Blackho, why do you think you get banned out of threads? Could it be it's because you are an idiot troll? That's my guess.Originally Posted by blackhole
Blackho, why do you think you get banned out of threads? Could it be it's because you are an idiot troll? That's my guess.Originally Posted by blackhole
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
No, I don’t think that’s it. It’s Dan's house and he gets to control the direction he wants to see the forum go.Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You’re confusing my posts that I consider my personal opinions backed by facts as trolling. Degenerate gamblers are always in denial and if they have the power will remove your opposing opinions that are open for debate to eliminate having to deal with denials of the facts.
Main Stream media comes to mind with how they deal with Trump in fear of him draining the swamp. If CNN don’t invite opposing arguments for debate from the other side, then you have the CNN you could view today. No need for denial of facts. Only how they can construe the facts to fit their narrative is what matters. So, what could be easier than eliminating opposing facts from the get go?
Imagine our government being straight up? The odds of that are about as good as a gambling forum loaded with alleged self-proclaimed anoyomus AP’s withdrawing millions from casino games complete with medical benefits and a healthy safe and secure retirement being straight up.
Last edited by blackhole; 11-28-2018 at 05:47 AM.
Good stuff Blackhole. You got me to thinking. But isn't denial a river in Africa?
So yeah, YOU T3 crossed the line long ago. As for the owner of that site and his recent behavior, I was asked not to comment on, and so I won't.
KJ writes:
Moses replies: KJ, who would ask you not to comment and why would you oblige? Is there some kind of blackjack forum hell where we all sent for hurting Sir Normcelots feelings? Okay, I will see there Norm.
Bosox and KJ: All you need to do is ask T3/Dummy one question. What are the tag values assigned to each card? Consider T3 and Flash to be one in the same. T3 has stated a few times that Flash was his mentor. Flash would post hundreds of different tag values he took from Peter Griffins book for each specific play. That would be like me assigning 53 different side counts to a 52 card deck. IT'S BULLSHIT. If T3 says he can perform two different counts and an Ace side count over the course of 312 cards and be perfectly accurate? He is lying. I've tried it over 52 cards. Holy mindfuck, Batman.
Last edited by Moses; 11-28-2018 at 07:17 AM.
What the fuck are you talking about? Did Redditz pick you up in his spacecraft?Originally Posted by MosesGood stuff Blackhole. You got me to thinking. But isn't denial a river in Africa?
So yeah, YOU T3 crossed the line long ago. As for the owner of that site and his recent behavior, I was asked not to comment on, and so I won't.
KJ writes:
Moses replies: KJ, who would ask you not to comment and why would you oblige? Is there some kind of blackjack forum hell where we all sent for hurting Sir Normcelots feelings? Okay, I will see there Norm.
Bosox and KJ: All you need to do is ask T3/Dummy one question. What are the tag values assigned to each card? Consider T3 and Flash to be one in the same. T3 has stated a few times that Flash was his mentor. Flash would post hundreds of different tag values he took from Peter Griffins book for each specific play. That would be like me assigning 53 different side counts to a 52 card deck. IT'S BULLSHIT. If T3 says he can perform two different counts and an Ace side count over the course of 312 cards and be perfectly accurate? He is lying. I've tried it over 52 cards. Holy mindfuck, Batman.
Lmao...funny shit, was thinking the exact same thingOriginally Posted by blackholeWhat the fuck are you talking about? Did Redditz pick you up in his spacecraft?Originally Posted by MosesGood stuff Blackhole. You got me to thinking. But isn't denial a river in Africa?
So yeah, YOU T3 crossed the line long ago. As for the owner of that site and his recent behavior, I was asked not to comment on, and so I won't.
KJ writes:
Moses replies: KJ, who would ask you not to comment and why would you oblige? Is there some kind of blackjack forum hell where we all sent for hurting Sir Normcelots feelings? Okay, I will see there Norm.
Bosox and KJ: All you need to do is ask T3/Dummy one question. What are the tag values assigned to each card? Consider T3 and Flash to be one in the same. T3 has stated a few times that Flash was his mentor. Flash would post hundreds of different tag values he took from Peter Griffins book for each specific play. That would be like me assigning 53 different side counts to a 52 card deck. IT'S BULLSHIT. If T3 says he can perform two different counts and an Ace side count over the course of 312 cards and be perfectly accurate? He is lying. I've tried it over 52 cards. Holy mindfuck, Batman.
