Tracking multiple BJ tables - Richard Munchkin

[OneHitWonder]

Post it up.

FUCK YOU! It is NOT my duty to teach you shit! And it is not your right to demand "shit".

I am happy to engage in respectful discussions and try my best to explain things (which isn't one of my strengths) to people when asked politely in a reasonable discussion. THAT is not YOU! I don't know what planet you are F-ing from that you think you have the right to demand anything of me.

Okay, sorry that I asked.

Let's say that the count is favorable or unfavorable half the time. Now that is being generous one way or the other. So, we have the combinations, each with probability of 1/4, that: table 1 is good, and table 2 is good; table 1 is good, and table 2 is bad; table 1 is bad, and table 2 is good; and, lastly, that table 1 is bad, and table 2 is bad. This means that you will be switching to table 2 a 1/4 of the time, precisely when table 1 is bad, and table 2 is good. Furthermore, sometimes, either table will be only slightly better than the other, and you will elect to stay where you are, when we have the middle two (mixed) cases in the list of four cases. This means that you will be switching only 1/2 X 1/4 = 1/8 of the time. 12.5 % of the time you will switch chairs to an other table. Going by the math alone. And under the most liberal of definitions for a good or bad count. Almost break even counts.

Additionally, the dealers tend to nicely overlap the cards, even closer the more cards in a hand, or splits of hands. How to distinguish even the face cards, especially at the various angles of the cards around a table and lighting.

As far as the dealers go, they "play" a lot more blackjack than you ever will. They know almost exactly where they (the house) stands on every hand at every time. Let alone any casino surveillance.

BUSTED!

[Dankyone]

Post it up.

FUCK YOU! It is NOT my duty to teach you shit! And it is not your right to demand "shit".

I am happy to engage in respectful discussions and try my best to explain things (which isn't one of my strengths) to people when asked politely in a reasonable discussion. THAT is not YOU! I don't know what planet you are F-ing from that you think you have the right to demand anything of me.

Okay, sorry that I asked.

Let's say that the count is favorable or unfavorable half the time. Now that is being generous one way or the other. So, we have the combinations, each with probability of 1/4, that: table 1 is good, and table 2 is good; table 1 is good, and table 2 is bad; table 1 is bad, and table 2 is good; and, lastly, that table 1 is bad, and table 2 is bad. This means that you will be switching to table 2 a 1/4 of the time, precisely when table 1 is bad, and table 2 is good. Furthermore, sometimes, either table will be only slightly better than the other, and you will elect to stay where you are, when we have the middle two (mixed) cases in the list of four cases. This means that you will be switching only 1/2 X 1/4 = 1/8 of the time. 12.5 % of the time you will switch chairs to an other table. Going by the math alone. And under the most liberal of definitions for a good or bad count. Almost break even counts.

Additionally, the dealers tend to nicely overlap the cards, even closer the more cards in a hand, or splits of hands. How to distinguish even the face cards, especially at the various angles of the cards around a table and lighting.

As far as the dealers go, they "play" a lot more blackjack than you ever will. They know almost exactly where they (the house) stands on every hand at every time. Let alone any casino surveillance.

BUSTED!

[Dankyone]

99% of dealers have no clue where the house “stands” at any time. I mean, they know they have to stand on 17 (hopefully) but they have absolutely no idea whether the player or the house has the advantage on a particular hand.

[kewlJ]

Okay, sorry that I asked.

Let's say that the count is favorable or unfavorable half the time. Now that is being generous one way or the other. So, we have the combinations, each with probability of 1/4, that: table 1 is good, and table 2 is good; table 1 is good, and table 2 is bad; table 1 is bad, and table 2 is good; and, lastly, that table 1 is bad, and table 2 is bad. This means that you will be switching to table 2 a 1/4 of the time, precisely when table 1 is bad, and table 2 is good. Furthermore, sometimes, either table will be only slightly better than the other, and you will elect to stay where you are, when we have the middle two (mixed) cases in the list of four cases. This means that you will be switching only 1/2 X 1/4 = 1/8 of the time. 12.5 % of the time you will switch chairs to an other table. Going by the math alone. And under the most liberal of definitions for a good or bad count. Almost break even counts.

Additionally, the dealers tend to nicely overlap the cards, even closer the more cards in a hand, or splits of hands. How to distinguish even the face cards, especially at the various angles of the cards around a table and lighting.

As far as the dealers go, they "play" a lot more blackjack than you ever will. They know almost exactly where they (the house) stands on every hand at every time. Let alone any casino surveillance.

BUSTED!

The only response to this HAS to be the ultimate insult.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...092E&FORM=VIRE

[Biloxi Bill]

Kewlj every time you lie I'm going to call you out on it. The photos were not taken from an end seat. Why don't you post your own photo??

I've been asking other forum members to look for themselves. Have none of you been in a casino since this discussion started?

You've admitted the information you can gather at a second table is limited. That tells me you can't have an accurate count.

Anyone can go to the casinos you mentioned on the West side of the Strip and see for themselves that the tables are too far apart. Then they can observe for themselves when the dealers deal -- and they would have to be in sync for you to accomplish what you claim.

