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  1. #5141
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    If you had worked a normal job, saying you had $1million saved wouldn't be seen as "BS" at all. Y.
    If it makes you feel better to claim Americans with "normal" jobs have million dollar bank accounts go right ahead and feel better. You are living in a fantasy
    Rob Singer living in an alternate reality or fantasy world? Hum, never heard THAT one before.

    I am sure Rob would post proof of his claim if asked. He could post a bank statement showing 7 figures. It won't have the bank's logo on it and may be handwritten in his own handwriting, but he could post that "proof".

    Maybe for credibility he could get the "infamous squeegee" in the same picture as the handwritten bank statement.

  2. #5142
    I understand if a person found themselves on the balls of their ass like DarkOz, living off the streets of NYC, finding shelter in the holes dug for subways, along with sleeping while endlessly traveling to nowhere on the trains throughout the nights; how lonely and devastating an effect that might be to ones ego and psychological programming. Most of these types of unfortunate conditions usually combine with drug and alcohol abuse to ease the fear and pain of being such a loser.

    His past might explain after discovering Advantage Casino Play, (regardless how large or small the profits might be) it was like going from a VW to a Rolls Royce when compared to begging on the streets of NYC.

    Imagine going through life endlessly following assorted casinos for free play offers? Imagine the type of desperate people you need to endlessly find willing to take the needless risk of handing over their personal information to a fucking moron like DarkOz for a couple a pesos or free gifts a month? God only knows where you could find these types of people. I’m thinking more than likely the same type of people we see all over our TV’s recently killing, looting, and burning down other people’s wealth. Imagine going through life not being able to count on the next months income due to a simple policy change of a casinos marketing plans.

    So, for a guy like DarkOz to come here and brag how he makes all this money doing this stuff, it becomes obvious his past corrupts his view of life and drives him into a fantasy frame of mind trying to convince anonymous people of his alleged self-proclaimed life’s achievements.

    All these alleged anonymous AP claims of success on these sites are as much of a fantasy as this mental patient Dark-Oz’s claims. No doubt there are well published confirmed successful casino AP plays. But the anonymous bullshit we read on these anonymous forums is second to none when it comes to bullshit.

    I also wonder where this family of his was that he talks about while he was forced to be a homeless bum.

    And what good would a post about an alleged AP bragging about all of his alleged profits be without an appearance from the self-proclaimed King of AP’s AXELWOLF the AP messiah himself, casting doubts about another alleged AP’s claims or in other words, how dare you try to out do me and make me look bad on my forums.

    Do you remember that old saying believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see? I think these gambling sites go one step further. Believe nothing you hear and nothing of what you see on any of them. Full time gamblers are full time bullshit artists, snakes, two-timing, scamming, lying, cheating con-artists.

    Regardless what you say or claim Dark-Oz you can’t escape the above facts. LOL

  3. #5143
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    I understand if a person found themselves on the balls of their ass like DarkOz, living off the streets of NYC, finding shelter in the holes dug for subways, along with sleeping while endlessly traveling to nowhere on the trains throughout the nights; how lonely and devastating an effect that might be to ones ego and psychological programming. Most of these types of unfortunate conditions usually combine with drug and alcohol abuse to ease the fear and pain of being such a loser.

    His past might explain after discovering Advantage Casino Play, (regardless how large or small the profits might be) it was like going from a VW to a Rolls Royce when compared to begging on the streets of NYC.

    Imagine going through life endlessly following assorted casinos for free play offers? Imagine the type of desperate people you need to endlessly find willing to take the needless risk of handing over their personal information to a fucking moron like DarkOz for a couple a pesos or free gifts a month? God only knows where you could find these types of people. I’m thinking more than likely the same type of people we see all over our TV’s recently killing, looting, and burning down other people’s wealth. Imagine going through life not being able to count on the next months income due to a simple policy change of a casinos marketing plans.

    So, for a guy like DarkOz to come here and brag how he makes all this money doing this stuff, it becomes obvious his past corrupts his view of life and drives him into a fantasy frame of mind trying to convince anonymous people of his alleged self-proclaimed life’s achievements.

    All these alleged anonymous AP claims of success on these sites are as much of a fantasy as this mental patient Dark-Oz’s claims. No doubt there are well published confirmed successful casino AP plays. But the anonymous bullshit we read on these anonymous forums is second to none when it comes to bullshit.

    I also wonder where this family of his was that he talks about while he was forced to be a homeless bum.

