just what is an AP player?

[OneHitWonder]

Different games will have different bankroll requirements. Card counters need much more than hole carders.

Card counters need more to survive the odds, yes. But how often do you (legally) see a hole card?

And what of quality or value of survival?

Playing one right now. Only it's not a blackjack game.

Tell me about it.

Unless you have rich and generous parents, or win the lottery, it takes money to make money as an investment. You can't win more than you put down, all things considered.

[RS__]

You can't win more than you put down, all things considered.

Huh?

[OneHitWonder]

You can't win more than you put down, all things considered.

Huh?

All things considered.

[MisterV]

Is it true that most of the residents of Las Vegas who gamble play VP as opposed to other games?

[bocce ball]

Is it true that most of the residents of Las Vegas who gamble play VP as opposed to other games?

They seem to prefer machines instead of table games. Strip casinos usually have higher proportions of tables on their gaming floors, and the local bars and taverns are all machines, no tables.

VP is probably more popular in the Vegas locals places than anywhere else, but I don't know if it's numerically more popular than reel slots. The official statistics tend to lump all types of machine games into one category. I also see a lot of people playing video keno at the locals casinos.

[RS__]

I think part of it is that most people in general prefer to play machines. Idk about VP vs other machines, but that sounds pretty fair most locals prefer VP.

As far as bars, I suspect a large part of it is due to licensing as well as ease of having a machine on a bar top as they don't take up any extra room and don't need to be watched like tables.

[OneHitWonder]

Card counters need more to survive the odds, yes. But how often do you (legally) see a hole card?

And what of quality or value of survival?

Playing one right now. Only it's not a blackjack game.

Tell me about it.

Unless you have rich and generous parents, or win the lottery, it takes money to make money as an investment. You can't win more than you put down, all things considered.

Or don't. Aside from Jacobson's usual song and dance to sell a few more gambling papers stapled together on Amazon about what the players are doing versus what the casinos are doing, we have to figure that it's dealer-101 not to expose a lot of cards to, at least, become certified, and, at most, not to lose their jobs any time soon, as even the "eye", these days, picks up on card counting, etc.

I guess that not many AP's have consulted with a financial adviser or planner either. Investments aren't exactly something we start out with.


P.S. Ha. It could be that a few people see a few things here and there, and before we know it they have some more Mendelson stories about so many of this and that in a row.

[OneHitWonder]

Is it true that most of the residents of Las Vegas who gamble play VP as opposed to other games?

You have to figure that gamblers as a group are among the laziest, and least literate. I'll give their detractors the nod on that.

[redietz]

Now be nice, OneHit. Nevada has the ninth lowest adult obesity rate in the United States. So they can't be all that lazy.

Of course, it's not because people in Nevada have slimmed down. It's because the rest of the states have blimped up -- the US now has an obesity rate around 40% for adults.

As to literacy, I suspect it's the same deal. If nobody else can read, you don't look so bad. Plus the LV weekly magazines are better than just about any except the Village Voice.

So let's not be hasty. The rest of the country is at least as lazy and illiterate as Las Vegans, maybe more so.

[bocce ball]

The rest of the country is at least as lazy and illiterate as Las Vegans, maybe more so.

The lazy and stupid are clustered heavily (no pun intended) in the Southeast, but excluding them, Nevada is probably the worst.

Obesity rates are strongly correlated with geography. That's because fat people are unable to cross over the Rocky Mountains.

Nevada ranks near the bottom in most measures of educational attainment or intelligence, and the smoking rate is pathetic.

[OneHitWonder]

Of course, it's not because people in Nevada have slimmed down. It's because the rest of the states have blimped up -- the US now has an obesity rate around 40% for adults.

As to literacy, I suspect it's the same deal. If nobody else can read, you don't look so bad. Plus the LV weekly magazines are better than just about any except the Village Voice.

Red, you are, of course, right. Thanks for taking the time to flesh that out. Sometimes, I take the "low road" to see what pops up. Nobody is perfect. It's just my style of posting.

