The WoV Thread

[The Boz]

Constant CV fear monger RED is over at the Wizards place talking about a trip to Vegas in July. But of course he adds he thinks we will be in the 2nd wave then and he probably won’t go. And he won’t ride an elevator.

It appears there is some doubt in his mind since he is even considering a trip.

But no comment on why we haven’t seen this “wave” yet. The protesting has been going on for 2 weeks now. Same with Memorial Day. We have been open in Florida for over a month now.

And the average age of the dead is still well over 75.

The way he plays both sides and is wrong all the time I feel for those who buy his picks this year. Actually no I don’t. Anyone who buys picks from a blog deserves what they get.

Meanwhile America is partying like its 1918 all over again.

[monet]

Constant CV fear monger RED is over at the Wizards place talking about a trip to Vegas in July. But of course he adds he thinks we will be in the 2nd wave then and he probably won’t go. And he won’t ride an elevator.

It appears there is some doubt in his mind since he is even considering a trip.

But no comment on why we haven’t seen this “wave” yet. The protesting has been going on for 2 weeks now. Same with Memorial Day. We have been open in Florida for over a month now.

And the average age of the dead is still well over 75.

The way he plays both sides and is wrong all the time I feel for those who buy his picks this year. Actually no I don’t. Anyone who buys picks from a blog deserves what they get.

Meanwhile America is partying like its 1918 all over again.

I was at the Pecos VA Hospital Yesterday.
It was the first place that had a Virus Patient and Death in Vegas.
They had two Army Tents outside with no activity.
They make you wear a mask and check your temperature to go into the ER.
Of course the place isn't very busy because you have to qualify to use that facility.
Anyways... whatever... I'll let you know if my whole family dies because I was at a place more likely to catch it.
Those of us in the know realize its all Bullshit and I will die falling down the stairs before I catch this Bullshit Virus.

[mickeycrimm]

The CARES act, which includes the expanded eligibility for self employed as well as the additional $600 a week unemployment through July, was crafted entirely by Mitch McConnel and republicans. If you remember the democrats were screaming that they weren't included in the drafting of the initial bill.

Pretty hypocritical for someone on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid to even have the balls to say anything about the "government tit". While I don't consider Social Security and Medicare, welfare programs, they are most certainly government socialist programs, one even having the word in the name.

Medicaid IS a welfare program. And there is no doubt Mickey is or was on Medicaid, when he went through his heart attack and extended hospital stay. He can deny it if it makes him feel better, but there is a caseworker at the hospital, associated with the hospital that signs and helps sign anyone in Mickey's position, up for Medicaid.

So just shut up Mickey and stop judging everyone and being such a douche bag, you hypocrite.

More made up bullshit by prevaricater KJocchio. The $600 was thrown in by Dems and Republicans allowed it in order to get a bill through. But I blame asshole republicans for it too. It's created a situation where people are drawing more in unemployment than they were working....and don't want to go back to work.

One thing is for sure. Two-thirds of the people working cannot sustain paying for the one-third not working. Something must change or this country is headed for a major depression.

OH, how stupid is it that KJ thinks all the looting and burning of Liberal areas of the country is creating votes for democrats. It's just the opposite. They are running those liberal democrat business owners over to the republican party. KJocchio is a special kind of stooooooooooppiiiiiiiiiddddddd!!!!!

I don't see how liberal business owners will move to Republican because of the looting.

Why wouldn't the leader of the country in the middle of race riots and looting (with a history of making racist comments) not be blamed by liberal business owners.

Flipping it, if a bunch of right-wing business owners were looted by 2nd amendment gun owners during a democratic presidency do you believe they would blame the party and vote Democrat?

I highly doubtful that. Pretty certain they would blame the Dem president. Likewise I am pretty certain Dem business owners who have been looted will not be switching their beliefs over this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The president did not allow the looting and rioting. The mayors and Governors of those liberal cities/states allowed it to happen. Thats where the blame lies. They fiddled as their towns burned. They made no moves to stop it when they controlled everything. Giving police stand down orders. Not bringing in the National Guard.

Then you lay the blame on the president, darkoz? People are not that stupid.

PS: The issue of police department defunding is also dividing liberals, some swearing they will not vote for Biden if he supports defunding.

