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    Quote Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    When are you going to prove YOUR claims?
    I would never expose my financials to even banks online. Imagine the stupidity of your mind to think anyone with brains would release them on an anonymous forum filled with the fucking destitute dangerous hustling morons like on this site. How fucking stupid could you be?

    Claims of success being made about gambling without proof is just bullshit and deserves to be challenged. If you can’t talk about how your alleged claims are being done, then don’t expect anyone else to believe it. Put-Up or Shut-Up.
    Blackhole, I have always found you to be a very mean and bitter person. Just a really angry guy....about what I have no idea. But I never thought you were stupid. These two thoughts, made almost back to back in the same post is just idiotic. How can you not see the complete hypocrisy of these two statements?

    Basically you are saying that you don't have to prove anything.....but others do. The fact is nobody needs to prove anything. That just IS NOT how an anonymous message board works. People have a right to say and make whatever claims they want. And you are free to draw your own conclusions. But you just don't have a right to demand proof of anything. That's just ludicrous.
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    On a brighter note, occasionally a sports handicapper has an email collection dating back a decade that demonstrates profit. Now those who think sports handicappers are "APs" would find that troublesome for debunking APs in general.

    Me, personally, I don't label myself an AP. But I can't control how other people label various forms of gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biloxi Bill View Post
    Then limp on back to your 3 man site and crawl back up Larry S ass where you belong, Punk
    Hey, since Frank doesn't post there we are in serious need of a mole to whack.

    I see you waving your hand: thanks for volunteering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    On a brighter note, occasionally a sports handicapper has an email collection dating back a decade that demonstrates profit. Now those who think sports handicappers are "APs" would find that troublesome for debunking APs in general.

    Me, personally, I don't label myself an AP. But I can't control how other people label various forms of gambling.
    I don't know why you refuse to accept the label of AP? While I don't understand most of what you do, you obviously have a track record off winning over 30-40 years. So while I don't understand it, you have found some way to play with an advantage. THAT sir is an AP. Someone playing with an advantage. I don't know how it could be any clearer. But if you don't like that classification or label for whatever reason, that is fine.

    As for your decision to prove anything....that was your decision. I think it was wrong as it only emboldens those that seek proof of anything from anyone, when they have absolutely no right to. BUT it was your right to do so and I understand why you did. You probably just got sick of the 'badgering'.

    So you proved. Ahh...what did that get you? Alan dishonestly delaying and dragging his feet in an attempt to undermine you and Singer declaring your proof not good enough before he ever saw it. You are not going to win with people that are dishonest and refuse to play fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    I would never expose my financials to even banks online. Imagine the stupidity of your mind to think anyone with brains would release them on an anonymous forum filled with the fucking destitute dangerous hustling morons like on this site. How fucking stupid could you be? Better yet, the stupidity of some that offer you to put up 10K to meet in person and be shown proof. Imagine anyone with means willing to do something this stupid for 10K. Just an alleged AP detour.

    This is a gambling forum talking about gambling. Claims of success being made about gambling without proof is just bullshit and deserves to be challenged. If you can’t talk about how your alleged claims are being done, then don’t expect anyone else to believe it. Put-Up or Shut-Up.

    Like I said several times before, Mickey does it and talks about how he does it. His claims are totally somewhat believable under his special conditions. But, it’s harmless 2-bit action. Just stop with all the phantom nonsense like in my quote above.

    If this was a business forum about something I was involved in and I made outrageous claims of success, you could make a good bet that everyone on it would be all over me for proof. Instead, I wouldn’t utter a word about any golden goose I caught. I would keep my mouth shut and just go with the flow paying attention to every detail being discussed that could help me even further.

    In other words, your request for proof for something that is totally un-related to the conversations of alleged AP gambling profits on a gambling forum, is just another AP detour.

    Then again, I could always take the typical and obvious AP response… Fuck-Off
    I just quoted my whole post above, to demonstrate when bullshit artists cherry pick quotes to fit their narrative.

    Below is what phony fraud quoted with such a clever comment:

    QUOTE : I would never expose my financials to even banks online. Imagine the stupidity of your mind to think anyone with brains would release them on an anonymous forum filled with the fucking destitute dangerous hustling morons like on this site. How fucking stupid could you be?

    Claims of success being made about gambling without proof is just bullshit and deserves to be challenged. If you can’t talk about how your alleged claims are being done, then don’t expect anyone else to believe it. Put-Up or Shut-Up. End of cherry picked quote:


    Comment to fit cherry pick text: But I never thought you were stupid. These two thoughts, made almost back to back in the same post is just idiotic. How can you not see the complete hypocrisy of these two statements?

