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  1. #5121
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    No one ever tells me in advance "Hey changed my mind. I know you paid me for going
    When you enlist a new team member to get cards for you, do you stake them for their initial play to generate the offers?

  2. #5122
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    It’s either egotistical or to piss off others?
    What others would get pissed off and why would they get pissed off?

  3. #5123
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    It’s either egotistical or to piss off others?
    What others would get pissed off and why would they get pissed off?
    You have been around long enough to know some are against sharing of information on these forums. Which of course makes these forums useless for anything other than feuds and BS going back and forth.

  4. #5124
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    You have been around long enough to know some are against sharing of information on these forums.
    Are those that you reference above among us on VCT ?

  5. #5125
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    No one ever tells me in advance "Hey changed my mind. I know you paid me for going
    When you enlist a new team member to get cards for you, do you stake them for their initial play to generate the offers?
    I'm going to stop now.

    Boz is getting upset about TMI.

    There is a fear casinos will shut stuff down if they know too much.

    My experience is they either know already or have no interest.

  6. #5126
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    No one ever tells me in advance "Hey changed my mind. I know you paid me for going
    When you enlist a new team member to get cards for you, do you stake them for their initial play to generate the offers?
    I'm going to stop now.

    Boz is getting upset about TMI.

    There is a fear casinos will shut stuff down if they know too much.

    My experience is they either know already or have no interest.
    Wrong take Dark Oz. I’m asking what is in it for you?

  7. #5127
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    I'm going to stop now.
    You've been a class act throughout this exercise...I appreciate the effort.

  8. #5128
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    You have been around long enough to know some are against sharing of information on these forums.
    Every party has a pooper...

    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/e4a64f5...8-f2271a3066a8
    Last edited by coach belly; 07-10-2020 at 05:24 PM.

  9. #5129
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    When you enlist a new team member to get cards for you, do you stake them for their initial play to generate the offers?
    I'm going to stop now.

    Boz is getting upset about TMI.

    There is a fear casinos will shut stuff down if they know too much.

    My experience is they either know already or have no interest.
    Wrong take Dark Oz. I’m asking what is in it for you?
    I came here to discuss gambling.

    Well originally to point out I am not Baccmaster I guess lol

  10. #5130
    Welcome new team member Coach Belly to the Dark Oz players' club card hustling team.

  11. #5131
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    Nah, just a couple of candy-asses.

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...420#post-98845
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    Shut it down, LMR. = Low Mind thRust, (invar.)

    555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.

    3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.

  12. #5132
    Originally Posted by LMR View Post
    That Freddy is hilarious.

    He says if we can read forums so can casinos and my name is available to be looked up.

    So? I use OTHER PEOPLE'S CARDS!!!.

    One casino caught me and sent my info to another one so they cut my offers off. I had 28 cards there. After they cut off my personal offers now I had 27 cards.

    I don't even go anymore. I send in my crew.

    I'm not the one who is in fear, lol.

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    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    That Freddy is hilarious.
    He sure is. My favorite is TablePooey. Hehehe.
    Lustin' lutins (from) NUTS:LI (Lichtenstein), unlist insult, until's sunlit!


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    ---> MR. L(osing).


    Shut it down, LMR. = Low Mind thRust, (invar.)

    555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.

    3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.

  14. #5134
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    So you make about 20k per week each week ?
    $20K in free slot play per week isn’t hard. It’s a lot of work and depends on the market.

    If you look at the Sacramento, Reno, Tahoe, Fresno, LA, and San Diego markets, $20K a week is doable. It’s a lot of work to set up and run the coin-in through to set up the system. You just have to be careful of places like Red Hawk that don’t like dine and dash (Red Hawk will cut you off immediately); places where once you insert your players card, you get a host greeting you within 10 seconds, etc.

    Casino reward clubs are set up differently and if you play at Class II casinos, they are going to be a lot more generous with their welfare checks (also called mailers or bounce backs).

    The hard part is keeping the system running after setting it up. Some casino set the offer good for 3 months, others is for 2 months, etc.

  15. #5135
    Originally Posted by Ex-AP View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    So you make about 20k per week each week ?
    $20K in free slot play per week isn’t hard. It’s a lot of work and depends on the market.

