened live, so I guess he figures people are able to find the show via the web site, or iTunes, or YouTube.

[mickeycrimm]

I think Mickey did well on the show. I'm just pointing out it has a small audience. It's on a local AM radio station in Vegas to begin with. It's subject matter is limited. There are other radio stations in bigger cities that also have gambling shows.

GWAE is not and never will be a radio show for a mass audience. There is a big clue to that in the name "Gambling With An Edge." How many people do that? The show is about successful gamblers, their stories, issues and concerns. That's small market. I enjoy the podcasts because I get to listen to the stories, issues and concerns of other professional gamblers that I've never met. It's fascinating and educational to me. If they ever revamp the show to attract a larger audience it will probably ruin it.

[Alan Mendelson]

I just checked YouTube. Gambling With An Edge has been available on YouTube for more than four years. Look for yourselves.

Also look at the number of views, or in this case listens.

I don't make this stuff up.

[blackhole]

I’m not certain what crawled or was shoved in Kewlj's ass (whatever is left of it) that got his panties in a knot, but straight up he could go pound salt.

You left wing liberal snowflakes opinions are not all that matters.

[mickeycrimm]

After listening to the whole interview, I found Mickeys story sad, yet, want to give him credit for holding his nose against the grinding stone instead of quitting.

The two guys that interviewed him sounded disabled. If I’m not mistaken these three guys are allegedly veteran lifelong professional AP gamblers. If a non-gambler stumbled across this interview, there would be a good chance that person would have the same result (if it were possible) as being neutered against gambling. This interview should be played at GA meetings.

For all you members patting Mickey on the back, was just another example of how fucked up these gambling forums actually are. If that was a good example of being an AP, I’m really just lost for words.

It should have ended with a follow up about why you should finish school, and pursue some type of honest career. Being a hobo train hopping with serial killers before discovering AP’ing casinos, is a strong message that could help immature kids to keep their heads on straight.

I think Mickey should volunteer some of his time to speak at schools.

This whole thing was very, very, sad.

It's so sad that you feel so sad for someone that is very happy doing exactly what they want to do in life. Of course, I understand that a person of your affluence and VIP High Roller status in the casinos would think such a thing. It just goes to show that....no, hold on, let me think for a second....yeah, that's it!!!! I just thought of something!!! Your portrayal of yourself as an affluent VIP High Roller is an unsubstantiated claim. Yes, I believe I'm right here. It's an unsubstantiated claim.

BH, don't you think that in all fairness, since you claim to be an affluent VIP high roller, that you should substantiate that claim. After all, that's what you demand of others. It's only fair. So could you do us all a favor and substantiate the claim. Posting up something in the next day or two will work. You know how some people around here are about unsubstantiated claims. You wouldn't want to piss them off.

Thank you for your cooperation.

[mcap]

Myself enjoyed the interview sir. I liked the part where you talked about the slot machines.