Frankly you just can't deal with someone saying the emperor has no clothes.

I don't fall for your bullshit.

And regarding the package, Tony told me what was there. I didn't have to see it. Redietz wouldn't post it, so you expected me to post it? No. If it's so important let redietz post it or let him send it to you so you can post it.

Now grow up.

Now this is priceless....the town bullshit artist (Alan Bojangles) has appointed himself head of the Liar Police.....what`s next, Coach Betty appointing himself Chief of the Heterosexual Club of America?....lolololololololol

[OneHitWonder]

99% of dealers have no clue where the house “stands” at any time. I mean, they know they have to stand on 17 (hopefully) but they have absolutely no idea whether the player or the house has the advantage on a particular hand.

For starters. They, the ones who "play" a lot more than you, will tell you the basic strategy rules of what to hit, etc, against what?

[OneHitWonder]

Okay, sorry that I asked.

Let's say that the count is favorable or unfavorable half the time. Now that is being generous one way or the other. So, we have the combinations, each with probability of 1/4, that: table 1 is good, and table 2 is good; table 1 is good, and table 2 is bad; table 1 is bad, and table 2 is good; and, lastly, that table 1 is bad, and table 2 is bad. This means that you will be switching to table 2 a 1/4 of the time, precisely when table 1 is bad, and table 2 is good. Furthermore, sometimes, either table will be only slightly better than the other, and you will elect to stay where you are, when we have the middle two (mixed) cases in the list of four cases. This means that you will be switching only 1/2 X 1/4 = 1/8 of the time. 12.5 % of the time you will switch chairs to an other table. Going by the math alone. And under the most liberal of definitions for a good or bad count. Almost break even counts.

Additionally, the dealers tend to nicely overlap the cards, even closer the more cards in a hand, or splits of hands. How to distinguish even the face cards, especially at the various angles of the cards around a table and lighting.

As far as the dealers go, they "play" a lot more blackjack than you ever will. They know almost exactly where they (the house) stands on every hand at every time. Let alone any casino surveillance.

BUSTED!

The only response to this HAS to be the ultimate insult.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...092E&FORM=VIRE

Sorry, but you're BUSTED!

[Alan Mendelson]

By the way, put two people between you and the next table, one or both at your table or at the table next to you between your eyes and the table surface, and you won't see any cards at the other table.

Damn it Alan! This is what infuriates me about you. THIS was established way back in July or August or whenever this topic first came up. I clearly said "when conditions permit". So you have spent months searching for and taking pictures of conditions that don't permit. I have to ask again, What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you really this thick? Maybe You should have been Alan Thicke. (that was weak I know).

Well let me be blunt: it seems to me you only have a rare opportunity for conditions to be right.

At the other table there are players ONLY at first base and the second seat, and at your table ONLY if no one is on your right obstructing your view, will you have a view of the table top on the right. (Reverse this for a table on your left.)

Next: ONLY if the dealer at the second table deals when your table is not in play do you have a chance to see the other table cards.

Next: ONLY if you can see over the lip and the cards are nicely exposed will you see the cards.

Next: ONLY if you think cards in play for two players will give you sufficient information to jump tables.

Next: ONLY if entering the second table mid shoe and you're not stuck at table minimum.

Wow. And just how often do you find this?

[Biloxi Bill]

My posts are primarily questions...are my questions hateful?

You, on the other hand, have written about wishing that you could shoot someone...isn't that hateful?

Hypocrites should be discredited, and so I quote their own words to expose their hypocrisy.

That's not hateful, and it has nothing to do with AP or Rob Singer, or whatever delusions that your psychosis has caused.

You call Alan a liar. I don't think that he is a liar, I don't know him to be a liar.

But I know that you are a liar, because you posted lies about me.

I know that you are a hypocrite based on what you have posted on this forum, and you continue to discredit
yourself with your disgraceful (and hateful) posts.

...like this...

What a classy guy and such an asset to this forum.

Hey dummy, what did he say that was a lie?.....Shouldn`t you be tarting yourself up for a night at the Transgender Palace with your shiny new honkers?.....One question for you tho....Aren`t your players gonna be confused when they see their "Coach" with tits?....or do you just wear 6X sweatshirts and duct tape?

[Dankyone]

99% of dealers have no clue where the house “stands” at any time. I mean, they know they have to stand on 17 (hopefully) but they have absolutely no idea whether the player or the house has the advantage on a particular hand.

For starters. They, the ones who "play" a lot more than you, will tell you the basic strategy rules of what to hit, etc, against what?

They tell you alright—and are wrong on most of the difficult/unusual hands.

[Biloxi Bill]

And you know what else Alan? You should stop mentioning that photo was taken at 3am. You mention that like it's a good thing. You jumping up at 3am and running to the casino to take a photo of a blackjack table shows what a complete obsessive nut you are. That is exactly the kind of thing that will be brought up at your competency hearing...which I suspect isn't far off.

Actually taking the photo at 3am was the right thing to do. Since the blackjack pit was closed I was able to sit down at a table and take the photos. There was no one there to stop me.