[Darkoz]

More made up bullshit by prevaricater KJocchio. The $600 was thrown in by Dems and Republicans allowed it in order to get a bill through. But I blame asshole republicans for it too. It's created a situation where people are drawing more in unemployment than they were working....and don't want to go back to work.

One thing is for sure. Two-thirds of the people working cannot sustain paying for the one-third not working. Something must change or this country is headed for a major depression.

OH, how stupid is it that KJ thinks all the looting and burning of Liberal areas of the country is creating votes for democrats. It's just the opposite. They are running those liberal democrat business owners over to the republican party. KJocchio is a special kind of stooooooooooppiiiiiiiiiddddddd!!!!!

I don't see how liberal business owners will move to Republican because of the looting.

Why wouldn't the leader of the country in the middle of race riots and looting (with a history of making racist comments) not be blamed by liberal business owners.

Flipping it, if a bunch of right-wing business owners were looted by 2nd amendment gun owners during a democratic presidency do you believe they would blame the party and vote Democrat?

I highly doubtful that. Pretty certain they would blame the Dem president. Likewise I am pretty certain Dem business owners who have been looted will not be switching their beliefs over this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The president did not allow the looting and rioting. The mayors and Governors of those liberal cities/states allowed it to happen. Thats where the blame lies. They fiddled as their towns burned. They made no moves to stop it when they controlled everything. Giving police stand down orders. Not bringing in the National Guard.

Then you lay the blame on the president, darkoz? People are not that stupid.

PS: The issue of police department defunding is also dividing liberals, some swearing they will not vote for Biden if he supports defunding.

It's sad that America right now has millions unemployed, race riots, police committing open murder on cell phone video, over 112,000 dead in three months from a pandemic.

But hey, that's all part of making America great.

After blaming Obama for everything and Hillary who wasn't even elected, now you want to believe that the man in charge isn't to be blamed for anything??

You see the problem is that even if Trump is truly blameless for everything the only thing you can then surmise is that he is incapable of steering the country during disaster.

We need a president who can not only work wonders when they are handed to him on a silver platter but when disaster strikes as well.

So just ask yourself honestly

Tell this forum honestly

Does the state of the US, TODAY, make you happy, make you feel life in America is great again?

Trump has been at the wheel for nearly four years. If this is where we are at now, no liberal is gonna vote for another four.

[BoSox]

I don't see how liberal business owners will move to Republican because of the looting.

Why wouldn't the leader of the country in the middle of race riots and looting (with a history of making racist comments) not be blamed by liberal business owners.

Flipping it, if a bunch of right-wing business owners were looted by 2nd amendment gun owners during a democratic presidency do you believe they would blame the party and vote Democrat?

I highly doubtful that. Pretty certain they would blame the Dem president. Likewise I am pretty certain Dem business owners who have been looted will not be switching their beliefs over this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The president did not allow the looting and rioting. The mayors and Governors of those liberal cities/states allowed it to happen. Thats where the blame lies. They fiddled as their towns burned. They made no moves to stop it when they controlled everything. Giving police stand down orders. Not bringing in the National Guard.

Then you lay the blame on the president, darkoz? People are not that stupid.

PS: The issue of police department defunding is also dividing liberals, some swearing they will not vote for Biden if he supports defunding.

Trump has been at the wheel for nearly four years. If this is where we are at now, no liberal is gonna vote for another four.

Maybe you are right but ultimately most all liberals will all stay home and not vote for " the're going to put you all back in chains" Biden.

[The Boz]

I don't see how liberal business owners will move to Republican because of the looting.

Why wouldn't the leader of the country in the middle of race riots and looting (with a history of making racist comments) not be blamed by liberal business owners.

Flipping it, if a bunch of right-wing business owners were looted by 2nd amendment gun owners during a democratic presidency do you believe they would blame the party and vote Democrat?

I highly doubtful that. Pretty certain they would blame the Dem president. Likewise I am pretty certain Dem business owners who have been looted will not be switching their beliefs over this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The president did not allow the looting and rioting. The mayors and Governors of those liberal cities/states allowed it to happen. Thats where the blame lies. They fiddled as their towns burned. They made no moves to stop it when they controlled everything. Giving police stand down orders. Not bringing in the National Guard.