    If you look at the Sacramento, Reno, Tahoe, Fresno, LA, and San Diego markets, $20K a week is doable. It’s a lot of work to set up and run the coin-in through to set up the system. You just have to be careful of places like Red Hawk that don’t like dine and dash (Red Hawk will cut you off immediately); places where once you insert your players card, you get a host greeting you within 10 seconds, etc.

    Casino reward clubs are set up differently and if you play at Class II casinos, they are going to be a lot more generous with their welfare checks (also called mailers or bounce backs).

    The hard part is keeping the system running after setting it up. Some casino set the offer good for 3 months, others is for 2 months, etc.
    I know at least two people that have been working the California freeplay for years.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #5136
    Originally Posted by Ex-AP View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    So you make about 20k per week each week ?
    $20K in free slot play per week isn’t hard. It’s a lot of work and depends on the market.

    If you look at the Sacramento, Reno, Tahoe, Fresno, LA, and San Diego markets, $20K a week is doable. It’s a lot of work to set up and run the coin-in through to set up the system. You just have to be careful of places like Red Hawk that don’t like dine and dash (Red Hawk will cut you off immediately); places where once you insert your players card, you get a host greeting you within 10 seconds, etc.

    Casino reward clubs are set up differently and if you play at Class II casinos, they are going to be a lot more generous with their welfare checks (also called mailers or bounce backs).

    The hard part is keeping the system running after setting it up. Some casino set the offer good for 3 months, others is for 2 months, etc.
    You're preaching to the choir on that aspect, I didn't ask how much free-play he earned, I asked if it he was consistently making a profit of 20k a week. From my understanding, he's not going after 5 and 10K must hits and whatnot. I got the impression he's not jamming through 50k+ on any single card. If you consider all his history and the things that have said in the past when and how he got started and the fact that he doesn't do any other type of AP other than ABC multi-carding mail offers on the EC VIA THE BUS and TRAIN system, I find it hard to swallow(insert joke) is making close to 1 million a year.

    Perhaps this is a better question, DarkOZ since you have been so open about stuff this far. Is your personal savings/ bankroll over 700k right now? I suspect it should be at least that, if you're making over $1000000 a year.

  17. #5137
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Ex-AP View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    So you make about 20k per week each week ?
    $20K in free slot play per week isn’t hard. It’s a lot of work and depends on the market.

    If you look at the Sacramento, Reno, Tahoe, Fresno, LA, and San Diego markets, $20K a week is doable. It’s a lot of work to set up and run the coin-in through to set up the system. You just have to be careful of places like Red Hawk that don’t like dine and dash (Red Hawk will cut you off immediately); places where once you insert your players card, you get a host greeting you within 10 seconds, etc.

    Casino reward clubs are set up differently and if you play at Class II casinos, they are going to be a lot more generous with their welfare checks (also called mailers or bounce backs).

    The hard part is keeping the system running after setting it up. Some casino set the offer good for 3 months, others is for 2 months, etc.
    You're preaching to the choir on that aspect, I didn't ask how much free-play he earned, I asked if it he was consistently making a profit of 20k a week. From my understanding, he's not going after 5 and 10K must hits and whatnot. I got the impression he's not jamming through 50k+ on any single card. If you consider all his history and the things that have said in the past when and how he got started and the fact that he doesn't do any other type of AP other than ABC multi-carding mail offers on the EC VIA THE BUS and TRAIN system, I find it hard to swallow(insert joke) is making close to 1 million a year.

    Perhaps this is a better question, DarkOZ since you have been so open about stuff this far. Is your personal savings/ bankroll over 700k right now? I suspect it should be at least that, if you're making over $1000000 a year.
    The better question is does grabbing freeplay and life lways go without a hitch.

    If that was the case I would have over $700k.

    I never said I made a mil a year. I said I make about $20,000 a week.

    Bit there have been setbacks along the road.

    A major burglary last year was one of them. I never said how much money it was for. I prefer to keep it unknown. Trust me it was for a lot and more than people here have surmised.

    After the robbery tens of thousands were spent on replacing cards.

    Then the Monticello casino closed. It was one of my major operations (no point in hiding that fact now).

    Thru 2019 I had five different operations close on me literally in a month by month succession.

    One casino with $100,000 freeplay a month (against $40,000 operating cost) changed ownership and the new owners understood exactly what I was doing and shut me down.

    Another major operation I had an employee stealing my freeplay (pins would change and my people would come down to fix them, the offers for the day gone). Next week it would hit someone else. Can't complain cause they will follow the cards and see my people as well). One day they caught the employee stealing my cards offers and that led to uncovering my operation there.

