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  1. #61
    Ah yes.

    Back when Jimmy Olson used to tag along with Superman.

    Got it.
    What, Me Worry?

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I sometimes take time to sing and celebrate.
    That's got to be the lamest youtube video I've ever seen LMFAO!! Did you thumbs up your own video?

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Video keno is my fastest game. I play up to 4000 games per hour with no mistakes.
    Mickey my friend, I know nothing about keno or video keno. And I have no doubt, you are one of the top players of that game and most that you decide to play.

    But I have a problem with anyone who says I do this or that with no mistakes. Players often make these claims in blackjack count debates. I can plays my super duper count as fast as you can play hi-lo, with no mistakes. How does one KNOW this? Unless you are video taping your play and analyzing each play, you or anyone else can't possible know how many mistakes they are making.

    I am quite sure you are making some mistakes, because you are a human being. You may be making very minimal mistakes, maybe have the lowest error rate around, because you are a top player in your field, but unless you are claiming to not being a human being, you my friend, are making some mistakes.
    KJ, it's easy to tell you've never played video keno. LOL!
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #64
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I sometimes take time to sing and celebrate.
    Doing goofball stuff like this can actually be good cover for an AP on a play. I remember Bob Dancer writing about being on a play and doing stuff similar to what Alan does here. The short of it was casino personnel let Bob stay on a play while pitching a serious couple off of it because they thought the couple were AP's but thought Bob was just a goofball degenerate gambler.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #65
    I think that it's goofballs rationalizing goofball stuff, but in a different manner. After all, the gamblers exist because of the casinos.
    Last edited by OneHitWonder; 10-14-2017 at 07:59 AM.

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I sometimes take time to sing and celebrate.
    Doing goofball stuff like this can actually be good cover for an AP on a play. I remember Bob Dancer writing about being on a play and doing stuff similar to what Alan does here. The short of it was casino personnel let Bob stay on a play while pitching a serious couple off of it because they thought the couple were AP's but thought Bob was just a goofball degenerate gambler.
    Yes that's true, however, I dont think I could bring myself to act like Alan in that video.


    There have been a few times when I hit something and the attendant saying something like, "you don't seem that excited." I just say, "I'm just in shock, I can't believe I finally hit something.

  7. #67
    There's been some activity on the VP speed challenge. A guy played ten minutes of FPDW on two adjacent machines at Santa Fe Station. His total hourly rate was over 2500 hands. That's fast. The Wizard posted a couple of videos to YouTube.

    Now the same challenger is going to establish a single-machine record.

  8. #68
    Here's the YouTube channel link:

    https://www.youtube.com/user/TheOddsMustBeCrazy

    Click VIDEOS to see the latest content.

    Long version of the two-machine challenge:


  9. #69
    This guy plays 2 machines fast. So what. He probably made more errors than anyone would care to admit. Most people make mistakes playing comfortably. But good for him and his ten minutes of wizzard fame.

  10. #70
    Originally Posted by wizardofpuke View Post
    He probably made more errors than anyone would care to admit.
    He played error-free. I thought it was pretty cool.

  11. #71
    Just curious--I did not watch anywhere close to the whole thing. But I noticed on one hand he kept ace queen suited with a deuce. On another he only kept the deuce. I don't play deuces. Is that because there was another of that suit discarded in the latter? Anyone know the reason and/or the numbers? Arci???

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Just curious--I did not watch anywhere close to the whole thing. But I noticed on one hand he kept ace queen suited with a deuce. On another he only kept the deuce. I don't play deuces. Is that because there was another of that suit discarded in the latter? Anyone know the reason and/or the numbers? Arci???
    I don't have my strategy cards in front of me, but I thought you keep just the deuce if the two-to-the-royal involves the ace. If it's K-J suited or whatnot, you keep the three to the royal with the deuce. It's a close call, but I think that's correct. Anybody know for sure?

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    But I noticed on one hand he kept ace queen suited with a deuce. On another he only kept the deuce.
    Good catch. Yes, it's a penalty card situation. I think the way it works out, the AQs is only held with the deuce if the hand is completely free of interference. The deuce alone is correct if any flush or straight penalty card is present -- which would include another card of the same suit, or any K, J or Ten.

  14. #74
    I don't really now the FPDW strategy, but according to the basic strategy, AJ2 isn't a proper hold normally, but it is sometimes on the basic strategy exceptions.

    https://wizardofodds.com/games/video...5-d-200-d-800/

  15. #75
    Did he make any money? If not what the heck is the point of playing fast?
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  16. #76
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    Did he make any money? If not what the heck is the point of playing fast?
    FPDW has a 0.76% advantage. Although it's not a huge advantage, the game can be played around the clock, because it's always there. At say 2,400 hands/hour, that's $3,000 coin in per hour, for an hourly EV of $22.8. The faster you play, the more coin in you do, which means the more money you make.

  17. #77
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    Did he make any money? If not what the heck is the point of playing fast?
    FPDW has a 0.76% advantage. Although it's not a huge advantage, the game can be played around the clock, because it's always there. At say 2,400 hands/hour, that's $3,000 coin in per hour, for an hourly EV of $22.8. The faster you play, the more coin in you do, which means the more money you make.
    So how much did he make?
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  18. #78
    It looks like he may have started with two hundred but at the end he had less than two hundred I think. So playing faster helps how? I'm not talking variance here I'm just saying in the real world situation he lost five bucks or so in ten minutes. That's fifty bucks on hour lost.
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  19. #79
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    I'm not talking variance here I'm just saying in the real world situation he lost five bucks or so in ten minutes. That's fifty bucks on hour lost.
    I didn't look carefully, but I thought he lost more like $50 in ten minutes. Which would be $500 an hour, using your conversion rate.

  20. #80
    Originally Posted by bocce ball View Post
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    I'm not talking variance here I'm just saying in the real world situation he lost five bucks or so in ten minutes. That's fifty bucks on hour lost.
    I didn't look carefully, but I thought he lost more like $50 in ten minutes. Which would be $500 an hour, using your conversion rate.
    If he's losing $500 an hour on 25 cent FPDW with a .76% player advantage, just think of the money Alan is losing on $5 8/5 BP with a .85 casino advantage!

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