Both Rob and Alan said that, by the way Alex, you forgot the silent K in Frankie's last name.Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Both Rob and Alan said that, by the way Alex, you forgot the silent K in Frankie's last name.Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Originally Posted by kewlJA couple things about Axel's post if I may. Of course everything is true. That almost goes without saying.
I found myself thinking about the EvenBob comment. I am aware of EvenBob's claims but yet have never commented on them. Never felt the need. Everyone knows they are nonsense. And I am not alone, there are fewer people that object to EvenBob's claims as say someone like Mdawg. So why do I care about Mdawgs claims or Singers claims and not EvenBob's?
I think it is the repetition. Evenbob only occasionally says his nonsense usually when someone else has brought the topic up. But these other guys it is freaking ongoing, multiple times a day, long running threads that last for years AND sockpuppets (hello Marcus) to support their position. That is why these guys have to be called out and allowed to be called out by legitimate players and members. I can't get why Wizard doesn't see that?
Shackleford sees it, kewlJ. Clear as day.
The people who actually make a living gambling are always going to be appalled when a hokum dude latches onto somebody like Shackleford. I was appalled at Singer's original Mendelson videos. Parts of them were ridiculous, like Rob briefly mentions he has a kind of feely ability with the machines, and Rob's shirts were hard to take, but my issue was a respected, established journalist allowing a flim flam guy to hitch his wagon to the journalist. Same with Shackleford. He knows exactly what he's doing.
The bottom line, and Axelwolf can correct me if I'm wrong, is that for all of his math expertise, Shackleford either (A) has no interest in making a go of it via actually gambling, or (B) he's failed at making a go of it actually gambling. If he's failed at it, then what he's doing by allowing MDawg free rein to bullshit is flipping the bird to anyone who has been able to actually gamble for a livelihood.
I mean, really, the WoV site should be highlighting the people who actually make their living gambling. What better people to instruct what and what not to do? Instead, Shackleford allows a complete poser to dominate the site in terms of number of posts, total verbiage, and sock puppet cheerleaders. By doing this, Shackleford places himself in an adversarial position to people relying on actual math and telling the truth.
There's no mystery to this. If Shackleford hasn't been able to make a go of actual gambling, then Shackleford is, from an expertise perspective, inferior to the people who have made a living gambling. By driving them from the site via MDawg being the flagship poster, Shackleford resumes his place as most expert person.
I don't think this is fair of you redietz, unless you are closer to Mike than I am aware of and have information that most of us don't.Originally Posted by redietz
I don't know what Wizard did or does to make money, either before or after he sold the websites. THAT is really the only thing he shared. I assume (and I know all about assuming) that he has his hand in advantage plays that he doesn't share or talk about. I assume this because he occasionally drops some hints. I get the feeling (more assuming) he is only interested in things that are fairly high advantage. Now if I am correct and I may not be, it is my gut feeling, just based on little hints of things said, but if I am right, I don't know what that adds up to. Full time AP money? Part-time AP money? No AP money?
I don't know, but I don't think you do either and shouldn't be saying he failed at anything. There are members that are personal friends with him and they probably know, but If Wizard doesn't want to share that, I doubt they will either.
Now I don't like his position on this Mdawg thing. I think I have made that clear. Free speech does not mean you can yell fire when there is none and I don't think it should mean you can intentionally lie and mislead people that can harm them. Not a gambling forum supposed to be about the math.
And while Wizard is using the "free speech" thing now, I have to wonder, why late last year, I declared "it is time to put up or shut up" to Mdawg, only to later be talked out, bought out or bullied out of it. It's been like 3-4 years of these claims (under this particular handle) that defy math and the way Las Vegas works. Let's get back to "it is time (way past) to put up or shut up". It is time (again way past) for Wizard protect the math that he made his name with rather than the Mdog that is bullying and manipulating him.
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Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
By the way....how can a person say they are allowing claims that they know are misleading and hurting people in the name of "free speech" and then suspend many members for saying what is on their mind on the same topic? What happened to "free speech" for that second group?
And while I am at it, one more question for the great and powerful Wizard (in his mind).
What is the difference between Mdawg and Rob Singer?
Both made ridiculous, continuous, ongoing claims that defy the gambling math. Both likely involving progression wagers, just leaving out the losses. Both created sockpuppers (Jerry Logan, Marcus Clark) to support them when no one else would?
Why was Singer not allowed to continue with this BS while Mdawg is? Might as well allow Singer back.
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Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
No such thing as Free Speech with Rusty Shackleford.
KewlJ,
I've been meaning to ask you, what's your opinion on the handling of MDawg over on WoV?
Haha. Since you asked.Originally Posted by Mission146. It was handled correctly last December, was it, when Wizard declared "Time to put up or shut up".
That was before MDawg pulled a Mike Tyson and chewed on Wizards ear.
#FreeWizard. (From Mdawg's gag order)
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Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
You are such a confused person....which "goes without saying" of course.Originally Posted by kewlJA couple things about Axel's post if I may. Of course everything is true. That almost goes without saying.
I found myself thinking about the EvenBob comment. I am aware of EvenBob's claims but yet have never commented on them. Never felt the need. Everyone knows they are nonsense. And I am not alone, there are fewer people that object to EvenBob's claims as say someone like Mdawg. So why do I care about Mdawgs claims or Singers claims and not EvenBob's?