Then you lay the blame on the president, darkoz? People are not that stupid.

PS: The issue of police department defunding is also dividing liberals, some swearing they will not vote for Biden if he supports defunding.

It's sad that America right now has millions unemployed, race riots, police committing open murder on cell phone video, over 112,000 dead in three months from a pandemic.

But hey, that's all part of making America great.

After blaming Obama for everything and Hillary who wasn't even elected, now you want to believe that the man in charge isn't to be blamed for anything??

You see the problem is that even if Trump is truly blameless for everything the only thing you can then surmise is that he is incapable of steering the country during disaster.

We need a president who can not only work wonders when they are handed to him on a silver platter but when disaster strikes as well.

So just ask yourself honestly

Tell this forum honestly

Does the state of the US, TODAY, make you happy, make you feel life in America is great again?

Trump has been at the wheel for nearly four years. If this is where we are at now, no liberal is gonna vote for another four.

You keep forgetting people vote their own best interest in many cases when undecided. And in many of those cases, they are better off under Trump.

Of course I’m not talking about the dedicated Dems who would vote for Bill Cosby over Trump. I mean the middle of the road Americans who are sick of both parties and see them for the people they are. And Biden isn’t offering them a compelling reason to vote for him at this point. However there is a long way to go and the debates will make or break Trump.

And spoiler alert, Trump will again lose the popular vote by a large margin.

[Darkoz]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The president did not allow the looting and rioting. The mayors and Governors of those liberal cities/states allowed it to happen. Thats where the blame lies. They fiddled as their towns burned. They made no moves to stop it when they controlled everything. Giving police stand down orders. Not bringing in the National Guard.

Then you lay the blame on the president, darkoz? People are not that stupid.

PS: The issue of police department defunding is also dividing liberals, some swearing they will not vote for Biden if he supports defunding.

It's sad that America right now has millions unemployed, race riots, police committing open murder on cell phone video, over 112,000 dead in three months from a pandemic.

But hey, that's all part of making America great.

After blaming Obama for everything and Hillary who wasn't even elected, now you want to believe that the man in charge isn't to be blamed for anything??

You see the problem is that even if Trump is truly blameless for everything the only thing you can then surmise is that he is incapable of steering the country during disaster.

We need a president who can not only work wonders when they are handed to him on a silver platter but when disaster strikes as well.

So just ask yourself honestly

Tell this forum honestly

Does the state of the US, TODAY, make you happy, make you feel life in America is great again?

Trump has been at the wheel for nearly four years. If this is where we are at now, no liberal is gonna vote for another four.

You keep forgetting people vote their own best interest in many cases when undecided. And in many of those cases, they are better off under Trump.

Of course I’m not talking about the dedicated Dems who would vote for Bill Cosby over Trump. I mean the middle of the road Americans who are sick of both parties and see them for the people they are. And Biden isn’t offering them a compelling reason to vote for him at this point. However there is a long way to go and the debates will make or break Trump.

And spoiler alert, Trump will again lose the popular vote by a large margin.

I don't think people are that undecided.

Trump supporters are decided.

Dems are decided.

Middle of the roaders probably were decided before the pandemic. They had four years to either warm up to Trump or learn to despise him.

The economy up till March may have swayed them despite their misgivings about trump. Now that horse has left.

Those undecided will have to ask if voting for the same guy in charge who has so many sick and dying and unemployed seems smart versus the unknown of Biden as president

[mickeycrimm]

I don't see how liberal business owners will move to Republican because of the looting.

Why wouldn't the leader of the country in the middle of race riots and looting (with a history of making racist comments) not be blamed by liberal business owners.

Flipping it, if a bunch of right-wing business owners were looted by 2nd amendment gun owners during a democratic presidency do you believe they would blame the party and vote Democrat?

I highly doubtful that. Pretty certain they would blame the Dem president. Likewise I am pretty certain Dem business owners who have been looted will not be switching their beliefs over this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The president did not allow the looting and rioting. The mayors and Governors of those liberal cities/states allowed it to happen. Thats where the blame lies. They fiddled as their towns burned. They made no moves to stop it when they controlled everything. Giving police stand down orders. Not bringing in the National Guard.

Then you lay the blame on the president, darkoz? People are not that stupid.