Primarily a spin off what you said. Imagine our government being straight up? Consumers are fed so much bullshit that it becomes not only believable, but a way of thinking to society. Same thing in a blackjack forum. We have rulers (not Dan) that want to control speech who support utter bullshit. Then they want to put their head in the sand when it gets too hot and try to make it all go away. Maybe I should've posted in another thread. But you got me to thinking and since this thread is 334 posts of complete utter bullshit anyway? I figured why not post it here.Originally Posted by blackhole
I just woke up laughing and now I know why. Dan will not ban blackhole from this thread.
Synopsis: the purpose kew brought up the mythical concept of counting an adjacent table DURING PLAY as something "positive" was simple--he wants and actually NEEDS attention. And with his subsequent flurry of adjustments to the quickly declining value of the claim, how much more obvious can he make it that he's in fear of his perceived anonymous internet existence and relevance being at risk?
The whole thing is stupid. redietz takes a tape measure out of his spacecraft toolbox and does everything but sit at a table--which is the only true and meaningful way to approach this. For my part, I consulted with a casino authority at a location that is known for having closer than normal tables. And Alan went a step further than anyone---probably even including the very suspect claimant. And that same claimant has continually been afraid to meet with Alan at a casino to prove his claim! Simple to do....but he reacts as any phony who just told another whopper would.
And kew....stop spewing your BS about why AP's use fake names. You claim it's to keep casinos from identifying them? You actually believe casinos send scouts to these blabby dabby do forums to get concrete identity knowledge and info from a bunch of armchair theorists? You really think casinos don't already know who's sitting at their tables? You've really inundated yourself with every gambling fantasy you can create. Try again, and at the same time try not to be the dumbest guy in the room. Listen up dumbo (and this is not a choice....you can't make another mistake with this one): AP Posters Use Fake Names For The Sole Purpose Of Being Able To Make Any Claim They Wish While Having The Smallest Chance Possible Of Being Exposed, thereby being able to perpetuate their hoax. And YOU are the poster boy for that.
Good points Rob.
I never really thought much about it. I just know the less shit I have my head when I'm playing, the better. At BJTF, the only site I'd ever known, that's what everybody did/does.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Well no, At least not the way you put it. lol My game or long run is only as good as the weakest guy in the pit. In other words, some guy gets twitchy in the pit and BAM I get a lifetime ban. So it's best to "be nice and play nice" and not try to push anyone's hot button. But it's human nature for people to care about their job and talk about it outside of work. Ever been to a corporate Christmas party? Holy shit, stab me in the eye with a fork...it feels sooo much better than listening to them go on and on.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
If I were a pit boss, I'd read the forums. My worry has always been some of these guys are so damn twitchy they actually believe some of this shit. They get pissed and the next guy that comes in, with any game at all? WHAM, he gets 86ed. Trust me Rob. Some horrible counters have been banned.
I just assume they know. For instance, the group where you have friends are the top notch cream of the crop. Many have come from other casinos. Better pay and benefits I guess. They have a job to do and that needs to be respected first and foremost. Otherwise, ones ass is toast and they are hot butter. But I don't think they want every player to lose. In fact, I think it's good for business when some actually win consistently without hammering the house. Take away the dream and you take away the player. No? If you happen to think about it, ask your friend about it sometime. I'd be interested in his opinion.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
In pitch games, you could put the count on a tote board behind the table and it would increase casino profits. Why? 1.) HiLO in pitch does about as much damage as shooting a bear with a 22 rifle. Hence, it's just enough to piss off the bear. 2.) People don't know how to handle money. I can't tell you how many times I've witnessed a guy come up to the table with a $500 buy in, win 5 out of 8 hands, and leave the table broke screaming "this place is fucking me."
Last edited by Moses; 11-28-2018 at 08:40 AM.
I know for a fact that casinos and casino personnel participate on some AP related forums. At BJ21, Sandford Wong disclosed that among the paid subscriptions were members that worked for the casinos. At WoV, Zcore is open about the fact that he is a casino employee and I would bet a lot of money that there are others that haven't disclosed it, both that participate regularly and just lurk. Now on a smaller site such as this??...I have no idea.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Furthermore, I know for a fact from inside sources, who I will not disclose, nor offer anything further of, that OSN (Oregon Surveillance Network), who is probably the top database organization in Las Vegas against advantage players, employs social media 'experts' that search different social media platforms linking up bits of information with actual names and pictures. Frankly....THAT is their job.
