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  1. #3241
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I must be, by your definition, a real man.
    When we meet, and you repeat your online insults to my face, then you'll be considered a real man.

    Then you will apologize to me, I will record your apology on my phone, and post it here.

    Agreed?
    Correct me if I'm wrong, you being the king of gotchas and all, but the only insults I've thrown your way are that;

    1) You have displayed virtually no gambling expertise on this site. You explained free play once, which is not exactly a doctorate in gambling.
    2) You are the worst kind of hypocrite. You refuse to shine the same gotcha light on all posters' claims.

    Now, I'll be glad to repeat #1 and #2 to your face. No problemo. As for apologies? Not for #1 or #2, my friend. You can put a magnum to my head and blow my brains out, and you're not getting any apologies from me regarding #1 or #2.

    LOL. I distinctly recall, when I was about 25, my friend and I sitting on the hood of my car out in the strip mines at a bonfire party. Little did I know my friend had called a particular girl a whore because she wouldn't go down on him. So I sat on my windshield, with my friend next to me, and it was a really dark night, and a guy, named Bear because he looked like a bear with an afro, walked up to the car and demanded my friend apologize. Now I didn't really know what was going on. Bear stood at the front hood of my car and pulled out a gun and started waving it at my friend, then at me, demanding that my friend apologize for calling the girl a whore. Well, my friend started this, "I don't care. Pull the trigger!! Go ahead, Bear, shoot me! Pull that trigger because I'm not apologizing for anything. Shoot me!" Now I wasn't thrilled with this, mainly because Bear kept waving the gun back and forth at both of us, but I had to give my friend props for not backing down. And no, I did not suggest that my friend apologize.

  2. #3242
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    After all, if you're not willing to face someone who you've insulted online, then you're not a real man.
    You shouldn't talk about Argentino like that just because he's to chickenshit to meet up with redietz.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #3243
    Poor ZenKing. He just can't catch a break.

  4. #3244
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Poor ZenKing. He just can't catch a break.

    I was reading the new ZK thread where he talks about suicide once again.
    I know that he is only speaking figuratively.
    Suicide is Painless.
    It brings on many changes.

    As I have tried to advise him a few times in the past.
    Get a woman that you can be serious about and dedicate your life to.
    Try to get a woman who has no real interest in gaming or casinos.
    Once you get that in place you have it so much easier.
    Next you need to do other things in life that are not Casino related.
    I don't care what it is but you need to do things like go Fishing, Sporting Events, Video Games... etc etc.
    Whatever you enjoy and try to do things your wife/girlfriend enjoy as well.
    After that you just have to balance it out taking time away from whatever game you are playing in the Casino.

    Another thing that can help is to just leave some days when you are up.
    I don't believe in voodoo or stop win or stop loss or anything like that.
    However if you are bothered by the swings sometimes it can just be good for peace of mind to leave when ahead.

    Personally I am not bothered by the swings.
    Last night I was up 8200 dollars and ended up losing 17000 dollars after that.
    I went home losing just about 8800 dollars.
    The difference for me is that I have daily swings near these amounts.
    Just another day to me.
    I never did care about money like he seems to though.
    That may not be true... just an observation.

    As always... ZK is gonna do what ZK wants to do no matter what anyone says.

    The game of life is hard to play.
    I'm gonna lose it anyway.
    The losing card I'll someday lay..


    Last edited by monet; 03-09-2019 at 08:21 AM.

  5. #3245
    Wait you lost 8800 and it’s just ok? Who are you kewlj? You can’t make this shit up. Even Dan would be annoyed if he was up 8000 and lost 8800.
    Last edited by mcap; 03-09-2019 at 09:24 AM.

  6. #3246
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Wait you lost 8800 and it’s just ok? Who are you kewlj? You can’t make this shit up. Even Dan would be annoyed if he was up 8000 and lost 8800.
    I don't understand the question?
    This happens on a daily/weekly basis for me.
    I constantly have 10k to 20k swings.

    8000 dollar swings can be different in Poker depending on the limits you play.
    If I was playing poker professionally I wouldn't have those swings because I would be playing on a team that was cheating in one way or another.

    10k and 20k swings at the denom I play VP/Reels is normal.
    Many times I am playing 90 to 125 dollars a spin. 8k swings are nothing.
    I can expect to lose 500 per hour in cash playing these games till everything breaks right and/or compensations are met.
    Currently one smaller game I am playing is worth 250 per hour but you will constantly lose 250 per hour for long periods of time.