PS: The issue of police department defunding is also dividing liberals, some swearing they will not vote for Biden if he supports defunding.

It's sad that America right now has millions unemployed, race riots, police committing open murder on cell phone video, over 112,000 dead in three months from a pandemic.

But hey, that's all part of making America great.

After blaming Obama for everything and Hillary who wasn't even elected, now you want to believe that the man in charge isn't to be blamed for anything??

You see the problem is that even if Trump is truly blameless for everything the only thing you can then surmise is that he is incapable of steering the country during disaster.

We need a president who can not only work wonders when they are handed to him on a silver platter but when disaster strikes as well.

So just ask yourself honestly

Tell this forum honestly

Does the state of the US, TODAY, make you happy, make you feel life in America is great again?

Trump has been at the wheel for nearly four years. If this is where we are at now, no liberal is gonna vote for another four.

So I'm supposed to find faults with Trump? Why should I when we have lefties like you to invent all kinds of bullshit about Trump. You've already explained how you judge Trump harshly by his words. You've even said sarcastically some of his quotes will go down is history. I judge Trump by his actions. His actions will certainly go down in history to as he got more done his first year in office than most presidents get done in 8 years. And he continued getting results until now.

You, darkoz, will not acknowledge any of Trumps accomplishments. You deny he has any accomplishments at all. You may not like his accomplishments but they are accomplishments nonetheless. Because of that you have no credibility. But you want my side to come out and say he has faults. Fuck you.

[Darkoz]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The president did not allow the looting and rioting. The mayors and Governors of those liberal cities/states allowed it to happen. Thats where the blame lies. They fiddled as their towns burned. They made no moves to stop it when they controlled everything. Giving police stand down orders. Not bringing in the National Guard.

Then you lay the blame on the president, darkoz? People are not that stupid.

PS: The issue of police department defunding is also dividing liberals, some swearing they will not vote for Biden if he supports defunding.

It's sad that America right now has millions unemployed, race riots, police committing open murder on cell phone video, over 112,000 dead in three months from a pandemic.

But hey, that's all part of making America great.

After blaming Obama for everything and Hillary who wasn't even elected, now you want to believe that the man in charge isn't to be blamed for anything??

You see the problem is that even if Trump is truly blameless for everything the only thing you can then surmise is that he is incapable of steering the country during disaster.

We need a president who can not only work wonders when they are handed to him on a silver platter but when disaster strikes as well.

So just ask yourself honestly

Tell this forum honestly

Does the state of the US, TODAY, make you happy, make you feel life in America is great again?

Trump has been at the wheel for nearly four years. If this is where we are at now, no liberal is gonna vote for another four.

So I'm supposed to find faults with Trump? Why should I when we have lefties like you to invent all kinds of bullshit about Trump. You've already explained how you judge Trump harshly by his words. You've even said sarcastically some of his quotes will go down is history. I judge Trump by his actions. His actions will certainly go down in history to as he got more done his first year in office than most presidents get done in 8 years. And he continued getting results until now.

You, darkoz, will not acknowledge any of Trumps accomplishments. You deny he has any accomplishments at all. You may not like his accomplishments but they are accomplishments nonetheless. Because of that you have no credibility. But you want my side to come out and say he has faults. Fuck you.

The last two words of your post say everything.

I don't have to curse you out because my argument is sound.

You are asking voters to ignore America as is:

Race riots
Lockdowns
Looting
Pandemic
Highest unemployment EVER RECORDED

Because some things were achieved four years ago?

Again How do you feel about where America is today at this moment?

Do you feel we are at our best, our greatest?

Trump said elect him to make America great again. It's now time for re-election. He should be touting keeping America great. Not having to make it great one more time after it just went to shit in his own presidency

As of June 2020, America is demonstrably worse than when he took over.

I.E. anything he did four years ago has been wiped away

[mickeycrimm]

It's sad that America right now has millions unemployed, race riots, police committing open murder on cell phone video, over 112,000 dead in three months from a pandemic.

But hey, that's all part of making America great.

After blaming Obama for everything and Hillary who wasn't even elected, now you want to believe that the man in charge isn't to be blamed for anything??

You see the problem is that even if Trump is truly blameless for everything the only thing you can then surmise is that he is incapable of steering the country during disaster.

