Page 235 of 501 FirstFirst ... 135185225231232233234235236237238239245285335 ... LastLast
Results 4,681 to 4,700 of 10013

Thread: The WoV Thread

  1. #4681
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post

    TP - Amen to your original post. Six short months ago we had an historically low unemployment and a raging economy. Biden's chances of beating Trump were so bleak that there were whispers of him being replaced because well, Captain Alzheimer wasn't (isn't) up to the task. Fast forward to now, with recession and covid and it's all Trump's fault. Meanwhile Joe still has dementia and Oz thinks everything is going to be better with him. Strange times.
    Thanks Danny. Great points on Biden.

    Best, TP.

  2. #4682
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post

    So basically you are saying Trump is easily fooled into believing a hoax and doesn't know how to do due diligence.

    And his gullibility led to a terrible situation for the country.

    Hundreds of thousands dead and an economic disaster.

    And you feel this qualifies him to remain president
    If you don't agree it was a hoax then you are saying that Trump's approach of warning that the virus was bad during his press conferences was appropriate and that consequently he should be re-elected. If you do think it was a hoax we agree. We also agree that it is an economic disaster. I feel that this economic disaster will kill more lives than the Covid-19 virus and that Trump is more likely to not get re-elected as a result. Anyhow, it was a crazy thing he did of believing the CDC and Fauci in regards to their infectious disease expertise rather than his own extensive infectious disease expertise. After all, Trump spent years in medical school and is an expert in Virology, so he should have gone with his own instincts here rather than believing Fauci and the CDC.
    It's clearly pointless to discuss further with someone who knows nothing but bullshit.

    Someone who believes 120,000 people are not really dead from a virus in America and that there is a worldwide hoax being perpetrated by every country in the world

    Or that believes Trump has any type of medical training and is an expert in virology (where do you even come up with that one. Makes me wonder if the Trump movement is just a troll movement)
    You obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.
    When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).

  3. #4683
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    If you don't agree it was a hoax then you are saying that Trump's approach of warning that the virus was bad during his press conferences was appropriate and that consequently he should be re-elected. If you do think it was a hoax we agree. We also agree that it is an economic disaster. I feel that this economic disaster will kill more lives than the Covid-19 virus and that Trump is more likely to not get re-elected as a result. Anyhow, it was a crazy thing he did of believing the CDC and Fauci in regards to their infectious disease expertise rather than his own extensive infectious disease expertise. After all, Trump spent years in medical school and is an expert in Virology, so he should have gone with his own instincts here rather than believing Fauci and the CDC.
    It's clearly pointless to discuss further with someone who knows nothing but bullshit.

    Someone who believes 120,000 people are not really dead from a virus in America and that there is a worldwide hoax being perpetrated by every country in the world

    Or that believes Trump has any type of medical training and is an expert in virology (where do you even come up with that one. Makes me wonder if the Trump movement is just a troll movement)
    You obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.
    When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).

    The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.

    The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.

    I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html

  4. #4684
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    If you don't agree it was a hoax then you are saying that Trump's approach of warning that the virus was bad during his press conferences was appropriate and that consequently he should be re-elected. If you do think it was a hoax we agree. We also agree that it is an economic disaster. I feel that this economic disaster will kill more lives than the Covid-19 virus and that Trump is more likely to not get re-elected as a result. Anyhow, it was a crazy thing he did of believing the CDC and Fauci in regards to their infectious disease expertise rather than his own extensive infectious disease expertise. After all, Trump spent years in medical school and is an expert in Virology, so he should have gone with his own instincts here rather than believing Fauci and the CDC.
    It's clearly pointless to discuss further with someone who knows nothing but bullshit.

    Someone who believes 120,000 people are not really dead from a virus in America and that there is a worldwide hoax being perpetrated by every country in the world

    Or that believes Trump has any type of medical training and is an expert in virology (where do you even come up with that one. Makes me wonder if the Trump movement is just a troll movement)
    You obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.
    When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).
    Lol, I actually thought you were serious about Trump being an expert on virology.

    Glad to see that's just humor.