You would know all this Singer, if you were a legitimate AP or player that REALLY is capable of beating the casinos. But you are not. You are simply an internet troll, trolling AP's and spewing your hate and ridiculous fantasies of how you won a million dollars using progressions and stop limits...which can't be done. It's just nonsense. And you are no threat to casinos and that is why you have no clue to how any of this works.
How about you just stick to what little you DO know about? tell us more about living in a vehicle in someone else's driveway, running extension cords to steal electricity and internet. That is good stuff! Technically, would even qualify as a very low level advantage play. LOL.
Last edited by kewlJ; 11-28-2018 at 08:49 AM.
https://goo.gl/images/hmyXbP Happens all the time!!Originally Posted by Rob.SingerI just woke up laughing and now I know why
Synopsis: the purpose kew brought up the mythical concept of counting an adjacent table DURING PLAY as something "positive" was simple--he wants and actually NEEDS attention. And with his subsequent flurry of adjustments to the quickly declining value of the claim, how much more obvious can he make it that he's in fear of his perceived anonymous internet existence and relevance being at risk?
The whole thing is stupid. redietz takes a tape measure out of his spacecraft toolbox and does everything but sit at a table--which is the only true and meaningful way to approach this. For my part, I consulted with a casino authority at a location that is known for having closer than normal tables. And Alan went a step further than anyone---probably even including the very suspect claimant. And that same claimant has continually been afraid to meet with Alan at a casino to prove his claim! Simple to do....but he reacts as any phony who just told another whopper would.
And kew....stop spewing your BS about why AP's use fake names. You claim it's to keep casinos from identifying them? You actually believe casinos send scouts to these blabby dabby do forums to get concrete identity knowledge and info from a bunch of armchair theorists? You really think casinos don't already know who's sitting at their tables? You've really inundated yourself with every gambling fantasy you can create. Try again, and at the same time try not to be the dumbest guy in the room. Listen up dumbo (and this is not a choice....you can't make another mistake with this one): AP Posters Use Fake Names For The Sole Purpose Of Being Able To Make Any Claim They Wish While Having The Smallest Chance Possible Of Being Exposed, thereby being able to perpetuate their hoax. And YOU are the poster boy for that.
Hold on a second. I'm going to say something about why you should not post using your real name.
Several years ago a casino dropped me from all mailers because I mentioned playing on my son's card to earn him points. While the casino never caught me in the act (and there was never any proof I actually did it) they would not send me any more offers including free play. My host also protested on my behalf.
I never returned to that casino. It was their loss, not mine. Because I never had a yearly profit there.
I did mention the casino when this first happened but I don't want to mention the casino now.
First of all, thank you for exposing yourself as just another confidence-lacking liar again by claiming you blocked me! All you do is keep confirming how very important it is for you to keep your self-perceived internet charade in one piece....at all costs. You JUST CAN'T RESIST SEEING WHAT'S BEING SAID ABOUT YOU, which means you never sleep well. You expose how you have no real life outside this game you play on the forums. You're the exact type of disgustingly weak and pathetic person this world has no use for.Originally Posted by kewlJI know for a fact that casinos and casino personnel participate on some AP related forums. At BJ21, Sandford Wong disclosed that among the paid subscriptions were members that worked for the casinos. At WoV, Zcore is open about the fact that he is a casino employee and I would bet a lot of money that there are others that haven't disclosed it, both that participate regularly and just lurk. Now on a smaller site such as this??...I have no idea.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Furthermore, I know for a fact from inside sources, who I will not disclose, nor offer anything further of, that OSN (Oregon Surveillance Network), who is probably the top database organization in Las Vegas against advantage players, employs social media 'experts' that search different social media platforms linking up bits of information with actual names and pictures. Frankly....THAT is their job.
You would know all this Singer, if you were a legitimate AP or player that REALLY is capable of beating the casinos. But you are not. You are simply an internet troll, trolling AP's and spewing your hate and ridiculous fantasies of how you won a million dollars using progressions and stop limits...which can't be done. It's just nonsense. And you are no threat to casinos and that is why you have no clue to how any of this works.
