Rob Singer banned

[Count Room]

I thought this was some satire, or a poor attempt at a joke when I first read it, but obviously not.... to even fathom some sick clown committing mass murder because Singer got banned from a board the dude wasn`t even a member of is one of the most bizarre things I`ve ever read..... asswipe Mendelson lending credence to it is hardly surprising tho

Look, I may be wrong, OK? I honestly don't know. I wasn't trying to hurt anyone by suggesting the possibility. The shooter may have had 20 different things wrong with his mind and what happened with Rob's banning may have been only a small factor.

Trying to read the mind of a deranged murderer is almost impossible to do when he left few written clues behind, and all possibilities need to be looked at.

This has been a miserable experience for me just bringing up the possibility.

[Alan Mendelson]

How did I know Biloxi would use this to jump all over me?

Count Room you did nothing wrong.

[OneHitWonder]

Count Room was a better man to say something than not to say it.

Did you see the new, Unabomber series? So many good psychological thrillers. I like the part on the end where they told him to plead guilty or be portrayed insane. He was smarter than all of them together, and they didn't want him to talk at a trial.

[Biloxi Bill]

I thought this was some satire, or a poor attempt at a joke when I first read it, but obviously not.... to even fathom some sick clown committing mass murder because Singer got banned from a board the dude wasn`t even a member of is one of the most bizarre things I`ve ever read..... asswipe Mendelson lending credence to it is hardly surprising tho

Look, I may be wrong, OK? I honestly don't know. I wasn't trying to hurt anyone by suggesting the possibility. The shooter may have had 20 different things wrong with his mind and what happened with Rob's banning may have been only a small factor.

Trying to read the mind of a deranged murderer is almost impossible to do when he left few written clues behind, and all possibilities need to be looked at.

This has been a miserable experience for me just bringing up the possibility.

I don`t know you Sir, so I`m not going to ridicule you....but I would keep that theory to myself and never run around repeating it....best to let the Vegas PD and FBI do what they do....but I must ask you, you don`t really think someone would commit a mass murder because someone was banned from an anonymous message board, do you?

[Alan Mendelson]

What the FBI is doing right now is putting up billboards around Vegas asking the public to call in with information. That's what the FBI is doing.

It appears they've hit a brick wall.

Question: can one man create a brick wall after everything else that has happened?

One thing Rob said to me at about 3 this morning: I guess the FBI will be calling me.

[OneHitWonder]

This is a anonymous gambling board loaded with predominantly 99% bullshit. Save your analysis for somewhere that someone might care.

What better place to post an analysis rather then another extremely far-fetched scenario from afar, especially when I think that the idea of scenarios, itself, is part of the problem. If I were on another forum, I would post it there.

How long did the missing airliner story stay in the news? And to what depth? All for nothing but to stir up a collective angst. The plane is still missing, and the Malaysians still deny much happened. Other planes have gone missing, since. On to the next human disaster.

Of course, I am well aware of the fact that we post for ourselves first, as 99% of the responses will be negative overall on a gambling board. I thought you, of all persons, knew that. Ha. A "King of the Shit pile" competition. Sincere posts are something to feel good about wherever such land.

P.S. I wouldn't write any of this down if not on some board for the motivation.

[Count Room]

I don`t know you Sir, so I`m not going to ridicule you....but I would keep that theory to myself and never run around repeating it....best to let the Vegas PD and FBI do what they do....but I must ask you, you don`t really think someone would commit a mass murder because someone was banned from an anonymous message board, do you?

Earlier this summer a car dealer talked to the shooter. The shooter said he was depressed due to relationship troubles.
Jesus, I don't know, man. The banning may have just been one extra psychological weight towards the end.

I agree that law enforcement should look into all these possibilities.

[OneHitWonder]

I agree that law enforcement should look into all these possibilities.

They do more than that. An example of early behaviour modification study. "Panopticism is a social theory named after the Panopticon, originally developed by French philosopher Michel Foucault in his book Discipline and Punish. The "panopticon" refers to an experimental laboratory of power in which behaviour could be modified, and Foucault viewed the panopticon as a symbol of the disciplinary society of surveillance." Foucault's panopticism.

Why does anyone here think they need our simplistic help? Lol. They f around with people as it is.

[pkspins]

Count Room you did nothing wrong.

I totally agree.
I don't think that it is a plausible theory because the shooter was planning this for a while from what they have found already and said publicly. Different hotel rooms near different concerts, amassed large quantities of weapons over time, etc..
But I don't think you did anything wrong sharing it.

[OneHitWonder]

One thing Rob said to me at about 3 this morning: I guess the FBI will be calling me.

Maybe they can get to the bottom of the crap on the gambling boards before the last few die out.

[MisterV]

One thing Rob said to me at about 3 this morning: I guess the FBI will be calling me.

You were talking to him at 3AM?

Egad.

That weird bit of fluff aside, I suspect Paddock was a suicidal depressive who likely never received professional help.

