Blackhole & coach belly

[AxelWolf]

Yes I have done some media work and consulting for casino companies. Frankly the casinos are not concerned about APs but are definitely concerned about cheating. Cost cutting, employees, attendance, debt ratios, entertainment budgets, and everything else that goes into a mega resort.

Sure they don't like card counters but if you don't vary your bet or stand out they won't care -- you're just part of the normal business.

You AP machines? They don't care because someone has to win the jackpots but don't cheat getting there.

The entire AP debate is more "academic" than real. Casinos have bigger concerns like the next big entertainment to book or a restaurant lease.

I'll never forget when I asked a manager about the player at Caesars who won two million in a craps game. (I was there when it happened.) The reaction was that it happens all the time. (Actually it doesn't happen all the time but it illustrates how they don't care.)

Also... look at the number of casinos now who don't enforce the back wall rule. That shows the hysteria over dice setting is over.

You guys who are beating the casinos for a hundred grand a year are of no concern to the bigger companies. But Mickey could never get away with that in a bar in Montana.

That's because DI never worked in the first place.

FYI there is probably an 84% chance people don't believe what you are saying.

[mickeycrimm]

But Mickey could never get away with that in a bar in Montana.

I don't work that way. I don't tag just one joint. I got to 100K in 2015 by taking the money out of several hundred bars in Montana. In other words, just a little out of each. That's the way it's always worked in Montana.