    I don't believe the lockdown Carnage was done to get rid of Trump.

    I live in NYC and when it was climbing exponentially here many places shutdown on their own. Had nothing to with politics.

    Of course, there are always some people on both sides of the aisle which will do some politicking moves.

    But neither Trump nor liberals created or wanted this virus issue.

    Trump still has a chance to pull a victory here. Find a treatment before the election and significantly before. By late summer end I would say.

    He might be in luck as I am following a drug that is really close. (I invested in it on the stock market for full disclosure). I believe in it that much.

    Even if it helps Trump get re-elected that's fine. I want the country back on track without fear of Coronavirus

  5. #4685
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post

    It's clearly pointless to discuss further with someone who knows nothing but bullshit.

    Someone who believes 120,000 people are not really dead from a virus in America and that there is a worldwide hoax being perpetrated by every country in the world

    Or that believes Trump has any type of medical training and is an expert in virology (where do you even come up with that one. Makes me wonder if the Trump movement is just a troll movement)
    You obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.
    When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).

    The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.

    The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.

    I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
    Why does this guy keep linking blogs from an alt-left hate site pretending to be about gambling?

  6. #4686
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Why does this guy keep linking blogs from an alt-left hate site pretending to be about gambling?
    Times are Difficult for this Shyster as Sports Wagering has Imploded!

  7. #4687
    Even Broke Billy is pointing out that the majority of posters from just a few years ago are gone at WoV. He also stated he felt the Wizard appears to not even want to be there anyone.

    Tough times for the “Man of Integrity”. Is it any wonder he let KJ back after saying he was Dead to Him?

  8. #4688
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Even Broke Billy is pointing out that the majority of posters from just a few years ago are gone at WoV. He also stated he felt the Wizard appears to not even want to be there anyone.

    Tough times for the “Man of Integrity”. Is it any wonder he let KJ back after saying he was Dead to Him?
    Prediction:. Billy leaves WOV and starts posting here.

    Wouldn't you guys love that

  9. #4689
    I'm curious why he asked about ZG and Zenzone.

  10. #4690
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.

    The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.

    I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
    The CV count is notoriously corrupt. And you completely ignore the millions of deaths of children worldwide the causation of which is the extreme poverty they are subjected to because of the economic shutdown. STOOOOOOOOPPIIIDDDDD!!!!

    Oh, and FUCK YOUR BLOG. It's nothing but socialist bullshit.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #4691
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.

    The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.

    I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
    The CV count is notoriously corrupt. And you completely ignore the millions of deaths of children worldwide the causation of which is the extreme poverty they are subjected to because of the economic shutdown. STOOOOOOOOPPIIIDDDDD!!!!

    Oh, and FUCK YOUR BLOG. It's nothing but socialist bullshit.
    Millions of children starved from shutdown? Link please to legit article!

    Oh and still waiting for links to violence inside CHAZ that you claimed were posted on YouTube

    Are you just going to keep making up bullshit with no proof?

  12. #4692
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post


    The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.

    The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.

    I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
    You are stating on the one hand that we should allow the data to come in order to make conclusions but then also stating in the same post that you already know that the Covid-19 deaths are an undercount and that "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts (and I assume you mean that they will be much smaller than the virus death counts although you don't state this explicitly). Since you already know what will happen, I don't see why we need to wait for the data to come in.
    Last edited by tableplay; 06-18-2020 at 04:35 PM.

  13. #4693
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Even Broke Billy is pointing out that the majority of posters from just a few years ago are gone at WoV. He also stated he felt the Wizard appears to not even want to be there anyone.

    Tough times for the “Man of Integrity”. Is it any wonder he let KJ back after saying he was Dead to Him?
    Prediction:. Billy leaves WOV and starts posting here.

    Wouldn't you guys love that
    I would welcome him but I don’t see it ever happening. I hope I’m wrong.

  14. #4694
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post

    Millions of children starved from shutdown?
    Who knows, considering how many kids depend on the free lunch program at school for there only meals.