We need a president who can not only work wonders when they are handed to him on a silver platter but when disaster strikes as well.

So just ask yourself honestly

Tell this forum honestly

Does the state of the US, TODAY, make you happy, make you feel life in America is great again?

Trump has been at the wheel for nearly four years. If this is where we are at now, no liberal is gonna vote for another four.

So I'm supposed to find faults with Trump? Why should I when we have lefties like you to invent all kinds of bullshit about Trump. You've already explained how you judge Trump harshly by his words. You've even said sarcastically some of his quotes will go down is history. I judge Trump by his actions. His actions will certainly go down in history to as he got more done his first year in office than most presidents get done in 8 years. And he continued getting results until now.

You, darkoz, will not acknowledge any of Trumps accomplishments. You deny he has any accomplishments at all. You may not like his accomplishments but they are accomplishments nonetheless. Because of that you have no credibility. But you want my side to come out and say he has faults. Fuck you.

The last two words of your post say everything.

I don't have to curse you out because my argument is sound.

You are asking voters to ignore America as is:

Race riots
Lockdowns
Looting
Pandemic
Highest unemployment EVER RECORDED

Because some things were achieved four years ago?

Again How do you feel about where America is today at this moment?

Do you feel we are at our best, our greatest?

Trump said elect him to make America great again. It's now time for re-election. He should be touting keeping America great. Not having to make it great one more time after it just went to shit in his own presidency

As of June 2020, America is demonstrably worse than when he took over.

I.E. anything he did four years ago has been wiped away

Only kooks blame Trump for the pandemic. The lockdowns to flatten the curve turned into until we find a cure by hard lefties like yourself that wanted to destroy the economy to get rid of Trump. You forced business owners to stay shutdown for no reason then openly supported the "no social distancing riots." Terrible terrible people lefties are.

But everything is not, as you say, wiped away. Not even close. The stock market is back over 27K. The 150 judges are still in place. We are still the world's number one oil producer. We still have lower taxes and regulations. You totally ignore the jobs report for May. You have to do that because you can't give Trump credit for anything. 2.5 million new jobs.

Darkoz, you don't really think we are stupid enough to blame Trump for the left sabotaging the economy, do you? Trump will be the revival of the economy no matter how hard the left works to sabotage it.

[Darkoz]

So I'm supposed to find faults with Trump? Why should I when we have lefties like you to invent all kinds of bullshit about Trump. You've already explained how you judge Trump harshly by his words. You've even said sarcastically some of his quotes will go down is history. I judge Trump by his actions. His actions will certainly go down in history to as he got more done his first year in office than most presidents get done in 8 years. And he continued getting results until now.

You, darkoz, will not acknowledge any of Trumps accomplishments. You deny he has any accomplishments at all. You may not like his accomplishments but they are accomplishments nonetheless. Because of that you have no credibility. But you want my side to come out and say he has faults. Fuck you.

The last two words of your post say everything.

I don't have to curse you out because my argument is sound.

You are asking voters to ignore America as is:

Race riots
Lockdowns
Looting
Pandemic
Highest unemployment EVER RECORDED

Because some things were achieved four years ago?

Again How do you feel about where America is today at this moment?

Do you feel we are at our best, our greatest?

Trump said elect him to make America great again. It's now time for re-election. He should be touting keeping America great. Not having to make it great one more time after it just went to shit in his own presidency

As of June 2020, America is demonstrably worse than when he took over.

I.E. anything he did four years ago has been wiped away

Only kooks blame Trump for the pandemic. The lockdowns to flatten the curve turned into until we find a cure by hard lefties like yourself that wanted to destroy the economy to get rid of Trump. You forced business owners to stay shutdown for no reason then openly supported the "no social distancing riots." Terrible terrible people lefties are.

But everything is not, as you say, wiped away. Not even close. The stock market is back over 27K. The 150 judges are still in place. We are still the world's number one oil producer. We still have lower taxes and regulations. You totally ignore the jobs report for May. You have to do that because you can't give Trump credit for anything. 2.5 million new jobs.

Darkoz, you don't really think we are stupid enough to blame Trump for the left sabotaging the economy, do you? Trump will be the revival of the economy no matter how hard the left works to sabotage it.