    And what good would a post about an alleged AP bragging about all of his alleged profits be without an appearance from the self-proclaimed King of AP’s AXELWOLF the AP messiah himself, casting doubts about another alleged AP’s claims or in other words, how dare you try to out do me and make me look bad on my forums.

    Do you remember that old saying believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see? I think these gambling sites go one step further. Believe nothing you hear and nothing of what you see on any of them. Full time gamblers are full time bullshit artists, snakes, two-timing, scamming, lying, cheating con-artists.

    Regardless what you say or claim Dark-Oz you can’t escape the above facts. LOL
    You got some of the facts wrong lol

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    Well, I think that Bozo shit himself, yesterday, was drunk or something, so the coast is clear. Ha.

    P.S. Watch out for the RaMbLers.
    Last edited by LMR; 07-11-2020 at 10:59 AM.
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    Shut it down, LMR. = Low Mind thRust, (invar.)

    555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.

    3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.

  5. #5145
    Despite, my reputation, I don't call most people out on their claims. I have called out 3 people because I found those claims to be ridiculously egregious. Most I keep my opinion to myself, as I have done with DarkOz claims.

    So don't take this as defense of DarkOz claims because it is not, BUT, he never said he made a million dollars a year. He said he made 20k one week.

    Frankly my assumption was that he had 20k worth of FP for that particular week and managed to not lose too much in playing it through. While he didn't say it, I assumed this was a very A-typical week. Now he is claiming he has a number of these weeks at this particular time.

    When my partner and I were doing fairly significant machine play to generate free play through mailers, there were cycles. You would hit any given casino with a big play and receive an initial big mailer amount and then diminishing amounts for several months. Then you would skip play for a month or two on that card and and hit them with another big play to regenerate the cycle. So, I took it that Dark Oz may have been at the top of the cycle at this particular time, that he stated 20k. Just my guess.

    Here is the one question I have. Dark Oz you said you made 20k last week or for what ever week mentioned. Are you allowing for cost to generate that free play? In other words, if your initial play to generate that 20k free play cost say 4k, the net is 16k. Are you allowing for that and talking "net" or just saying you have 20k free play for a week or number of weeks?

  6. #5146
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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Despite, my reputation, I don't call most people out on their claims.
    As Bart would say, "Who the hell are you?"

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Just my guess.
    This is a very specific phrase. In my experience, persons who say stuff like, "My own rational assumption," are, well, full of it. Anyway, why make assumptions about things you have already done for yourself?
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    555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.

    3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.

  7. #5147
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Despite, my reputation, I don't call most people out on their claims. I have called out 3 people because I found those claims to be ridiculously egregious. Most I keep my opinion to myself, as I have done with DarkOz claims.

    So don't take this as defense of DarkOz claims because it is not, BUT, he never said he made a million dollars a year. He said he made 20k one week.

    Frankly my assumption was that he had 20k worth of FP for that particular week and managed to not lose too much in playing it through. While he didn't say it, I assumed this was a very A-typical week. Now he is claiming he has a number of these weeks at this particular time.

    When my partner and I were doing fairly significant machine play to generate free play through mailers, there were cycles. You would hit any given casino with a big play and receive an initial big mailer amount and then diminishing amounts for several months. Then you would skip play for a month or two on that card and and hit them with another big play to regenerate the cycle. So, I took it that Dark Oz may have been at the top of the cycle at this particular time, that he stated 20k. Just my guess.

    Here is the one question I have. Dark Oz you said you made 20k last week or for what ever week mentioned. Are you allowing for cost to generate that free play? In other words, if your initial play to generate that 20k free play cost say 4k, the net is 16k. Are you allowing for that and talking "net" or just saying you have 20k free play for a week or number of weeks?
    Specifically for the here and now I generated $25,000 in freeplay for March.

    .I got two weeks before the shutdown for Covid-19 and recouped my investment at that time.

    The offers were re-instated (there was always a concern if that would happen) so now I am in profit mode.
    .last week's$25,000 FP turned into $22,000 plus but I paid people to do my pickups. I paid for an overnight on July fourth. So there were expenses.

    .I made over $20,000 but rounded it down. It wasn't much more. A few hundred over

  8. #5148
    Originally Posted by LMR View Post
    Well, I think that Bozo shit himself, yesterday, was drunk or something, so the coast is clear. Ha.

    P.S. Watch out for the RaMbLers.

    What the fuck you talking about jackass? I’m not here 24/7 or even everyday. I post a lot on travel days and sometimes others when bored.
    Last edited by The Boz; 07-11-2020 at 12:51 PM.