His seemingly having scoped out other venues for a possible massacre (e.g. Chicago, downtown Las Vegas) puts to rest in my mind the notion that something happened immediately before the massacre which triggered his response.

No, this fiend seems to have determined to go out in this monstrous way some time ago; he was just waiting for the ideal opportunity, and unfortunately he found it.

On another board, LarryS. makes the point that his motives don't matter, what's done is done.

[quahaug]

Thank goodness Rob is gone. His posting about the shooting would be quite disgusting due to his self aggrandizement. I'm sure Alan will keep feeding into it though.

[OneHitWonder]

On another board, LarryS. makes the point that his motives don't matter, what's done is done.

LS is another board. Lol. I could shorten that sentence to LSD, as in still strung out. Another closet idiot of the "I Do It" (all the time) variety?

[MisterV]

LS is another board. Lol. I could shorten that sentence to LSD, as in still strung out. Another closet idiot of the "I Do It" (all the time) variety?

He makes more sense than many, and can usually back up his arguments in a logical way.

Whether you agree with his points or not is ultimately irrelevant, at least in the context of a message board.

[Biloxi Bill]

Count Room you did nothing wrong.

I totally agree.
I don't think that it is a plausible theory because the shooter was planning this for a while from what they have found already and said publicly. Different hotel rooms near different concerts, amassed large quantities of weapons over time, etc..
But I don't think you did anything wrong sharing it.

Im not saying he did anything wrong....I`m just trying to dissuade him from repeating that theory at the local Starbucks or barber shop....he seems like a nice person

[OneHitWonder]

He makes more sense than many, and can usually back up his arguments in a logical way.

Whether you agree with his points or not is ultimately irrelevant, at least in the context of a message board.

It's not about quantity, but about quality of argument, when we digress from simple gambling talk, which, ultimately, springs devoid of intuition and other scientific curiosity. Gamblers often wax "poetic" about how they could do anything in life, but the opposite is true. Scientists don't become gamblers, though that would be the more likely outcome. Nor does Shackleford, one of the most backward scientists ever - if I met one - quite suffice as an example.

That said, LarryS tries to make common English arguments to support a lot of other stuff. You can't. People study for years to write proper papers about even what makes gamblers "tick". And which can't be just read and made much sense of. Another reason that you can't get through to persons who talk gambling all day. There's a qualitative change in the language and presentation.

People often say that we just can't see a genius because we aren't thinking at those levels. It's not that they see, say, at a higher wavelength of thought, with the analogy to see the ultraviolet spectrum, but that they think differently. They aren't any "taller" than the others. We see them, and choose to overlook their works. You can't describe general relativity, or the theory of integrated consciousness, and the like with everyday words. But the gambling crowds wrongly think that they can, and proceed to do so (without even knowing where it fits in) with absolute confidence.

This is part of the allure of gambling for me. It's a special sort of opposite to every thing which makes sense. Opposite enough to be interesting. (For me, iq isn't so much about this either as it is making the most of the thoughts I do have. A sort of game theory approach to intelligence, and some other things.)

[kewlJ]

You were talking to him at 3AM?
Egad.

Hey, 3AM is a magical time for Alan. When he is not talking to crazy Rob Singer on the phone, he is out measuring blackjack tables and taking blurry pictures (from the wrong seat) at Mirage. Not sure which is "crazier".

[MisterV]

Must be a night owl, but hey, who gives a hoot?

[kewlJ]

The corrected quote above with the underlined word would have been a much more neutral statement about that contentious argument. This is about another matter entirely, a much more serious matter.

NO..,,this isn't about another, much more serious matter, or at least it wasn't until YOU hijacked this thread (post #62). Up until that point this thread entitled Rob Singer Banned was discussing......Rob Singer being banned. For some odd reason, the thread about this horrible shooting wasn't good enough for you, so you "hijacked" into this thread with your insane theories....and they really are quite insane.... trying to connect the shooter to Rob Singer being banned on a message board site.

[Count Room]

NO..,,this isn't about another, much more serious matter, or at least it wasn't until YOU hijacked this thread (post #62). Up until that point this thread entitled Rob Singer Banned was discussing......Rob Singer being banned. For some odd reason, the thread about this horrible shooting wasn't good enough for you, so you "hijacked" into this thread with your insane theories....and they really are quite insane.... trying to connect the shooter to Rob Singer being banned on a message board site.

I agree this was a horrible thought that crossed my mind, but how else does someone try to make rational sense of an insane criminal except to provide insane theories? I wasn't trying to hijack the thread because Rob's banning wasn't "good enough".

The odds are infinitesimally small that something like this happened, but I felt I should bring it up to "leave no stone unturned" in the search for answers, simple as that. There is a somewhat larger chance the shooter read these boards using a proxy IP address, but that's out of my hands now. I only mentioned Rob in the shooter's context because of the similar law-abiding career & lifestyle choices. It left me uncertain as to whether Paddock might have been a fan of Rob in the past, if not recently.

There's not much I can do if you guys want to flog me about it over and over again, I guess. It was a sudden, frightening thought I wasn't sure what to do with.