Most likely any president would have a tough time dealing with the pandemic.

Unfortunately when the boat hits the iceberg the captain goes down with the ship.

Enjoy the sinking!

2 million jobs added after 20 million lost isn't something to be bragging about.

People who lost their jobs don't care how many judges were appointed or how well the stock market is doing while they are on unemployment

[mickeycrimm]

Constant CV fear monger RED is over at the Wizards place talking about a trip to Vegas in July. But of course he adds he thinks we will be in the 2nd wave then and he probably won’t go. And he won’t ride an elevator.

It appears there is some doubt in his mind since he is even considering a trip.

But no comment on why we haven’t seen this “wave” yet. The protesting has been going on for 2 weeks now. Same with Memorial Day. We have been open in Florida for over a month now.

And the average age of the dead is still well over 75.

The way he plays both sides and is wrong all the time I feel for those who buy his picks this year. Actually no I don’t. Anyone who buys picks from a blog deserves what they get.

Meanwhile America is partying like its 1918 all over again.

I think redietz is expecting a spike in CV cases by the 3rd week of June because of the no social distancing protests/looting/riots.

[mickeycrimm]

The last two words of your post say everything.

I don't have to curse you out because my argument is sound.

You are asking voters to ignore America as is:

Race riots
Lockdowns
Looting
Pandemic
Highest unemployment EVER RECORDED

Because some things were achieved four years ago?

Again How do you feel about where America is today at this moment?

Do you feel we are at our best, our greatest?

Trump said elect him to make America great again. It's now time for re-election. He should be touting keeping America great. Not having to make it great one more time after it just went to shit in his own presidency

As of June 2020, America is demonstrably worse than when he took over.

I.E. anything he did four years ago has been wiped away

Only kooks blame Trump for the pandemic. The lockdowns to flatten the curve turned into until we find a cure by hard lefties like yourself that wanted to destroy the economy to get rid of Trump. You forced business owners to stay shutdown for no reason then openly supported the "no social distancing riots." Terrible terrible people lefties are.

But everything is not, as you say, wiped away. Not even close. The stock market is back over 27K. The 150 judges are still in place. We are still the world's number one oil producer. We still have lower taxes and regulations. You totally ignore the jobs report for May. You have to do that because you can't give Trump credit for anything. 2.5 million new jobs.

Darkoz, you don't really think we are stupid enough to blame Trump for the left sabotaging the economy, do you? Trump will be the revival of the economy no matter how hard the left works to sabotage it.

Most likely any president would have a tough time dealing with the pandemic.

Unfortunately when the boat hits the iceberg the captain goes down with the ship.

Enjoy the sinking!

2 million jobs added after 20 million lost isn't something to be bragging about.

People who lost their jobs don't care how many judges were appointed or how well the stock market is doing while they are on unemployment

Darkoz, you are cluthing at straws in coming up with reasons to get rid of Trump. When it comes to rebuilding the economy the left knows absolutely nothing about how to do it. All they know how to do is stifle an economy. Trump knows how to build an economy. That's precisely why we need him for another 4 years.

[redietz]

Constant CV fear monger RED is over at the Wizards place talking about a trip to Vegas in July. But of course he adds he thinks we will be in the 2nd wave then and he probably won’t go. And he won’t ride an elevator.

It appears there is some doubt in his mind since he is even considering a trip.

But no comment on why we haven’t seen this “wave” yet. The protesting has been going on for 2 weeks now. Same with Memorial Day. We have been open in Florida for over a month now.

And the average age of the dead is still well over 75.

The way he plays both sides and is wrong all the time I feel for those who buy his picks this year. Actually no I don’t. Anyone who buys picks from a blog deserves what they get.

Meanwhile America is partying like its 1918 all over again.

Boz, try at least to have some integrity (inside joke). If you ever see where I say the "2nd wave" will hit then, I will pay you 10K, no questions asked.

You see, this is the third month of a pandemic. Pandemics usually don't end in two or three or six months or nine months. Parts of the U.S. haven't experienced the first wave yet. But that first wave is now hitting Arkansas and Florida and Texas and Tennessee and North Carolina.

There's no trick to this. New York, New Jersey, and Illinois are feeling their end of the first wave. The first wave has just started for most (geographically) of the country. Take Tennessee, for example. Tennessee is up 70% the last week, but we're allowing parades and sporting events. The first wave is just arriving. Should be entertaining.

Now I bothered to post this because you were egregiously wrong. When you find a direct quote of mine that has actually been equally egregiously wrong, feel free to direct quote it. I notice, however, that you tend to paraphrase and not directly quote me. Tsk tsk. No integrity in paraphrasing, Boz.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/u...s-casinos.html

If LV futures are radically better than offshore, I make the trip. That's what I do for my partners. I can handle the protocols needed better than most. Do I want to? No, I don't. But I'll do it. Las Vegas may be a mess by the end of July. Hard to tell. One of my friends beat the NYTimes by two months, calling the LV casinos, "cruise ships on land."

You folks who think COVID-19 is in the rear view mirror are believing what you prefer to believe. Quote me on that. Directly. We are three months into a 24-month marathon. Quote me on that, too. The pandemic has just begun. And no, the protesting sure didn't help matters. Probably lose five digits in lives just from the protests when it's all over.

For anyone with a brain out there, there are reports from Italy that the virus seems to be generating somewhat different effects as it settles into the populations. The viral load per person, and thus the contagiousness and deadliness seems to be reducing the longer it's been embedded in a population. Also, folks have figured out that classic intubation doesn't help much for those most ill. These are the benefits of flattening the curve and having instituted shutdowns. You get to learn what you're dealing with while not overwhelming the health care system.

Now, Boz, 21 months from now, one of us will have been right, and one of us will have been wrong. Good luck.

[Darkoz]

Only kooks blame Trump for the pandemic. The lockdowns to flatten the curve turned into until we find a cure by hard lefties like yourself that wanted to destroy the economy to get rid of Trump. You forced business owners to stay shutdown for no reason then openly supported the "no social distancing riots." Terrible terrible people lefties are.

But everything is not, as you say, wiped away. Not even close. The stock market is back over 27K. The 150 judges are still in place. We are still the world's number one oil producer. We still have lower taxes and regulations. You totally ignore the jobs report for May. You have to do that because you can't give Trump credit for anything. 2.5 million new jobs.

Darkoz, you don't really think we are stupid enough to blame Trump for the left sabotaging the economy, do you? Trump will be the revival of the economy no matter how hard the left works to sabotage it.

Most likely any president would have a tough time dealing with the pandemic.

Unfortunately when the boat hits the iceberg the captain goes down with the ship.

Enjoy the sinking!

2 million jobs added after 20 million lost isn't something to be bragging about.

People who lost their jobs don't care how many judges were appointed or how well the stock market is doing while they are on unemployment

Darkoz, you are cluthing at straws in coming up with reasons to get rid of Trump. When it comes to rebuilding the economy the left knows absolutely nothing about how to do it. All they know how to do is stifle an economy. Trump knows how to build an economy. That's precisely why we need him for another 4 years.

We are entering another recession due to the pandemic

Regardless of the reasons

Our last recession occurred in October/November of 2008

Um, which party had a president in the white House?

Now we are facing another recession

Um, which party has a president in the white house?

[MaxPen]

This is what makes this forum great. A hobo that had his medical tab picked up by the State because of his irresponsible lifestyle choices taking the position of the right. Then an ex homeless bus bench bum taking the position of the left.
I would say that our overlords have achieved victory when you have 2 birds of the same feather facing off with each other. United we stand; Divided we fall. At least this forum allows us to see into the reality of the rediculousness of our world today......GOAT

[mickeycrimm]

This is what makes this forum great. A hobo that had his medical tab picked up by the State because of his irresponsible lifestyle choices taking the position of the right. Then an ex homeless bus bench bum taking the position of the left.
I would say that our overlords have achieved victory when you have 2 birds of the same feather facing off with each other. United we stand; Divided we fall. At least this forum allows us to see into the reality of the rediculousness of our world today......GOAT

I want those SS checks to keep rolling in so you keep working maxpenis, that is, when you are not packing KJocchio in the ass, Mr. rump roaster. Or do you even pay SS?

KJocchio has never mentioned paying FICO tax. And he wants us all to believe he had a healthcare policy with pre-existing conditions before Obamacare. Bullshit. Medicaid payed his hospital bill.