By the way most of my career was spent working nights. I worked my way through college as an overnight DJ at radio stations in Syracuse. At CBS News in New York as a producer I started work at midnight for the Morning News and to deal with our foreign bureaus in Europe and Asia. In Miami in the 1980s I covered the airline industry and that involved everything from all night contract talks to covering crashes anytime and any place. In LA in the 1990s and later I was on the 10 PM and 11 PM news and we'd party starting at midnight. And more recently working nights especially when editing and writing has the advantage of few distractions.

And now that I'm retired (or at least semi retired) I can do what I want when I want.

I'm still waiting to see your photo. It might provide good cover for you. You can claim to be a tourist, especially when they see you staring at the next table.

By the way, put two people between you and the next table, one or both at your table or at the table next to you between your eyes and the table surface, and you won't see any cards at the other table.

You actually said at the time that you had to go get gas at 3AM, Mr Bojangles, remember??.....That makes total sense to all of us that have those middle of the night petroleum insomnia attacks, lololol.....dumbass

[OneHitWonder]

99% of dealers have no clue where the house “stands” at any time. I mean, they know they have to stand on 17 (hopefully) but they have absolutely no idea whether the player or the house has the advantage on a particular hand.

For starters. They, the ones who "play" a lot more than you, will tell you the basic strategy rules of what to hit, etc, against what?

They tell you alright—and are wrong on most of the difficult/unusual hands.

Basic strategy is basic strategy. The "card". Obviously, they aren't going to tell you when to hit your soft 19. But they will certainly look at you well aware of what you are doing when you do.

[Alan Mendelson]

Biloxi yes I also had to get gas and I also went thru a drive thru to get some food. I was also working on my website and I was also taking my girlfiend's dog for a walk about that time because it's too hot for dogs to walk during summer days. What else do you need to know dumbass?

[kewlJ]

For starters. They, the ones who "play" a lot more than you, will tell you the basic strategy rules of what to hit, etc, against what?

OMG! You clearly have no clue! Dealers give some of the worse advise I have heard. There are only a small handful that even know basic strategy.

Maybe that is/was your problem, OneHit. You listened to the dealers and that's why you lost so much and are now so bitter.

[kewlJ]

Well let me be blunt: it seems to me you only have a rare opportunity for conditions to be right.

At the other table there are players ONLY at first base and the second seat, and at your table ONLY if no one is on your right obstructing your view, will you have a view of the table top on the right. (Reverse this for a table on your left.)

Next: ONLY if the dealer at the second table deals when your table is not in play do you have a chance to see the other table cards.

Next: ONLY if you can see over the lip and the cards are nicely exposed will you see the cards.

Next: ONLY if you think cards in play for two players will give you sufficient information to jump tables.

Next: ONLY if entering the second table mid shoe and you're not stuck at table minimum.

Wow. And just how often do you find this?

Alan you are either an idiot or an asshole. There can be no in between.

Either you are just flat out stupid (and I try to cut you a little slack because I know blackjack is not your game), or you are the biggest dickhead on the internet. I am asking you politely to disclose which...idiot....or....asshole, because I really don't want to waste anymore time playing your games.

Edit: I just can't deal with you any longer Alan. You are turning me into the same kind of angry bitter person that you and your two anti-APers are. Goodbye Alan. Blocked.

[Alan Mendelson]

I don't want to play games anymore either. It was you who made the fantastic claim about counting two tables and once I pinned you down, kewlj, you backtracked to add that conditions must be right. So when are conditions right? Probably never.

[kewlJ]

Edit: I just can't deal with you any longer Alan. You are turning me into the same kind of angry bitter person that you and your two anti-APers are. Goodbye Alan. Blocked.

And while I was blocking, I added a couple other names. I think this solves all my issues with this site.

[mickeycrimm]

It's all automated now. But, the casinos always did go by who wins and loses. How do you hide that?

Now you are really showing your stupidity. Surveilance goes by the betting pattern according to the count.

Yes, and that is automated.

but it wasn't always automated.

[mickeycrimm]

99% of dealers have no clue where the house “stands” at any time. I mean, they know they have to stand on 17 (hopefully) but they have absolutely no idea whether the player or the house has the advantage on a particular hand.

For starters. They, the ones who "play" a lot more than you, will tell you the basic strategy rules of what to hit, etc, against what?

So they tell you to stand with your 12 against a dealer 2. They are very bad at basic strategy.

[Biloxi Bill]

Biloxi yes I also had to get gas and I also went thru a drive thru to get some food. I was also working on my website and I was also taking my girlfiend's dog for a walk about that time because it's too hot for dogs to walk during summer days. What else do you need to know dumbass?

That is quite a list for 3AM...working on a website....going thru a drive thru at presumably some fast food joint....getting gas (lol,that one always gets me)... stopping off at a casino to take pictures to try and prove some total stranger wrong on a website...and taking your girlfriends doggy for a walk....It`s rather confusing keeping track of your wives and girlfriends, but perhaps you might want to try more enriching endeavors at 3AM and maybe you won`t run thru females like a fat housewife runs thru bon-bons....wise up dummy