You should know; you did firsthand research of the source material.Originally Posted by coach belly
What's that...the big project that you're working on?Originally Posted by Mission146
Maybe you'll hit the bigtime...the next Harvey Fierstein.
You should know; you did firsthand research of the source material.Originally Posted by coach bellyWhat's that...the big project that you're working on?Originally Posted by Mission146
Maybe you'll hit the bigtime...the next Harvey Fierstein.
The nondisclosure agreement (NDA) between Shackleford and Mdawg reared it's ugly head again today. In a discussion about Mdawg's preposterous claim of winning 60 rounds of blackjack in a row, which he is now altering and trying to backtrack on, Shackleford revealed that the NDA made this past spring, forbids him from commenting on this new claim. So this NDA restricts Shackleford from saying anything, any opinion that might be construed as negative about Mdawg and his claims, past, present or FUTURE. Wizard is bought and paid for. Mdawg can claim he plays a pure martingale and it works 100% of the time and Wizard is restricted from saying anything.
I call that SELLING OUT on the part of one Michael Shackleford. His expertise on gambling math is what gives him credibility as the arbitrator, the referee of these things. He has sold that credibility, if not for money which is my guess, then your guess is as good as mine. And that makes Mr. Shackleford, as complicit in this scam as Mdawg. Michael Shackleford has now in no uncertain terms joined the likes of Mdawg, Rob Singer and others in their bullshit claims that defy MATH and reality. No other way to say it.
I propose a new moniker or title for Mr. Shackleford: THE WIZARD OF SCAMS and sellouts.
Wizard for Sale! Wizard for Sale! Get your Wizard for sale here.
Last edited by kewlJ; 10-04-2021 at 02:35 PM.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Originally Posted by kewlJThe nondisclosure agreement (NDA) between Shackleford and Mdawg reared it's ugly head again today. In a discussion about Mdawg's preposterous claim of winning 60 rounds of blackjack in a row, which he is now altering and trying to backtrack on, Shackleford revealed that the NDA made this past spring, forbids him from commenting on this new claim. So this NDA restricts Shackleford from saying anything, any opinion that might be construed as negative about Mdawg and his claims, past, present or FUTURE. Wizard is bought and paid for. Mdawg can claim he plays a pure martingale and it works 100% of the time and Wizard is restricted from saying anything.
I call that SELLING OUT on the part of one Michael Shackleford. His expertise on gambling math is what gives him credibility as the arbitrator, the referee of these things. He has sold that credibility, if not for money which is my guess, then your guess is as good as mine. And that makes Mr. Shackleford, as complicit in this scam as Mdawg. Michael Shackleford has now in no uncertain terms joined the likes of Mdawg, Rob Singer and others in their bullshit claims that defy MATH and reality. No other way to say it.
I propose a new moniker or title for Mr. Shackleford: THE WIZARD OF SCAMS and sellouts.
Wizard for Sale! Wizard for Sale! Get your Wizard for sale here.
This is exactly what I've been saying from the beginning. If there's an NDA, then Shackleford didn't sign it just for funsies to watch a guy he knew would be hokum. He signed it as a contract.
So Shackleford knew what the consequences would be from the beginning, which is why he's greased the wheels for MDawg the whole time. Obviously the NDA and the contract works in the interests of the site (traffic) and Shackleford (money and inclusion in MDawg's project), and whatever the endgame, which at this juncture (given Darkoz's enthusiasm) may be some book/movie attempt. God knows, more twisted "true life" stories have made it to the screen while contorting facts and just making shit up.
So the entire WoV site is complicit and has jumped the shark, as Boz says.
I've been saying this the whole time. If you read between the lines with the mods, OnceDear is no fan of the Shackleford promoting flim flam direction. And the other mods were brought in to smooth the MDawg sailing.
The whole thing is pretty transparent.
Why anybody doing serious gambling would take WoV seriously is beyond me. It's gone from a checkers club that thought it was a chess club to a promotional flim flam front.
I have a feeling, as someone who has no concerns with doxing or being quoted by reporters, this just got real for me. Because out of all the folks on all the blessed sites, I'm probably the biggest current pain in the ass for this Mdawg/Shackleford team-up.
Well, everybody needs a hobby. I guess this will be mine.
Last edited by redietz; 10-04-2021 at 03:19 PM.
Why would someone like you who wins all the time be concerned with something called Gambling??Originally Posted by redietz
lol Serious Gambling.
You are not a Gambler... You're a Scambler who preys on the weak and charges them money for your phony sports picks.
It is clear that MDog owns the Wiz.....RIP
Now how long are you fools going to keep paying attention to that tripe?
OnceDear deserves no credibility. He is a facilitator of the fraud. A useless idiot.
FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP
I read about it in his Who's Who bio...his hobby is being a pimple on everybody's ass.Originally Posted by monet
Originally Posted by monetWhy would someone like you who wins all the time be concerned with something called Gambling??Originally Posted by redietz
lol Serious Gambling.
You are not a Gambler... You're a Scambler who preys on the weak and charges them money for your phony sports picks.
Let me know when you dig up those quotes where I "win all the time."
Obviously you couldn't find any or you would have included them. You should probably consult your betters regarding what I do.