    I expect others to not understand but I thought mcap was in the know.

    Edit: Honestly though. I just spent 1200 dollars for 3 tickets to one hockey game.
    Over 3000 dollars for 6 Shirts or as they call them Jerseys.
    Do you really think it bothers me losing or winning 8000 dollars?
    Emotions from wining or losing money in the Casino left me long ago.
    I hit a 24k jackpot a few days ago and didn't feel anything.
    Just wanted to get the machine unlocked.

    I stopped posting pictures long ago or talking about it because of three reasons.

    1. Nobody Cares.
    2. Many don't Believe.
    3. The people who care and believe just want me to STFU about it.

    I know, I know... Can't Make This Shit Up.
    Last edited by monet; 03-09-2019 at 10:06 AM.

  7. #3247
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Wait you lost 8800 and it’s just ok? Who are you kewlj? You can’t make this shit up. Even Dan would be annoyed if he was up 8000 and lost 8800.
    I'm annoyed anytime I lose any amount of money.

  8. #3248
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Wait you lost 8800 and it’s just ok? Who are you kewlj? You can’t make this shit up. Even Dan would be annoyed if he was up 8000 and lost 8800.
    I'm annoyed anytime I lose any amount of money.
    I am sure that many other things annoy you.

    1. Having Security Tackle You
    2. Being 86'd over and over
    2. Getting Back Roomed
    3. Having Team Members Misplace Tickets
    4. Dealing with Wizard of Nothing
    5. Getting your Players Card Revoked
    6. Being No Mailed
    7. Getting Shut Off
    8. Falling Down from Inebriation
    9. Blackouts
    10. Hangovers

  9. #3249
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Wait you lost 8800 and it’s just ok? Who are you kewlj? You can’t make this shit up. Even Dan would be annoyed if he was up 8000 and lost 8800.
    I'm annoyed anytime I lose any amount of money.
    It helps to pound on the machine and spit on it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #3250
    Monet wrote:


    "10k and 20k swings at the denom I play VP/Reels is normal.
    Many times I am playing 90 to 125 dollars a spin. 8k swings are nothing.
    I can expect to lose 500 per hour in cash playing these games till everything breaks right and/or compensations are met.
    Currently one smaller game I am playing is worth 250 per hour but you will constantly lose 250 per hour for long periods of time.

    I expect others to not understand but I thought mcap was in the know.

    Edit: Honestly though. I just spent 1200 dollars for 3 tickets to one hockey game.
    Over 3000 dollars for 6 Shirts or as they call them Jerseys.
    Do you really think it bothers me losing or winning 8000 dollars?
    Emotions from wining or losing money in the Casino left me long ago.
    I hit a 24k jackpot a few days ago and didn't feel anything.
    Just wanted to get the machine unlocked.

    I stopped posting pictures long ago or talking about it because of three reasons.

    1. Nobody Cares.
    2. Many don't Believe.
    3. The people who care and believe just want me to STFU about it.

    I know, I know... Can't Make This Shit Up."


    I have zero questions on the swings you experience playing video poker, as everything you said sounds very logical. I would like to ask a few questions that I have but will understand completely if you do not answer as what you wrote in #3 above quote.

    A few years ago on Wongs paid site I have read a few post about high stakes play in video poker from a reliable poster who I will not mention but shortly afterward I cancled my membership without asking him questions so I will try now.

    1 Is there any high stakes video poker games in Vegas set above 100% as normal payout "of course contigent upon perfect play and full coin in" without any machine flaws, or could they only be limited to machines with some sort of flaw, or progressives?

    2 Do they bar video poker professionals?

    3 You mention, that one smaller game that you are playing is worth 250 per hour, is that all EV cash, or a combination of money and comps?


    4 I am guessing that above game is some sort of progressive or a flaw in a pay table or something, otherwise, why would they offer it in the first place?

    5 Do players worry about having a big investment in a game and the casino deciding to just take them out of circulation without notice?

    6 Does Vegas still have some lower stakes video poker games already set above 100%?

    7 Do you have a host who could have possibly helped you out with those hockey games/shirts expenses?
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-11-2019 at 03:06 PM.