I think it is the repetition. Evenbob only occasionally says his nonsense usually when someone else has brought the topic up. But these other guys it is freaking ongoing, multiple times a day, long running threads that last for years AND sockpuppets (hello Marcus) to support their position. That is why these guys have to be called out and allowed to be called out by legitimate players and members. I can't get why Wizard doesn't see that?
The only place my claims of winning with my play strategy keeps occuring is deep within that envious mind of hours. Even if Lady Godiva showed up-...wait a minute--I mean Gentleman Godiva...in your mind, you would still be thinking about me and 9+ inches. I mean, who could blame such a mixed up guy??
Hence, more of your lies just to satisfy that nasty little itch you just can't get rid of.Originally Posted by kewlJBy the way....how can a person say they are allowing claims that they know are misleading and hurting people in the name of "free speech" and then suspend many members for saying what is on their mind on the same topic? What happened to "free speech" for that second group?
And while I am at it, one more question for the great and powerful Wizard (in his mind).
What is the difference between Mdawg and Rob Singer?
Both made ridiculous, continuous, ongoing claims that defy the gambling math. Both likely involving progression wagers, just leaving out the losses. Both created sockpuppers (Jerry Logan, Marcus Clark) to support them when no one else would?
Why was Singer not allowed to continue with this BS while Mdawg is? Might as well allow Singer back.
My gambling winning from 4 years playing a strategy that most if not all agree has at least an 80% chance of winning each session is both mathematically possible (check with your UNLV math professors that redietz claims to know) and has occurred. And, Jerry Logan was never me. Even wizard confirmed that as fact. Oh wait!---if wizard says anything that is contrary to nosey little old lady kew, he's way more than an awful traitor.
Wise up, idiot.
Axel: first, Frank told me at a meet at the Silverton that he never played with his own money.Originally Posted by OzzyBoth Rob and Alan said that, by the way Alex, you forgot the silent K in Frankie's last name.Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Also, I agree he knew his shit along with being odd. I don't know what he does today, but he told me directly that he didn't want to live past 50. I assume that didn't work out?
Please link to where wizard said that?Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Cut the crap Rob, admit that you were Jerry Logan. You can plead the fifth on Aceshii if that makes you feel better.
Captain Jack announced that he recently visited Montana in his quest to visit every state that now has sportsbetting. I asked him how he like the -118 lines. He said they were actually -125. They must have moved it up since the last time I checked. But he also said he found some value because high juice can't cover for bad bookmaking.Originally Posted by redietzOriginally Posted by Rob.SingerIt's the opportunity that's the risk. Most small businesses offer products or services that will be required into the foreseeable future. Professional AP's offer nothing and indeed depend upon their wells never going dry. But is that true...that there'll always be something lucrative enuf to go after? We've seen a drastic reduction in benefits and opportunities in the last decade. What of the future?Originally Posted by MaxPen
Well, sports gambling has, if anything, exploded in popularity and has, this anomalous season possibly aside (because we'll never see a year when 75% of college football teams return 16 starters or more) become easier, in my view.
There's no question that expanding the sports betting population makes life easier for both making money from handicapping and making money from betting. Sports betting specialists project to have more and better opportunities in all facets of the game. Books are relying more and more on simple algorithms to make lines, and their profits are much more reliant on sucking gamblers into making numerous sub-bets (quarters, halves, props, live betting).
I wish I were 21 in 2021. The next decade should be fun.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Anybody who's not up to par with the legendary Jerry Logan( or needing a reminder) I recommend going back to the wov archives " the good old days" the very beginning( 20-30 min estimate) and check out Jerry's non stop gaffes for yourself before he gets the door prize, definitely Robs signature MO. You will kill 2 birds with one stone( well worth it) YOU WILL NOT RECOGNIZE SHACK complete 180 to the sad pathetic manboy he is today. He actually had integrity and values back then. Must read !
When did shank change? When he sold to the Serbs?
Frank had some health issues. He lost one of his eyes. And he says he's working a real job.Originally Posted by AxelWolf
In his book Frank said he was working for someone and never used his own money. But he also told how he made the boss a shit ton of money.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Holy hell,,,,, I just went and read some of the goings on at WoV. I any of you are still participating on that site. Well,,,,, you must be retarded. Along with being some sort of beta bitchboy as well.
Why do the need 4 moderators for 2 dozen active users. Which looks like currently 1/3 are suspended. Meanwhile you have MDog and his sock puppet sucking Wizard's cock.....lol......then the teacher's pet mods lapping that shit up too.
I pronounce MDog winner of the internet. He has reduced that place to a laughing stock. Anyone remaining is cucking out to MDog......lol,,,,,
FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP
Amen MaxPen. I do believe making a mockery or laughing stock of both Wizard and WoV was mdog's objective from the beginning.Originally Posted by MaxPen
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Originally Posted by MaxPen
I confess -- the 60 hands in a row story generated a response from me at WoV. Here it is:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...ds-in-a-row/3/
Of course I was "suspended," which is about the same as being allowed to leave a circle jerk with your pants still zippered.
And why would you think your response to a simply ridiculous story on another forum is of any particular interest whatsoever to a group of posters who mostly either despise or are banned from that place? Actually, it might be entertaining to read a long-winded babble from kew on the subject, seeing how he believes he's the forum sheriff/attorney general/old lady in the shoe for all things public and private.Originally Posted by redietzOriginally Posted by MaxPen
I confess -- the 60 hands in a row story generated a response from me at WoV. Here it is:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...ds-in-a-row/3/
Of course I was "suspended," which is about the same as being allowed to leave a circle jerk with your pants still zippered.
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