[OneHitWonder]

Nevada ranks near the bottom in most measures of educational attainment or intelligence, and the smoking rate is pathetic.

This, too, is what I have heard and read.

[MisterV]

"For 20 years, Nevada’s senior suicide rate has remained No. 1 in the nation."

source: https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/ma...tions-highest/

[kewlJ]

Nevadans are fate, lazy, stupid and like to kill themselves. Some uplifting thoughts here this morning.

[MisterV]

What do you expect?

Too hot to jog and workout during the summer.

Very little culture.

Attracts gamblers, almost all of whom become long term losers.

Poor school system.

Slots in grocery stores: 'nuf said.

[kewlJ]

What do you expect?

Too hot to jog and workout during the summer.

Very little culture.

Attracts gamblers, almost all of whom become long term losers.

Poor school system.

Slots in grocery stores: 'nuf said.

Come on MrV, lighten up. You are a stoner...smoke a bit and think happy thoughts!

BTW, it is not too hot to jog and workout in the summer. Gyms and fitness centers are air conditioned and if you want to go for a jog outdoors, you get up early and do it. Most summer days top out in the 105 range. The low at night is in the 80's So Am hours are in the 80's to 90's depending on just how early you get started. 80's and 90's in Vegas is like 70's and 80's elsewhere. Fine for a jog. (if you are motivated to do so.)

[redietz]

What do you expect?

Too hot to jog and workout during the summer.

Very little culture.

Attracts gamblers, almost all of whom become long term losers.

Poor school system.

Slots in grocery stores: 'nuf said.

Come on MrV, lighten up. You are a stoner...smoke a bit and think happy thoughts!

BTW, it is not too hot to jog and workout in the summer. Gyms and fitness centers are air conditioned and if you want to go for a jog outdoors, you get up early and do it. Most summer days top out in the 105 range. The low at night is in the 80's So Am hours are in the 80's to 90's depending on just how early you get started. 80's and 90's in Vegas is like 70's and 80's elsewhere. Fine for a jog. (if you are motivated to do so.)

I just turned 60, and jogging-wise, 103/104 degrees in Las Vegas is about as taxing as 85 degrees in Tennessee, where the humidity will kill you. You just have to jog before 8 AM. I must admit, though, it does feel weird to jog with such low humidity that you can feel your sweat dry and cool you like little icicles or something as it runs down your face. Very different from being soaked with sweat in a high humidity environment.

[kewlJ]

So, redietz, tell me about JoelDeze, who is handicapping college football on Wizard's site. Do you know him? What kind of track record does he have? Or is he just an unknown member of WoV who started posting his picks?

[OneHitWonder]

I just turned 60, and jogging-wise, 103/104 degrees in Las Vegas is about as taxing as 85 degrees in Tennessee, where the humidity will kill you. You just have to jog before 8 AM. I must admit, though, it does feel weird to jog with such low humidity that you can feel your sweat dry and cool you like little icicles or something as it runs down your face. Very different from being soaked with sweat in a high humidity environment.

I did a lot of running, up until about 25 years ago. Isn't the difference between jogging and running at the seven-minute mile mark? Up here, the icicles are real, and you have to take your coat off to run in the wintertime. The human body generates a lot of heat. The trick is to wear a good winter hat. Most of our heat exits our heads.

"In Canada alone does the word refer to a soft, felted or knitted winter hat. It is interesting to note that Canada boasts the highest per capita ownership of toques, with up to seven per person in any given household, of which at least two will be mislaid each winter. Thus, as with cats and umbrellas, Canadian toques are only nominally "owned," but rather make up a huge floating population which emerges in the winter to intermix and migrate to new owners."

[OneHitWonder]

So, redietz, tell me about JoelDeze, who is handicapping college football on Wizard's site. Do you know him? What kind of track record does he have? Or is he just an unknown member of WoV who started posting his picks?

He started out all about craps with a system or course that he claimed couldn't lose. Stuff like knowing when to start and stop play.