I keep guessing loser, too. You'll require a comma after guessing to call the other chap a loser. The Shack school of English?Originally Posted by jbjb
Keep guessing loser! :-)Originally Posted by Ozzy+1000 OneHitWonder nice to see someone other then myself call out Ibeatyouraces.Originally Posted by OneHitWonder
I don't mean to bring down the light-hearted , jovial spirit of this thread. However, I just had a horrifying thought.
Do you notice that Dan banned Rob just 2-3 days before the Vegas shooting? Now Dan did some checking around and tried to verify that the shooter never looked at this site (or PFA).
The shooter was so diabolical in his planning, though, i wouldn't put it past him to use a proxy ISP to look at this site.
Maybe Rob was a form of entertainment for the shooter which kept him from making the final decision to go over the edge? I take a banning by Dan much more seriously than Alan.
Not trying to troll at all; it simply doesn't interest me. Some of the timing coincidences look scary here, though.
I had a VERY hard time posting this. I wouldn't have done so if I didn't sincerely wonder about it.
EDIT: Actually posting this made me sick to my stomach, and I hope it isn't true. I'm still second-guessing myself as to whether I should have shared this awful possibility.
Last edited by Count Room; 10-06-2017 at 03:05 PM.
A proxy ISP to view the site? You don't have to log in to view the site.Originally Posted by Count Room
No, you don't need a proxy to view the site, but the site Admin can use ISP's to help verify who is looking at your site. People can use proxies to disguise that from site admins.Originally Posted by coach bellyA proxy ISP to view the site? You don't have to log in to view the site.Originally Posted by Count Room
Considering the shooter used cameras to detect oncoming law enforcement, it's not much of a stretch to believe he would want to disguise his web visits. He was very low key, an advantage video poker player.
What scares me the most here is that Mr. Paddock could have viewed this site using a proxy and Rob was a form of comic relief for him, helping to temporarily stave off violent impulses.
If law enforcement didn't find a smartphone, laptop, or other sort of internet connecting device in the shooter's hotel room or parked car, I would feel MUCH better about this awful possibility not being true.
Obviously no one had any idea what was to come in a couple days after Rob was banned. The coincidence is God-awful, though.
This Las Vegas Sun article deepens my concerns mentioned above: https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oc...leashes-a-ram/
"Stephen Paddock usually kept a cigar at hand, even though he didn't smoke. But he was quick to notice when somebody sat down beside him and lit up.
Then Paddock, a denizen of hazy casinos, would take out his cigar, light it and carefully aim its smoke back into the faces of those whose puffing annoyed him.
"He was the king of microaggression," said his brother, Eric."
Doesn't this sound exactly like the type of guy who would be entertained by Rob's antics?
I assume the FBI has contacted Dan and other admins as part of their investigation to see whether Paddock visited / posted here.
If he did post or lurk, and was a fan of Singer, perhaps Singer being banned incensed him.
Not likely, but who knows what thoughts percolated in his noggin?
Last edited by MisterV; 10-06-2017 at 06:12 PM.
What, Me Worry?
Count Room, maybe it would alleviate your concern to know that when not playing AP VP, he was probably spending a lot of time at home with his hot Filipina girlfriend.
Originally Posted by Count RoomNo, you don't need a proxy to view the site, but the site Admin can use ISP's to help verify who is looking at your site. People can use proxies to disguise that from site admins.Originally Posted by coach bellyA proxy ISP to view the site? You don't have to log in to view the site.Originally Posted by Count Room
Considering the shooter used cameras to detect oncoming law enforcement, it's not much of a stretch to believe he would want to disguise his web visits. He was very low key, an advantage video poker player.
What scares me the most here is that Mr. Paddock could have viewed this site using a proxy and Rob was a form of comic relief for him, helping to temporarily stave off violent impulses.
I don't know if this is really serious or an attempt at a bad joke. But Count Room if you honestly think there is any possibility that this is true, I urge you to contact the FBI.
I'm not dismissing the possibility, frankly, because in this crazy world it seems anything is possible. There are so many wild things connected to the shooting that many other wild things could be linked to it.
We still don't understand how a 64 year old, video poker playing, real estate investor millionaire did this ALL by himself and WITHOUT a known motive. So, any little piece of the puzzle might help to put it all together.
Again, I urge you to contact the FBI.
But with that said, I'm not sure anyone can track the ISP of a "viewer" without that viewer being a registered member of the website community. I have thousands and thousands of people who come to my website and using Google Analytics as well as the web tracking tools on my web server I don't see anything that allows me to see the ISPs of "viewers."
When I ran this forum I didn't see anything that allowed me to see the ISPs of "viewers." If Dan has some other technology or if the FBI does, then certainly you should be calling the FBI.