  9. #5149
    Here’s another case of another mental patient on these forums seeking attention at all costs. Kewlj

    Looks like his dream site WOV is taking a nose dive. It should have been obvious to Kewlj the only reason SadShack let him back was with the hopes of boosting the daily dive in ratings. Instead of Kewlj taking the opportunity to tell SadShack to fuck off after what he allegedly did to him, he couldn’t avoid what he thought would be an opportunity for more needed exposure for self-esteem along with another place for dreaming up more fairy-tales. (Pun not intended)

    Notice how he injects himself into threads with temporary action from site to site speaking like some type of authoritarian on assorted matters being discussed.

    After trashing this place for years he’ll still revisit if it means more attention, even though he still remains anonymous. That’s signs of a truly sick mother fucking weirdo.

    AxelWolf, Dark Oz, Kewlj, just to name a few, I’m sure that puts everything into a nut shell about these forums.

  10. #5150
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Here’s another case of another mental patient on these forums seeking attention at all costs. Kewlj

    Looks like his dream site WOV is taking a nose dive. It should have been obvious to Kewlj the only reason SadShack let him back was with the hopes of boosting the daily dive in ratings. Instead of Kewlj taking the opportunity to tell SadShack to fuck off after what he allegedly did to him, he couldn’t avoid what he thought would be an opportunity for more needed exposure for self-esteem along with another place for dreaming up more fairy-tales. (Pun not intended)

    Notice how he injects himself into threads with temporary action from site to site speaking like some type of authoritarian on assorted matters being discussed.

    After trashing this place for years he’ll still revisit if it means more attention, even though he still remains anonymous. That’s signs of a truly sick mother fucking weirdo.

    AxelWolf, Dark Oz, Kewlj, just to name a few, I’m sure that puts everything into a nut shell about these forums.
    1) Not sure what's wrong with seeking attention.

    2) anyone who repeatedly posts negative things about people seeking attention is doing so that other people may hear them.

    In other words you are seeking attention too

  11. #5151
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    I never said I made a mil a year. I said I make about $20,000 a week.
    What's the difference between claiming to make $20K a week and claiming to make $1M a year?

    Didn't the Wolf of Wall Street say that he was upset when he made fifty million one year because he couldn't then claim that he made a million a week?

    Except in your case you now added all sorts of asterisks to your claim, stating that it refers to gross revenues only, alluding to expenses, inability to maintain that level consistently, and most confusingly, now claim that you "hope" to bring in $20K gross revenue on some weeks.

    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    The better question is does grabbing freeplay and life lways go without a hitch.

    Bit there have been setbacks along the road.

    A major burglary last year was one of them.
    So now it's been a brutal year and a half.

    Yet I still had enough money to take care of my family through the months of lockdown and even invest some into the stock market.

    I keep it real. If everything is perfect I make $20,000 a week
    In a roundabout way DarkO just repeated what I said in the first place,
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    And even if it WERE possible, bringing in an army of new players weekly, both these new players and the "workers" he mentions who are assuming the identities of the new players, would need to get paid, so he personally still wouldn't be netting anywhere near what he claims.
    although he is still not mentioning the actual cost of doing business.

    Why not just tell it like it is. I mean, I don't post about what I "expect" to book on a day's trade, I just post the trade after it is concluded.

    Better yet, tell us exactly what you are doing because I know this is what you truly wish to do. Tell all! Why be intimidated by these others into revealing only half truths, especially if you are indeed the Most Feared and the casinos already know what you and everyone else are doing. This is VCT, where free speech reigns. The Most Feared would not be afraid to speak.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  12. #5152
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post

    What's the difference between claiming to make $20K a week and claiming to make $1M a year?

    Didn't the Wolf of Wall Street say that he was upset when he made fifty million one year because he couldn't then claim that he made a million a week?

    Except in your case you now added all sorts of asterisks to your claim, stating that it refers to gross revenues only, alluding to expenses, inability to maintain that level consistently, and most confusingly, now claim that you "hope" to bring in $20K gross revenue on some weeks.



    In a roundabout way DarkO just repeated what I said in the first place,
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    And even if it WERE possible, bringing in an army of new players weekly, both these new players and the "workers" he mentions who are assuming the identities of the new players, would need to get paid, so he personally still wouldn't be netting anywhere near what he claims.
    although he is still not mentioning the actual cost of doing business.

    Why not just tell it like it is. I mean, I don't post about what I "expect" to book on a day's trade, I just post the trade after it is concluded.