[mickeycrimm]

It's sad that America right now has millions unemployed, race riots, police committing open murder on cell phone video, over 112,000 dead in three months from a pandemic.

But hey, that's all part of making America great.

After blaming Obama for everything and Hillary who wasn't even elected, now you want to believe that the man in charge isn't to be blamed for anything??

You see the problem is that even if Trump is truly blameless for everything the only thing you can then surmise is that he is incapable of steering the country during disaster.

We need a president who can not only work wonders when they are handed to him on a silver platter but when disaster strikes as well.

So just ask yourself honestly

Tell this forum honestly

Does the state of the US, TODAY, make you happy, make you feel life in America is great again?

Trump has been at the wheel for nearly four years. If this is where we are at now, no liberal is gonna vote for another four.

You keep forgetting people vote their own best interest in many cases when undecided. And in many of those cases, they are better off under Trump.

Of course I’m not talking about the dedicated Dems who would vote for Bill Cosby over Trump. I mean the middle of the road Americans who are sick of both parties and see them for the people they are. And Biden isn’t offering them a compelling reason to vote for him at this point. However there is a long way to go and the debates will make or break Trump.

And spoiler alert, Trump will again lose the popular vote by a large margin.

I don't think people are that undecided.

Trump supporters are decided.

Dems are decided.

Middle of the roaders probably were decided before the pandemic. They had four years to either warm up to Trump or learn to despise him.

The economy up till March may have swayed them despite their misgivings about trump. Now that horse has left.

Those undecided will have to ask if voting for the same guy in charge who has so many sick and dying and unemployed seems smart versus the unknown of Biden as president

We need Trump to get the economy back to where it was pre pandemic. He knows how to do it. If you want to see sick, dying, unemployed for years then vote for China Joe Biden.

[Darkoz]

You keep forgetting people vote their own best interest in many cases when undecided. And in many of those cases, they are better off under Trump.

Of course I’m not talking about the dedicated Dems who would vote for Bill Cosby over Trump. I mean the middle of the road Americans who are sick of both parties and see them for the people they are. And Biden isn’t offering them a compelling reason to vote for him at this point. However there is a long way to go and the debates will make or break Trump.

And spoiler alert, Trump will again lose the popular vote by a large margin.

I don't think people are that undecided.

Trump supporters are decided.

Dems are decided.

Middle of the roaders probably were decided before the pandemic. They had four years to either warm up to Trump or learn to despise him.

The economy up till March may have swayed them despite their misgivings about trump. Now that horse has left.

Those undecided will have to ask if voting for the same guy in charge who has so many sick and dying and unemployed seems smart versus the unknown of Biden as president

We need Trump to get the economy back to where it was pre pandemic. He knows how to do it. If you want to see sick, dying, unemployed for years then vote for China Joe Biden.

Yes, a man who has had several bankruptcies should always be looked at as an expert in growing economy

And what happened to the ballooning deficit you were so concerned about with Obama as president?

[Bob21]

I don't think people are that undecided.

Trump supporters are decided.

Dems are decided.

Middle of the roaders probably were decided before the pandemic. They had four years to either warm up to Trump or learn to despise him.

The economy up till March may have swayed them despite their misgivings about trump. Now that horse has left.

Those undecided will have to ask if voting for the same guy in charge who has so many sick and dying and unemployed seems smart versus the unknown of Biden as president

We need Trump to get the economy back to where it was pre pandemic. He knows how to do it. If you want to see sick, dying, unemployed for years then vote for China Joe Biden.

Yes, a man who has had several bankruptcies should always be looked at as an expert in growing economy

And what happened to the ballooning deficit you were so concerned about with Obama as president?

Darkoz, do you know how to say anything except the typical cliche Democrat liberal statements?

And for the record that is a completely false statement, but I know liberals use it all the time. Trump has never committed personal bankruptcy. He's owned a lot of companies and, yes, some have gone bankrupt. That's something completely different. Most business men who have owned a lot of companies will have had a couple of them go bankrupt. This is what happens in a capitalist system.

Using your logic, Warren Buffet (a liberal) has had several bankruptcies, since companies he's owned through the stock market have gone bankrupt.

Do any of you liberals ever think for yourself, or do you just regurgitate the talking points from the Democrat party?