I have no idea, but I did go out for a bit and suddenly realized some other interesting parallels between Rob and Mr. Paddock:Originally Posted by tableplay
--They are almost exactly the same age (63/64'ish)
--They both worked for defense contractors : Paddock worked for Northrop Grumman, not sure about Rob, might have been the same company! Or maybe Lockheed?
--Paddock worked for the IRS while Rob has a relative who worked there. Also, IRS matters have been discussed EXTENSIVELY here
--They both seem to like guns
--They both like high-stakes VP
--They both seem to dislike government and taxation
All in all, I could see where Mr. Paddock could build a sense of relatability with Rob on a personal level even if Mr. Paddock did not follow Rob's VP strategies ($1 starting stakes generally too low for Paddock to do 5 & 6 denomination Martingales)
Combine the above with the coincidence of Rob's banning being just two days before the shooting, it raises some flags for me
One last note: In the Vegas Sun article I posted above, Mr. Paddock insisted that he pay cash for drinks at Starbucks instead of using casino points as his girlfriend suggested. Rob has always talked about paying cash for things like this instead of chasing comps. (This is admittedly a more minor parallel than the others.)
It wouldn't make any sense for me to go to the FBI. Everything I know is right here. The question is whether Paddock was a regular reader or fan of Rob's (at least on a personal level if not sharing the same VP play strategies).Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Impossible for me to know this as simply a registered user of this site.
Of course you should contact the FBI. You won't get in trouble so why hesitate. I can't speak for Dan, but I am close to 100% sure that unless Paddock was a registered user of the forum there is no way to detect if Paddock visited here.
Look be realistic. The FBI needs everyone's help. It doesn't hurt to provide this. At worst, someone will say "thank you for calling."
Also, I think you have found some parallels that are very interesting.
Another reason for YOU to contact the FBI is that I am sure the FBI is not monitoring this forum.
I think Dan already mentioned on PFA that he cross-checked a couple of old emails and came up with nothing. If you believe that there is no way to detect Paddock visiting here using a proxy ISP, there's really no sense in my calling.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
If you think it won't hurt to call the FBI, why won't you do it? It was your idea, after all. I was simply saying my suspicions are heightened by a few too many coincidences. This could still be a dead end, anyway.
The obvious question here is: does Rob know this guy? I'm sending a text to Rob.
Dan should contact the FBI since I cannot give the FBI any access to the server for the forum.
I called the FBI a few days ago and suggested they contact some gambling board admins to see if they can determine whether Paddock had posted or lurked there.
They certainly would have his internet info by now, and could both check his viewing history and also give admins his internet addy to see if he registered and posted.
What, Me Worry?
Rob says he believes he met the guy once about ten years ago. They had a discussion about being bothered by smoking and talked about video poker. It was a one time meeting.
From Washington Post:Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
The FBI joined with the Las Vegas police pleaded for information, launching a public information campaign — using the slogan “Know Something, Say Something” — seeking information about Paddock.
“We are looking at every aspect from birth to death,” Las Vegas PD undersheriff Kevin McMahill said.
Rob needs to make some calls! Also, it would be interesting to know if Rob could tell whether or not Mr. Paddock knew Rob played VP for a living and read his writings online & off.
Wow. Even if it was just a one-time meeting with Rob personally, the odds of Paddock looking at this site in some fashion or other seem semi-decent.
This is as far as I can go with this matter.
Really?Originally Posted by Count Room
I really don't think it is all that fair to talk about Singer, since he is no longer here, but I see little evidence that Singer did anything but lose a good deal of whatever money he earned during his career in the business world.
Consistent with what I have been saying, no one is required to prove anything on an anonymous message board. It is up to each of us to decide who is credible or as I like to say, "who know what they are talking about and who is just talking". Singer's claims of making a million dollars, playing negative EV video poker are highly unlikely. Not impossible, but highly unlikely. It flies in the face of the mathematics involved.
In this very thread, arcimede$ stated that Rob "lost" his small apartment and was forced to live in a trailer park. Other's that have been around much longer than I, have said similar things, with the slight twist that he lives in his Winnebago in his daughter's driveway. I don't know, nor care, but based on what he said while I was here, these scenarios seem much more likely to me. In other words....If I was a betting man.....
And quite frankly, these scenarios would explain Singer's extreme bitterness and anger at the world and people that do have some success playing at casinos (AP's)
WOW ... I could only come to the conclusion that Count Room is a complete full blown asshole. Alan is not far behind that conclusion.
Normally, you might want to accuse someone of trolling when they make certain comments. But in this case, when so much is at stake and so little is known about the motives behind the attack, everything needs a fair hearing and no one should be criticized for making any suggestions. Even the most outlandish idea might be the key to the puzzle. In this case, and in this discussion, everyone with an idea deserves a "pass."
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