  11. #3251
    I think Monet is talking about slots rather than VP.

    As to your other questions, I don't think there's currently any high limit VP in Clark County returning over 100%. But regardless with VP the focus these days is seldom off-the-top plays. (Although they still crop up, progressives or machines misset in some way.)

  12. #3252
    1. AFAIK, no. There are of course progressives that can become +EV.

    2. Some places do. Oftentimes they just change a promotion or fuck with the mail.

    4. Casinos aren't known for being particularly smart. Sometimes they just do things "just because".

    5. I can't speak for everyone, but that shouldn't be a problem.

    6. There are FPDW machines around as well as other +EV machines straight up.
    #FreeTyde

  13. #3253
    Thanks for the replies smurgerburger, and RS.

  14. #3254
    2. You can be "no carded" or "no mailed".

    5. Happens sometimes.

  15. #3255
    It helps to pound on the machine and spit on it.- mickeycrimm

    Reminds me of something.

    I was playing JOB 9/6. quarter machine. 5 coin. I was only interested in playing a $20 bill and then playing somewhere else.
    The man next to me talked while I mostly listened. His life was a mess. He was angry. A bitter divorce, his daughters don't speak to him. The girlfriend just dumped him . And so on.
    He is an accountant, a CPA, who only plays one coin at a time. "Would I ever do that"? he asked me. You lose less money is his position. Even giving up the bonus for the royals, you lose less money he is telling me.
    Exactly at this moment he looks at my screen, I've got four to the royal and wham! I pull it.
    His voice takes on a sharper edge. "You're gonna lose that money back". His face is turning red.
    I cash out the grand and stash the voucher in my pocket. I'm outta here.

  16. #3256
    pahrump pete wrote:

    "The man next to me talked while I mostly listened. His life was a mess. He was angry. A bitter divorce, his daughters don't speak to him. The girlfriend just dumped him . And so on."

    You know Pete if you were a more compassionate man you could have informed him that he could find a like-minded friend on the Zen Zone forum site to share lifes ups and downs.

  17. #3257
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Get a woman that you can be serious about and dedicate your life to.
    terrible idea. no man should dedicate his life to a woman.

    follow the advice of tony montana. first, you get the money. then, you get the power. then, you get the women.
    (actually you can do the first 2 in either order, but very important to not do the first WITHOUT the second or you're just a beta with money aka a walking ATM)

    but in all seriousness, dedicating your life to a woman is BETA AS FUCK.

    truly successful alpha males don't devote themselves to women. women devote themselves to them.

  18. #3258
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    pahrump pete wrote:

    "The man next to me talked while I mostly listened. His life was a mess. He was angry. A bitter divorce, his daughters don't speak to him. The girlfriend just dumped him . And so on."

    You know Pete if you were a more compassionate man you could have informed him that he could find a like-minded friend on the Zen Zone forum site to share lifes ups and downs.
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  19. #3259
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    pahrump pete wrote:

    "The man next to me talked while I mostly listened. His life was a mess. He was angry. A bitter divorce, his daughters don't speak to him. The girlfriend just dumped him . And so on."

    You know Pete if you were a more compassionate man you could have informed him that he could find a like-minded friend on the Zen Zone forum site to share lifes ups and downs.
    A response to a post on Zen Zone today in response to the above post.

    Moses, I was referring to you alone no one else, the reason being your constant shots at everyone, myself included. I like Fat Bubble Bee, and John Doe as I have enjoyed engaging them both in threads on other boards. Blitzkrieg, his posts are enjoyable to read, but I have no desire to join another board, and I do not care what reason that you think I will not.
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-14-2019 at 11:51 AM.

  20. #3260
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    pahrump pete wrote:

    "The man next to me talked while I mostly listened. His life was a mess. He was angry. A bitter divorce, his daughters don't speak to him. The girlfriend just dumped him . And so on."

    You know Pete if you were a more compassionate man you could have informed him that he could find a like-minded friend on the Zen Zone forum site to share lifes ups and downs.
    Moses, I was referring to you alone no one else, the reason being your constant shots at everyone, myself included. I like Fat Bubble Bee, and John Doe as I have enjoyed engaging them both in threads on other boards. Blitzkrieg, his posts are enjoyable to read, but I have no desire to join another board, and I do not care what reason that you think I will not.

    I really don't think that Pahrump Pete is Moses.

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