    2019 was brutal.

    I spent a lot of the 2nd half of 2019 exploring new markets, and then investing in multiple markets for s big plunge. 2020 was the comeback year with everything scheduled for March.

    Well that didn't go too well. Instead of my operations being frozen monthly like in 2019 they were all frozen simultaneously due to Covid-19.

    So now it's been a brutal year and a half.

    Yet I still had enough money to take care of my family through the months of lockdown and even invest some into the stock market.

    I keep it real. If everything is perfect I make $20,000 a week and I have had long stretches where that's occurred.

    But the last 18 months have been brutal. If I was BS I would brag about a million in the bank. I hope you appreciate I keep it real.

    This is just the 2nd week back from shutdown and I am on track to make $20,000 again. Let's see what roadblocks occur now

  18. #5138
    If you had worked a normal job, saying you had $1million saved wouldn't be seen as "BS" at all. Your card nonsense is just that-a nonsensical way to supposedly make a living, especially for a family. Whenever someone needs to rely on a bunch of others that you don't spend every casino minute with, it's taking a foolish risk. People have big mouths, and they ALWAYS look out for #1 before anything else. I'm glad axel caught you on your $1million claim which made you rethink your story a bit.

  19. #5139
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    The better question is does grabbing freeplay and life lways go without a hitch.

    If that was the case I would have over $700k.

    I never said I made a mil a year. I said I make about $20,000 a week.

    Bit there have been setbacks along the road.

    A major burglary last year was one of them. I never said how much money it was for. I prefer to keep it unknown. Trust me it was for a lot and more than people here have surmised.

    After the robbery tens of thousands were spent on replacing cards.

    Then the Monticello casino closed. It was one of my major operations (no point in hiding that fact now).

    Thru 2019 I had five different operations close on me literally in a month by month succession.

    One casino with $100,000 freeplay a month (against $40,000 operating cost) changed ownership and the new owners understood exactly what I was doing and shut me down.

    Another major operation I had an employee stealing my freeplay (pins would change and my people would come down to fix them, the offers for the day gone). Next week it would hit someone else. Can't complain cause they will follow the cards and see my people as well). One day they caught the employee stealing my cards offers and that led to uncovering my operation there.

    2019 was brutal.

    I spent a lot of the 2nd half of 2019 exploring new markets, and then investing in multiple markets for s big plunge. 2020 was the comeback year with everything scheduled for March.

    Well that didn't go too well. Instead of my operations being frozen monthly like in 2019 they were all frozen simultaneously due to Covid-19.

    So now it's been a brutal year and a half.

    Yet I still had enough money to take care of my family through the months of lockdown and even invest some into the stock market.

    I keep it real. If everything is perfect I make $20,000 a week and I have had long stretches where that's occurred.

    But the last 18 months have been brutal. If I was BS I would brag about a million in the bank. I hope you appreciate I keep it real.

    This is just the 2nd week back from shutdown and I am on track to make $20,000 again. Let's see what roadblocks occur now
    SCAMbler

  20. #5140
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    If you had worked a normal job, saying you had $1million saved wouldn't be seen as "BS" at all. Your card nonsense is just that-a nonsensical way to supposedly make a living, especially for a family. Whenever someone needs to rely on a bunch of others that you don't spend every casino minute with, it's taking a foolish risk. People have big mouths, and they ALWAYS look out for #1 before anything else. I'm glad axel caught you on your $1million claim which made you rethink your story a bit.
    Considering how 90% of Americans started claiming they could not live for 2 weeks with covid closures because they could not feed their families any claim that normal jobs allow people to have a million dollars saved is total bullshit.

    I keep it real.

    I never said I made a million a year. Axel said that. I said I make $20,000 a week.

    Do you think I made $20,000 a week this past April May and June. If you do you are stupid. The casinos were closed.

    BTW, Axel didn't call me out on anything. I have discussed with him my turbulent year and a half so he already knew. And I was honest enough to report the truth.

    But yeah I made $20,000 last week. I will again if nothing goes wrong within the next day and s half( almost there.)

    Will again next week and week after

    Can't speak to August as I am not certain yet how offers are affected by the reopening that far in advance.

    If it makes you feel better to claim Americans with "normal" jobs have million dollar bank accounts go right ahead and feel better. You are living in a fantasy

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