How about you just stick to what little you DO know about? tell us more about living in a vehicle in someone else's driveway, running extension cords to steal electricity and internet. That is good stuff! Technically, would even qualify as a very low level advantage play. LOL.
And again you pop up another known self-proclaimed ap for what he's said and has never proven. "Stanford Wong says blah blah blah"....and you believe it instantly because you're so gullibly biased. Did he provide names so his claim could be confirmed? And who the hell cares what Zcore says about what he allegedly does....has anyone confirmed HIS story? No, because idiot puppets like yourself want and need all this nonsense to be true, just so you can feel good about your easily seen-thru internet forum hoax.
Wise up....and again, thank you.
Could be that one of your WoV haters made a call. I know this happens because it's happened to me twice here, although not in the same context you mentioned. For me however it doesn't matter a bit. All it takes is enough money to make this stuff irrelevant.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Actually Rob there are several SoCal casinos who USED TO monitor this forum and my website constantly. If you recall, 24 hours after I criticized Rincon for cutting it's VP paytables the casino was bombarded with complaints from customers and Rincon changed back the paytables. Don't tell kewlj that people actually read my website and forum back then because he won't believe it.
Today? I'm sure outside of the eight members of the AP mafia who criticize you and me for talking about reality no one else seriously reads these messages. Everyone else comes here via keyword searches and promptly leaves when they only see garbage posts.
There is only one place where you will find two tables with shoes side by side...and that's only on weekends As Rob said, Pmill tables are closest together. If I stand behind one table I can see and count the cards at the other table. But what a pain in the ass. People tucking cards. Double down goes card down and they don't turn it up. Some fuckhead waiting forever in deciding whether to hit or stand. Then you have to revert quickly back to the table your standing at. It's like watching a tennis match at full speed motion.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
If I sit in the middle chair, I'm constantly looking to my left. IF I sit on the end then I can't see at all. IF some fat ass sits down on the end I can only spot 2 or 3 hands from the middle chair. Now Wong is wrong if the table is empty. Most shoe dealers look lonely or as if they just took Sing Sing picks last weekend. lol But how in the blue fuck am I going to stand there counting down and not be noticed? There is sooo much dicking around. Cocktail waitress constantly asking for drinks, Changing in and out. Who the hell has time to play cards? It's like watching a basketball game because you enjoy the commercials. Going back to my post #337 I'd rather spend an entire day with Harry Lipservice than an hour doing this shoe +2 Wong thing.
In a week, I'd be one of those guys downtown rubbing poop in my hair and wearing my underwear outside my pants. No thank you.
Last edited by Moses; 11-28-2018 at 07:44 PM.
Good grief.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Why didn't you tell the casino that:
1) "Hey, that wasn't me, it must have been another alan mendelson;"
or
2) "I was just fibbing, I do it all the time just to fuck with people; hell, I've publicly admitted I lie all the time."
What, Me Worry?
It appears if you share the same opinion that Dan has, it’s safe to post and troll anyone you want. Alan was completely on topic sharing information that actually backed anonymous AP’s beliefs when it comes to forums only to immediately be trolled by the atheist alleged lawyer.Originally Posted by MisterVGood grief.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Why didn't you tell the casino that:
1) "Hey, that wasn't me, it must have been another alan mendelson;"
or
2) "I was just fibbing, I do it all the time just to fuck with people; hell, I've publicly admitted I lie all the time."
If Dan posted the same thing Alan just did would the atheist alleged lawyer have posted the same type trolling post? So, where’s the trolling cop Dan now?
I know it’s your place Dan and just like us you could take any side you want on any argument. But, don’t you think you should at least behave like an adult and be consistent and fair.
I could pull up hundreds of trolling posts attacking Alan from MaxPen, Bozo, Redditz, and the rest of the AP gang from the past. Apparently, it appears that recently you decided to take an interest in the forum. I have no problem adhering to the new enforcement. But, shouldn’t the hammer come down equally on everyone?
Besides, from a business point of view, Alan is the number one reason for 75% of your traffic.
Last edited by blackhole; 11-29-2018 at 04:36 AM.
You aren't getting banned from forums because of an opposing opinion, blackho. That's bullshit on your phony part. You are getting banned because you are fucking with people, calling them names, for no reason. Look forward to more of the same, dumass. You are the most worthless moron that has ever joined this forum.Originally Posted by blackholeNo, I don’t think that’s it. It’s Dan's house and he gets to control the direction he wants to see the forum go.Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You’re confusing my posts that I consider my personal opinions backed by facts as trolling. Degenerate gamblers are always in denial and if they have the power will remove your opposing opinions that are open for debate to eliminate having to deal with denials of the facts.
Main Stream media comes to mind with how they deal with Trump in fear of him draining the swamp. If CNN don’t invite opposing arguments for debate from the other side, then you have the CNN you could view today. No need for denial of facts. Only how they can construe the facts to fit their narrative is what matters. So, what could be easier than eliminating opposing facts from the get go?
Imagine our government being straight up? The odds of that are about as good as a gambling forum loaded with alleged self-proclaimed anoyomus AP’s withdrawing millions from casino games complete with medical benefits and a healthy safe and secure retirement being straight up.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Dan Druff has made it clear that Trolling Only will not be tolerated.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou aren't getting banned from forums because of an opposing opinion, blackho. That's bullshit on your phony part. You are getting banned because you are fucking with people, calling them names, for no reason. Look forward to more of the same, dumass. You are the most worthless moron that has ever joined this forum.Originally Posted by blackholeNo, I don’t think that’s it. It’s Dan's house and he gets to control the direction he wants to see the forum go.Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You’re confusing my posts that I consider my personal opinions backed by facts as trolling. Degenerate gamblers are always in denial and if they have the power will remove your opposing opinions that are open for debate to eliminate having to deal with denials of the facts.
Main Stream media comes to mind with how they deal with Trump in fear of him draining the swamp. If CNN don’t invite opposing arguments for debate from the other side, then you have the CNN you could view today. No need for denial of facts. Only how they can construe the facts to fit their narrative is what matters. So, what could be easier than eliminating opposing facts from the get go?
Imagine our government being straight up? The odds of that are about as good as a gambling forum loaded with alleged self-proclaimed anoyomus AP’s withdrawing millions from casino games complete with medical benefits and a healthy safe and secure retirement being straight up.
Many of the members who Troll have also shared valuable information.
However, anyone who Trolls a Thread Only and nothing else gets deleted and or banned from the thread.
The Forum is the most relaxed as far as leniency and tolerance goes.
Not sure what anyone can gripe about, myself included.
Let’s analyze Mickeys post above.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou aren't getting banned from forums because of an opposing opinion, blackho. That's bullshit on your phony part. You are getting banned because you are fucking with people, calling them names, for no reason. Look forward to more of the same, dumass. You are the most worthless moron that has ever joined this forum.Originally Posted by blackholeNo, I don’t think that’s it. It’s Dan's house and he gets to control the direction he wants to see the forum go.Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You’re confusing my posts that I consider my personal opinions backed by facts as trolling. Degenerate gamblers are always in denial and if they have the power will remove your opposing opinions that are open for debate to eliminate having to deal with denials of the facts.
Main Stream media comes to mind with how they deal with Trump in fear of him draining the swamp. If CNN don’t invite opposing arguments for debate from the other side, then you have the CNN you could view today. No need for denial of facts. Only how they can construe the facts to fit their narrative is what matters. So, what could be easier than eliminating opposing facts from the get go?
Imagine our government being straight up? The odds of that are about as good as a gambling forum loaded with alleged self-proclaimed anoyomus AP’s withdrawing millions from casino games complete with medical benefits and a healthy safe and secure retirement being straight up.
This post is coming from the biggest troll on this site. He’s used every curse word on the planet while communicating with anyone that don’t agree with him. In his own signature he’s calling Rob a fraud.
He called me dumass, worthless moron, and warned me to expect more of the same in the future in the same post he’s claiming I’m calling people names. Suspecting someone might be a degenerate gambler on a gambling forum is well within the boundaries.
I know Mickey, and Kewlj are looking for a forum where they could make endless alleged claims without residence, and I suspect this is the only place they have left hoping to filter out any doubters. They just might succeed here with not many participants.
Mickey always claims his trolling is in defense of being trolled first. Calling his AP plays two-bit are nothing more than suggesting there similar to bringing a leaf bag full of deposit bottles for a cash in.
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