  15. #4695
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post

    Millions of children starved from shutdown?
    Who knows, considering how many kids depend on the free lunch program at school for there only meals.
    Since I know families that have kids who depend on the free lunch programs at school I can tell you the ones Inhave spoken too switched to either home meal delivery or became eligible for a temporary food stamp status.

    And yes, lol, under a republican president. But I am not for letting kids starve so I agree with that.

    Let's face it, hardly anyone is starving in America. We have too many umbrellas in our system. Posters on here just like to imagine fake arguments because it's the only way they can win

  16. #4696
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Even Broke Billy is pointing out that the majority of posters from just a few years ago are gone at WoV. He also stated he felt the Wizard appears to not even want to be there anyone.

    Tough times for the “Man of Integrity”. Is it any wonder he let KJ back after saying he was Dead to Him?
    Prediction:. Billy leaves WOV and starts posting here.

    Wouldn't you guys love that
    It would be interesting to see Fatboy here, his skin is not thick enough, to take the heat, he will receive over here.

  17. #4697
    Gold LMR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Location
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xA2VqPvBnQ
    Posts
    555
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    It would be interesting to see Fatboy here, his skin is not thick enough, to take the heat, he will receive over here.
    Don't shit in the candy box. Lol.

    Name:  
Views: 
Size:

  18. #4698
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post


    The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.

    The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.

    I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
    You are stating on the one hand that we should allow the data to come in order to make conclusions but then also stating in the same post that you already know that the Covid-19 deaths are an undercount and that "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts (and I assume you mean that they will be much smaller than the virus death counts although you don't state this explicitly). Since you already know what will happen, I don't see why we need to wait for the data to come in.
    If you have seen the overall U.S. mortality data through the first week in May, which I did not post (but you should be able to find), the U.S. is running way, way over the usual mortality figures. So I'm comfortable (for me) saying that it's a blatant undercount of COVID deaths. For somebody arguing the other side, not sure a huge bulge in U.S. deaths through the first week in May would be absolutely lock convincing, so just wait until it's all sorted out in two years.

    Look, if Fauci and every other leading epidemiologist has said it's an undercount of deaths, and international studies show consistent undercounts, why would any civilian decide it's an overcount?

  19. #4699
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post


    The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.

    The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.

    I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
    You are stating on the one hand that we should allow the data to come in order to make conclusions but then also stating in the same post that you already know that the Covid-19 deaths are an undercount and that "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts (and I assume you mean that they will be much smaller than the virus death counts although you don't state this explicitly). Since you already know what will happen, I don't see why we need to wait for the data to come in.
    If you have seen the overall U.S. mortality data through the first week in May, which I did not post (but you should be able to find), the U.S. is running way, way over the usual mortality figures. So I'm comfortable (for me) saying that it's a blatant undercount of COVID deaths. For somebody arguing the other side, not sure a huge bulge in U.S. deaths through the first week in May would be absolutely lock convincing, so just wait until it's all sorted out in two years.

    Look, if Fauci and every other leading epidemiologist has said it's an undercount of deaths, and international studies show consistent undercounts, why would any civilian decide it's an overcount?
    It's the only way to get their Trumpdummy re-elected. To minimize how many people died because he lied to them about how serious Covid-19 was and then pumped them full of Hope with Bleach, Lysol and Hydroxychloriquine as hoax cures

  20. #4700
    I guess all the protesting and looting made all those Chink Virus numbers go down.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 72 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 72 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. The Genealogy Thread
    By mickeycrimm in forum Las Vegas
    Replies: 115
    Last Post: 04-27-2018, 06:29 AM
  2. Closed Thread
    By coach belly in forum Las Vegas
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 01-30-2017, 08:29 PM
  3. Sportsbetting ONLY thread
    By LoneStarHorse in forum Sports & Sportsbetting
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 02-05-2016, 04:48 PM
  4. A thread for losses.
    By Alan Mendelson in forum Las Vegas
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 03-26-2014, 02:01 AM
  5. The Kicker Thread
    By Rob.Singer in forum Las Vegas
    Replies: 48
    Last Post: 01-12-2014, 02:24 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •