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  1. #1161
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    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Mr V doesn't know anything. He can't even tell when someone is serious with him or yanking his chain.
    Nice try at deflection, but there's a fly in the ointment.

    The post you lied your ass off in, you know, the one where you said you never filed tax returns although you got over $700K in W-2G's last year: that post wasn't you talking to me, it was you talking to someone else, l.e. Blackhole.

    You bragged to him: "Blackhole... you have confused millions of coin in with millions won. It is true I have had many w2gs... last year over 750k. This can be offset but I don’t file. I haven’t filed in 20 years. I don’t own anything."

    I guess I missed the part where Blackhole and everyone else except me learned how to tell when you are lying.

    Face it: the truth is that none of us can tell if you are serious or lying, but then you already know that, unless of course you are so fucked up in the head you can no longer distinguish reality from fantasy.
    So says the weasily little pothead

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    Hey V,
    F off you f’ing ahole

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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    MC, unlike you I have no hardon for Singer; to me he's neither friend nor foe.

    I had hoped Dan would stick to his guns as I like to understand what the rules are, but he's giving Singer wide latitude so I guess that is that.

    The fact that I agree with some of what Singer has posted does not mean he's my new buddy.

    Prozema, I'm sorry but unlike you I cannot blithely overlook Monet's bullshit; you ask "So what?"

    The answer, in a word, is "credibility."

    When a man is exposed as a liar all he has said and will say becomes suspect.
    Why are you giving Argentino AKA Singer a pass if you don't like liars?
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 04-15-2018 at 11:05 PM.
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    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Hey V,F off you f’ing ahole
    No reason to muzzle yourself there, mcap: big boy curse words can be freely typed and read here.

    Please do make a note of it you felching dirty sanchez-sporting piece of shit.
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    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    Yeah, I get all that V. In an atempt to summarize... You, and I'm sure some others, think Monet lying and is not crediable. At the same time other people (or maybe just me?) disagree.

    I just want to read what Monet and others have to say.... I even want to read what Singer and Mendelson (Ol' S&M... Hahahahhahahahaha) have to say... After reading all that, I just want to make up my own mind on what makes sense.

    As I've written this, I think I've come to understand the value of your posts.... Even though I disagree with your take on Monets crediability, you gave me the opportunity to consider that. For that I thank you.
    I learned one impportant thing from reading monet as a novice gambler. The the average person cant do what APs do on a weekend on vacation, or a weekend in reno, or even a week. It involves pumping tens of thousands of dollars into a machine over a period of hours and hours to the point where you may need a second person to do shifts with you. While MC cherry picks machines that are due to hit small jack[pots, which is another tactic......the other APs are pumping massive cash into the machines.

    So I learned that its not as simple as saying"hey monet just point to a good machine for me".......because I would not ever use those type funds. I dont have the patience or the nerve.
    Monet and the article by Dancer...i think thats who it was who got involved with WoN..where he detailed bringing something like 40k to a promotion and was feeding the machines....to the point where he was collecting ticketsTITOthat he didnt even know he had.

    it was eye opening, and i believe it from monet .....anything else he says doesnt effect me one way or the other. I will never be working with him, he wont be invited to my grandsons bris., I dont expect to interact with him or have my wife do his taxes. He is insignificant in my life....as I am in his life. So for me to feign disappointment, or anger that he lied would be unfair and false. Yeah, I dont believe he got away with no taxes for 20 years. Even if he uses multiple UPS store mail boxes to get all his"offers".....it doesnt take a genius to track him down, He may want to portray himself as a shady James Bond.....or some sort of mission impossible master of disguise....but thats fine.
    Since he prefers to work alone its not like he can have a worker get paid(for a fee) instead of him. So it all comes down to this. He makes a claim that is hard to believe, but then if by chance he has figured out a way to dodge the feds....I dont expect him to detail it here...or anywhere in public....or even tell anyone privately.

    There is no real info that I need to extract from him on any subject. So if he is lying about stuff...it wont hurt me one way or the other.

    Maybe he has really paid taxes, maybe he didnt throw 20 dollar bills at the homeless, maybe he didnt go to a hockey game, maybe he never met AW as he cllaims,...who the fuck knows....and i dont care...it means nothing to me as far as my life goes.

    on this entire board, the only thing I believe, is that MrV takes mind altering drugs. Other than that its all window dressing, its all a make believe community with a bunch off oddball people
    one dude that sees the impossible and acts like a catatonic oaf while it occurs
    another dude that claims to be the second coming of billy walters
    a shady tax evading self proclaimed dirty AP
    A dude that proclaims that the math and long run doesnt apply to him
    a dry for a year alcoholic which I doubt every much
    a dude that thinks wearing a flying dice shirt is fashionable
    a dude that faked at least one death

    and I am supposed to get upset when one of the above lies?
    I'm in my 14th month. Not even hard to do. Doubt it all you want. I don't give a rats ass.
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Hey V,F off you f’ing ahole
    No reason to muzzle yourself there, mcap: big boy curse words can be freely typed and read here.

    Please do make a note of it you felching dirty sanchez-sporting piece of shit.
    Whoa.
    Is that you skankhunt?

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I find it interesting that while monet claims to be a highly experienced casino rat, it takes him buckets & buckets of words to get his lies....I mean points....across. Sort of like mickey after he barfs in the toilet. And just like redietz, he buried himself.
    So were you lying when you told Shack 47% or were you lying when you told Mendelson 18%....or were you lying to both of them?
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    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    on this entire board, the only thing I believe, is that MrV takes mind altering drugs. Other than that its all window dressing, its all a make believe community with a bunch off oddball people
    one dude that sees the impossible and acts like a catatonic oaf while it occurs
    another dude that claims to be the second coming of billy walters
    a shady tax evading self proclaimed dirty AP
    A dude that proclaims that the math and long run doesnt apply to him
    a dry for a year alcoholic which I doubt every much
    a dude that thinks wearing a flying dice shirt is fashionable
    a dude that faked at least one death
    Yo wtf Larry's, where's my shoutout?

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    LarryS... it doesn't even count if you don't include yourself. Leaving yourself out just diminishes the whole thing and is just bad form.

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    What these guys don't understand is if NASA sends you into space to drill on a meteor and blow it up you never have to pay any taxes again for your entire life and this includes all blood relatives.

    It's in the Canadian Code eh? Also if you find a mouse in a bottle of Elsinore Beer you get the next two four free.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I find it interesting that while monet claims to be a highly experienced casino rat, it takes him buckets & buckets of words to get his lies....I mean points....across. Sort of like mickey after he barfs in the toilet. And just like redietz, he buried himself.
    So were you lying when you told Shack 47% or were you lying when you told Mendelson 18%....or were you lying to both of them?
    I have no clue what you're referring to. Take another gulp....wait! Isn't Jack Daniels 94 proof?

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    I see a variation on the WoV standard procedure of increasing punishment duration for each new offense was pronounced by BBB.

    She wrote: "Homelessnyc will be suspended for 14 days. Martingale mitigated by it being almost 3 months since his last offense."
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    Not filing tax forms at all is the best strategy if you want to be under the radar and don't want to collect S.S.. Filing false info may be illegal if it can be proved to be intentional rather than sloppy bookeeping. I don't believe not filing at all is a crime.
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    If your income meets the guidelines for who must file as spelled out in form 1040 instructions, then you are required to file.

    If this guy monet doesn't file with $750k yearly in W2G's, then he's breaking the law. And what kind of a stupid wife would he have to have not to be all over him for this, because she's liable just as he is under the criminal code.

    Because he's made such a big deal out of everything it is more likely than not that he's making all this stuff up. That is not the way true AP's would operate, and if they were really breaking the laws so blatantly then they would never, even come on an internet forum and explain it to everyone.

    All you people who've been so easily taken in by his long-winded ramblings about casinos and free play and machine play--I'd think about it for a bit before knighting this imposter. He follows the same path as kew-the-anonymous-one....he sprinkles in just enuf obvious truth to make those of you who want to believe everything he fabricates, seem real.

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    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    Not filing tax forms at all is the best strategy if you want to be under the radar and don't want to collect S.S.. Filing false info may be illegal if it can be proved to be intentional rather than sloppy bookeeping. I don't believe not filing at all is a crime.
    "Look at T & E and out by 3."

    Interesting note quahaug. The Asian and Hispanic communities, in Vegas, have been running rampant with tax returns for decades. In the last ten years it has been worse than ever. They go to these professionals who know all sorts of tricks. Somehow these guys are supposed to get 500 to 1500 back in a refund but they keep managing 4 and 5 thousand dollar returns. I don't understand how it is done but they do it year in and year out.

    Something to do with being able to claim extras with children and something about using home loan deductions and something about business expenses and a ton of other tricks that never seem to cause a problem. The numbers seem to be about a 1% chance of being audited if you file and have less than a 10 million dollar income. If I understand it correctly it is about 20,000 to one shot. However the odds are a 30% chance to get audited if you file more than 10 million in income.
    Last edited by monet; 04-16-2018 at 10:47 AM.

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    More made up nonsense. Why persist with it? You seem to have a creepy fascination with law-breakers....as if you wish you could be one. The slants in LV can't do any more than the rest of us can on tax returns and even if this stuff's what you "heard", you have no idea what they really do. I expect most of them abide by the law.

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    If your income meets the guidelines for who must file as spelled out in form 1040 instructions, then you are required to file.

    If this guy monet doesn't file with $750k yearly in W2G's, then he's breaking the law. And what kind of a stupid wife would he have to have not to be all over him for this, because she's liable just as he is under the criminal code.

    Because he's made such a big deal out of everything it is more likely than not that he's making all this stuff up. That is not the way true AP's would operate, and if they were really breaking the laws so blatantly then they would never, even come on an internet forum and explain it to everyone.

    All you people who've been so easily taken in by his long-winded ramblings about casinos and free play and machine play--I'd think about it for a bit before knighting this imposter. He follows the same path as kew-the-anonymous-one....he sprinkles in just enuf obvious truth to make those of you who want to believe everything he fabricates, seem real.
    Required yes. Criminal if you don't? Not so sure.
    What law specifically and what level of crime is it?
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    If you don't read the 1040 instructions are you still required to file?
    (Alan) simply can't get past the gamblers fallacy--Joe Nahod November 27 2015

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    Of course you are.

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    Ignorance of law excuses no one
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    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    LarryS... it doesn't even count if you don't include yourself. Leaving yourself out just diminishes the whole thing and is just bad form.
    because it would be insincere, since I do personally care if I lie....but I really dont give a shit if the menagerie of folks I listed lie.

    so i do not include myself in the group of people who I accept lying stories from.

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