    Better yet, tell us exactly what you are doing because I know this is what you truly wish to do. Tell all! Why be intimidated by these others into revealing only half truths, especially if you are indeed the Most Feared and the casinos already know what you and everyone else are doing. This is VCT, where free speech reigns. The Most Feared would not be afraid to speak.
    I won't tell you cause I don't want to see you next to me doing it.

    And you would once you understood it.

    The reason people want radio silence on this is because they do understand what I do and how lucrative it is. They just doubt I have scaled it up to the size I claim.

    As to all types of asterisks to my claim, I claimed I made $20,000 this week. I never said I made a million a year.

    I didn't make any money last week or the last three months. Gee I think casinos were closed???

    I can make this very BOLD claim right now though.

    I made more money this week than any show on Broadway!!!

  13. #5153
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post

    What's the difference between claiming to make $20K a week and claiming to make $1M a year?

    Didn't the Wolf of Wall Street say that he was upset when he made fifty million one year because he couldn't then claim that he made a million a week?

    Except in your case you now added all sorts of asterisks to your claim, stating that it refers to gross revenues only, alluding to expenses, inability to maintain that level consistently, and most confusingly, now claim that you "hope" to bring in $20K gross revenue on some weeks.



    In a roundabout way DarkO just repeated what I said in the first place,
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    And even if it WERE possible, bringing in an army of new players weekly, both these new players and the "workers" he mentions who are assuming the identities of the new players, would need to get paid, so he personally still wouldn't be netting anywhere near what he claims.
    although he is still not mentioning the actual cost of doing business.

    Why not just tell it like it is. I mean, I don't post about what I "expect" to book on a day's trade, I just post the trade after it is concluded.

    Better yet, tell us exactly what you are doing because I know this is what you truly wish to do. Tell all! Why be intimidated by these others into revealing only half truths, especially if you are indeed the Most Feared and the casinos already know what you and everyone else are doing. This is VCT, where free speech reigns. The Most Feared would not be afraid to speak.
    I won't tell you cause I don't want to see you next to me doing it.

    And you would once you understood it.

    The reason people want radio silence on this is because they do understand what I do and how lucrative it is. They just doubt I have scaled it up to the size I claim.

    As to all types of asterisks to my claim, I claimed I made $20,000 this week. I never said I made a million a year.

    I didn't make any money last week or the last three months. Gee I think casinos were closed???

    I can make this very BOLD claim right now though.

    I made more money this week than any show on Broadway!!!
    *YAWN*

  14. #5154
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    tell us exactly what you are doing
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    There is a fear casinos will shut stuff down if they know too much.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    I won't tell you cause I don't want to see you next to me doing it.
    Why not, if your experience (expressed below) applies?

    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    My experience is they either know already or have no interest.

  15. #5155
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post



    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    I won't tell you cause I don't want to see you next to me doing it.
    Why not, if your experience (expressed below) applies?

    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    My experience is they either know already or have no interest.
    Well if you follow me on WOV you will know I am also writing a book on my AP experience

    Don't know when I will choose to publish.

    So gotta leave something for the book

  16. #5156
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    gotta leave something for the book
    That doesn't explain this...

    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    I don't want to see you next to me doing it.
    Why not?

  17. #5157
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    gotta leave something for the book
    That doesn't explain this...

    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    I don't want to see you next to me doing it.
    Why not?
    I am certain that if millions of people start doing what I do the casinos will be forced to change or obstructy methods.

    Use common sense.

    They know of me and what I do. To change their freeplay methods would hurt them more than it would be helpful in stopping me.

    I don't want to see everyone doing it though.

    It's one reason I haven't published my book yet

  18. #5158
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Use common sense.
    Common sense leads me to believe that Boz's earlier objection is valid.

    But you dismissed it yesterday...what changed?

    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Boz is getting upset about TMI.

    There is a fear casinos will shut stuff down if they know too much.

    My experience is they either know already or have no interest.

  19. #5159
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Use common sense.
    Common sense leads me to believe that Boz's earlier objection is valid.

    But you dismissed it yesterday...what changed?

    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Boz is getting upset about TMI.

    There is a fear casinos will shut stuff down if they know too much.

    My experience is they either know already or have no interest.
    Boz isn't totally wrong.

    I don't believe the mechanics of the play should be spelled out.

    Boz and others don't want it even known that such plays exist.

    That I disagree with.

    The casinos know what I do. They don't know how I circumvent their protective measures.

    Gotta keep it that way

  20. #5160
    Here is an old play I already posted (and it caused an uproar as you will see in the thread)

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...ove-explained/

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