Note: To clarify, I win about 57% of my college football plays lifetime ATS, and a shade over 54% NFL, mostly totals. I have lost, over the course of more than 40 years, about one year out of every six to seven.
OK...over and out already.Originally Posted by redietz
Kudos to you MaxPen for repeatedly saying this as a personal friend or former friend of Mikes. (don't know the current status and it is not important), but you at least knew him some, why do you think he would go this route? Does he just not care about the math and stuff that sort of made him into "the Wizard"?Originally Posted by MaxPen
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Seems he’s just semi retired, checked out and doesn’t give a fuck
That isn't want it "seems" to me. I could almost deal with that, if say Wizard hadn't involved himself and just let other members call out Mdawgs claims. But he didn't do that. He clearly started protecting this nut job. How many members have been suspended for saying some variation of they didn't believe Mdawg?Originally Posted by mcap
And it has become pretty personal with Wizard. He is adamantly trying to drive those that voice an opinion of non-belief from the forum. While I left the forum of my own choosing, it was only after multiple (many) suspensions, most for pretty mild things said. But once wizard decides you are on the "other" side....
I know many here don't care much for billryan, but Wizards actions against billryan, are not that of a reasonable forum administrator. Wizard flat out declared his dislike for billryan because billryan repeatedly questions Mdawgs claims. Wizard suspended him for 30 or 60 days AND announced upon return he looked forward to suspending him for another 30-60 days. Come on!
And by the way, no matter how anyone feels about billryan and it is mostly because he made his political beliefs known, billryan is a legitimate advantage player. Low limit, supplemental type, but longtime legitimate advantage player. I have known him since the first blackjack forum I joined in 2006. Don't always like him. Didn't always get along all that well. But he is a legitimate card counter type AP, i guess now into machine play as well. He should NOT receive the harsh punishment he has received for voicing his opinion about claims that defy math and the way things work. One of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen from Mike, and I think I have seen and been a part of a lot of unfair treatment.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
I see him along the lines of old actors pitching anything they can for a few bucks with no concern with the credibility of the item or themselves.Originally Posted by mcap
Look at Jimmy JJ Walker & Joe Namath pitching Medicare scams, William Shatner pitching anything, etc.
Not that the Wizard was ever on that level of fame, but to those who respected him for his commitment to math, odds and fair play from casinos, it appears he sold out.
While I joke he did it for $500, it’s becomig more obvious something more is at play here. And RED might be on to something that he is now partners on a bigger project with MDawg and possibly even Dark Oz.
It has been clear that MD is pulling the strings on the site for a while now and Wiz isn’t even hiding it with his public Thanking of MD for outing Buzz as one of his critics the other day.
Strange times indeed when Tasha is more forthcoming than the Wizard.
+1 or +1000 Boz.
And let's not forget sockpuppets. WoV forum has always been very strong in identifying and disallowing sock puppets. Now all of the sudden they can't seem to figure out what everyone else knows....that Marcus Clark is an Mdawg sockpuppet. These guys like Mdawg can never find any real supporters so they invent one or two via sockpuppet.
It is just really strange how WoV administrators are all of the sudden sock puppet detecting challenged.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Originally Posted by The Boz
As bad of an overall poster as BigBilly is over there, he does have some knowledge about casinos and a couple of other subjects. His attitude blows Billy Goats and I envision him to be a failed Vegas AP. Who the hell moves to Buttfuck Bisbee if your successfuly making it work in Vegas. Not to mention, daily feasting on the house at the Heart Attack Grill. With all that being said, he was a loyal Manboy brownosing stooly deciple with I'm guessing 12k posts by now. Rusty decides to discard him like yesterday's trash, with not even a second thought. Man of integrity that Weak Wizard !
Love Ant, all time radio great. Him and Opie had a helluva thing going in the early to mid 2000’s when they started on XM.Originally Posted by tableplayOriginally Posted by The Boz
Loved the voice stuff he did, the fake Tony Danza on the phone outside his short lived TV show was radio gold.
Who knows. I tend not to discuss forum stuff with people in social settings. Whatever people do on forums is their business.Originally Posted by kewlJKudos to you MaxPen for repeatedly saying this as a personal friend or former friend of Mikes. (don't know the current status and it is not important), but you at least knew him some, why do you think he would go this route? Does he just not care about the math and stuff that sort of made him into "the Wizard"?Originally Posted by MaxPen
FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP
Your split personalities must be too sensitive to discuss on the real.Originally Posted by MaxPen
Crapgame...I'm sure you've always been a phony.
Nothing phony. I just don't involve myself with other people's dealings with other people unless I am involved. You should try it sometime.Originally Posted by coach bellyYour split personalities must be too sensitive to discuss on the real.Originally Posted by MaxPen
Crapgame...I'm sure you've always been a phony.
FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP
Thanks for the Danza link Boz. I've got some catching up to do as I just discovered his show.Originally Posted by The BozLove Ant, all time radio great. Him and Opie had a helluva thing going in the early to mid 2000’s when they started on XM.Originally Posted by tableplayOriginally Posted by The Boz
Loved the voice stuff he did, the fake Tony Danza on the phone outside his short lived TV show was radio gold.
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