I got involved in a thread at another forum where a slot designer / programmer, offered to answer any question about slots. He designs slots for land based casinos and another member who operates an online casino also contributed. Interesting to say the least.

I brought up AP’s who insist they beat certain slot machines in the long term, claiming to make a comfortable living doing this. I then gave him some examples of quotes.

His first response was Quote: “ Other than some well documented Russian guys that cracked the RNG of some older games, as far as I know there is no way to "Beat slots".. if there was, I would be rich!

To be honest I've never heard of Elliot Jacobson so I can't comment on him or anything he's said.”

I then linked him to Eliot Jacobson’s old AP Heat site where he directly discusses the AP advantage playing slots. I also followed with this comment to him Quote [I]“Being able to successfully Advantage Play certain slot games for long term profits could be considered beating slots. I'm rather surprised by your professional comment above. Are some programmers / designers that far out of the AP loop?

If you read the link above written by E.J., it would appear that AP concerns were considered often during programing.

Quote from E.J. "Over the years she has sent me numerous PAR sheets to ask for a second opinion on possible advantage play strategies."

He responds Quote: "Sorry... I get what you mean now. And no we don't really care about this type of AP as they're doing nothing wrong. Any game with progressive jackpots will reach a point where it is in your advantage to play... Of course you still have to win it. Some games even advertise when a progressive is over its average value which no doubt encourages AP in that respect.

They aren't beating the game."

The online casino operator says, Quote:
"It is not rocket science.

Jackpot hits and of course every single spin made then is going to get closer to the jackpot. Everybody can claim that after a few million spins on a slot the jackpot is going to get closer.

It can, of course, theoretically hit the next spin after the jackpot was hit, but statistically speaking that is not very likely.

They are not advantage players, they are just using statistics in my opinion."

The slot designer also adds Quote:
"Exactly - and the "must hit by" slots are purposely designed to get people to play them more the nearer they get... So whilst you might have a slight RTP advantage in the short term, you aren't going to pay your mortgage off because of it!"

Anyone here have any questions you would like me to ask him?