    Kewlj, your a phony and a fraud, I'm pretty sure that fact is stamped, confirmed, and closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    On a brighter note, occasionally a sports handicapper has an email collection dating back a decade that demonstrates profit. Now those who think sports handicappers are "APs" would find that troublesome for debunking APs in general.

    Me, personally, I don't label myself an AP. But I can't control how other people label various forms of gambling.
    I don't know why you refuse to accept the label of AP? While I don't understand most of what you do, you obviously have a track record off winning over 30-40 years. So while I don't understand it, you have found some way to play with an advantage. THAT sir is an AP. Someone playing with an advantage. I don't know how it could be any clearer. But if you don't like that classification or label for whatever reason, that is fine.

    As for your decision to prove anything....that was your decision. I think it was wrong as it only emboldens those that seek proof of anything from anyone, when they have absolutely no right to. BUT it was your right to do so and I understand why you did. You probably just got sick of the 'badgering'.

    So you proved. Ahh...what did that get you? Alan dishonestly delaying and dragging his feet in an attempt to undermine you and Singer declaring your proof not good enough before he ever saw it. You are not going to win with people that are dishonest and refuse to play fair.
    I can't speak for Redietz, but to me the term AP implies that there is an advantage that is being used to one's benefit. In sports and horses, there is no "advantage" other than brains and experience that is being used. Otherwise, we are all playing by the same rules. When MC vultures an UX bonus, that is an advantage. I guess you could say that when I see a horse that should be 3-1 and he is sitting at 8-1, that that is an advantage. Or when Redietz finds a line that is off, that is an advantage. But everyone can do that, so it is his knowledge and experience which I, and I assume he, doesn't feel makes him an AP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    On a brighter note, occasionally a sports handicapper has an email collection dating back a decade that demonstrates profit. Now those who think sports handicappers are "APs" would find that troublesome for debunking APs in general.

    Me, personally, I don't label myself an AP. But I can't control how other people label various forms of gambling.
    I don't know why you refuse to accept the label of AP? While I don't understand most of what you do, you obviously have a track record off winning over 30-40 years. So while I don't understand it, you have found some way to play with an advantage. THAT sir is an AP. Someone playing with an advantage. I don't know how it could be any clearer. But if you don't like that classification or label for whatever reason, that is fine.

    As for your decision to prove anything....that was your decision. I think it was wrong as it only emboldens those that seek proof of anything from anyone, when they have absolutely no right to. BUT it was your right to do so and I understand why you did. You probably just got sick of the 'badgering'.

    So you proved. Ahh...what did that get you? Alan dishonestly delaying and dragging his feet in an attempt to undermine you and Singer declaring your proof not good enough before he ever saw it. You are not going to win with people that are dishonest and refuse to play fair.
    True dat.

    I tend to avoid the AP label because I think of AP as casino-specific, and sports or race betting is not casino specific. Now I am a (mini)AP video poker player -- still up about 5K lifetime playing primarily quarters, for which I'm sure Alan would yawn and Wizard of Puke would have a fit. Better, however, than losing. Plus I previously got a dozen nights a year plus comped. Then Boyd cut that -- but now it seems I'm back on for two nights a month starting in January. That's probably, however, due to the massacre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Then Boyd cut that -- but now it seems I'm back on for two nights a month starting in January. That's probably, however, due to the massacre.
    Yes, boyd offers really went into the toilet this year. They really cut back. The timing almost makes you think that their purchases o the two cannery casinos and Alainte, set them back financially and they wanted to cut costs somewhere else. So they did so in mailer offers, which is the thing that made them successful in the local market. We will see how that plays out for them.

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    KJ, you two-bit drama queen, I for one am getting tired of your promising to leave but then not leaving, enveloping yourself in personal drama and stamping your ruby reds in a tizzy fit about being mistreated by those who think you're an assclown.
    Then limp on back to your 3 man site and crawl back up Larry S ass where you belong, Punk
    Are you referring to the PenaltyBox or Gamblers Glen??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    KJ, you two-bit drama queen, I for one am getting tired of your promising to leave but then not leaving, enveloping yourself in personal drama and stamping your ruby reds in a tizzy fit about being mistreated by those who think you're an assclown.
    You can't be serious here but respect larrys.
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