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  1. #7061
    I haven't popped in at WoV, except briefly, given that I am banned. It's super convenient that, if I want to know what's going on there, there are two other gambling forums I can visit--and maybe more I don't even know about.

  2. #7062
    Who is the hippie people mention who coded the WOV forum, is that hippie Michael Bluejay?
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  3. #7063
    Who's the bigger retard? Alan, or MrV? Ha, don't forget all the hangers-on.

    Jesus, I think that the Dawg is beginning to make sense.

    A tart/tard-fest.
    Every one /everyone knows it all; yet, no thing /nothing is truly known by any one /anyone. Similarly, the suckers think that they win, but, the house always wins, unless to hand out an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Garnabby + OppsIdidItAgain + ThomasClines (or TomasHClines) + The Grim Reaper + LMR + OneHitWonder (or 1HitWonder, 1Hit1der) + Bill Yung ---> GOTTLOB1, or GOTTLOB = Praise to God!

    Blog at https://garnabby.blogspot.com/

  4. #7064
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I haven't popped in at WoV, except briefly, given that I am banned. It's super convenient that, if I want to know what's going on there, there are two other gambling forums I can visit--and maybe more I don't even know about.
    Indeed.

    It's kind of like the Harper Valley PTA over there.
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #7065
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I haven't popped in at WoV, except briefly, given that I am banned. It's super convenient that, if I want to know what's going on there, there are two other gambling forums I can visit--and maybe more I don't even know about.
    Did I miss where you were banned? I see you suspended for 3 days from 4/26 until 4/30, which by the way seems like 4 days. I know they are bad with numbers over there.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  6. #7066
    When I visit the wizard of voodoo forum, I look for any info that might be beneficial to me or effect me. The Palms sold thread is a good example. Not familiar with that California tribe run casino, I am interested as to there blackjack rules. With 3 different Indian tribes running or about to start running casinos here in Vegas, I am also interested in how that works. Because these properties are not on Indian land, I am assuming they must abide by Nevada Gaming rules and regulations, and can't do all that self policing, backrooming stuff Indian casinos are known for.

    I say "assume" because I remember after an Indian Casino took over Sands Bethlehem, there was some weird talk that the land that casino sat on became Indian tribal land. I really haven't kept up to know how that played out. Might be a good time to have lunch with Mr. Nersesian and see what he thinks. If nothing else, he is always good for a few "stories".

    Now speaking of "stories", after I look through any legitimate threads for anything that might be beneficial, I like to take a gander at the fiction section at WoV, where the fantasy stories and losing system stuff resides. That is always good for a laugh. Just today I see a guy posting in that made up fantasy section, about losing 80 grand and then miraculously winning it all back +$2000. I love those feel good fantasy stories.

    No surprise this escalating was coming either, if you read this particular fiction story author, he was bound to start escalating, since 99% of his readers don't believe. That is what these attention whores do. Time to pull out the Newell RV's and $100,000 chips. But just fascinating reading never the less. Right up there with all the other make believe stuff.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  7. #7067
    Well, it is kinda funny that MrV, Mono, Mcap, and TP, and a couple of others bother to go "incognito" here. Like when Bosox sits on here, all day, you know who his "invisible" counterparts are. Persons with no life other than entertaining me. Lol.

    Say, what happened to accountinquestion? Druff's friend. He, finally, gave it up, trying to fit in?
    Every one /everyone knows it all; yet, no thing /nothing is truly known by any one /anyone. Similarly, the suckers think that they win, but, the house always wins, unless to hand out an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Garnabby + OppsIdidItAgain + ThomasClines (or TomasHClines) + The Grim Reaper + LMR + OneHitWonder (or 1HitWonder, 1Hit1der) + Bill Yung ---> GOTTLOB1, or GOTTLOB = Praise to God!

    Blog at https://garnabby.blogspot.com/

  8. #7068
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    Now speaking of "stories", after I look through any legitimate threads for anything that might be beneficial, I like to take a gander at the fiction section at WoV, where the fantasy stories and losing system stuff resides. That is always good for a laugh. Just today I see a guy posting in that made up fantasy section, about losing 80 grand and then miraculously winning it all back +$2000. I love those feel good fantasy stories.
    Buying into that fictional tomfoolery will give you herpes of the brain; if you don't believe me just look at what happened to his wingman, whom I call "The Blunder From Down Under."
    What, Me Worry?

  9. #7069
    Mr Kewlj raises some interesting points about tribal lands and casino ownership and rules. You can find several instances where Tribes were given land off their reservations and their sovereign rights transferred to this new land.

    That is not the case with these Vegas deals.

    The Tribes are using their resources for buying outside investments off tribal lands, much like buying an office building or a shopping center off their reservations.

    They will have to follow not only Nevada Gaming regulations but everything else in the state, county and local regulations. They will be in the real world, so to speak.

    This doesn't mean Mr Kewlj will find favorable blackjack. There's no Nevada rule against 6/5 games or stopping card counters.

    The San Manuel Tribe has invested in business properties off their reservation before.

  10. #7070
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr Kewlj raises some interesting points about tribal lands and casino ownership and rules. You can find several instances where Tribes were given land off their reservations and their sovereign rights transferred to this new land.

    That is not the case with these Vegas deals.

    The Tribes are using their resources for buying outside investments off tribal lands, much like buying an office building or a shopping center off their reservations.

    They will have to follow not only Nevada Gaming regulations but everything else in the state, county and local regulations. They will be in the real world, so to speak.

    This doesn't mean Mr Kewlj will find favorable blackjack. There's no Nevada rule against 6/5 games or stopping card counters.

    The San Manuel Tribe has invested in business properties off their reservation before.
    6:5 blackjack isn't my only concern Andrew. The one up and running Indian run casino has 3:2 blackjack, but there are some indications that casino won't be in my "playable" rotation for long. 6:5 is obviously a no starter, but other important things are penetration, and how sweaty they are or tolerance level concerning spreading bets.

    And there is one other strong consideration for me, and that is the database situation. Red Hand Oregon Surveillance Network, better know as OSN, and one of the top database subscription networks in Las Vegas, started out as strictly an information sharing network among Indian casinos in the Pacific Northwest and grew to what it is today. While a large number of casinos subscribe to the network, in general Indian casinos participate more as to logging new entries, which is the dangerous part for a card counter /AP. Most casinos here in Vegas are pretty passive, looking through the first few new entries on occasion. So a couple casinos aggressive in entering new data can be problematic for someone like me and a reason to avoid those casinos even if they have good rules and conditions as it could cost me several other properties in my regular rotation temporarily. It definitely feels like a situation where some homework is required, which is why I am not quite so giddy about "the more competition is a good thing" attitute of some of my fellow AP's.

    I guess worse case scenario, if these locations don't turn out to be an "opportunity" for me, no worse than them sitting there boarded up for the last year.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  11. #7071
    Mr Kewlj I would argue that more competition is generally good. If the San Miguel Palms becomes tougher on card counting then maybe a competitor will become less tough?

    Yes. You'll have to do your "research."

    I don't know how San Miguel operates now in California. I presume that they offer blackjack now.

  12. #7072
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I haven't popped in at WoV, except briefly, given that I am banned. It's super convenient that, if I want to know what's going on there, there are two other gambling forums I can visit--and maybe more I don't even know about.
    Did I miss where you were banned? I see you suspended for 3 days from 4/26 until 4/30, which by the way seems like 4 days. I know they are bad with numbers over there.
    I called WellBush a fucking idiot. Temporarily banned. I think the spirit of it is that it be at least three full days.

  13. #7073
    It'll end whenever I get on tomorrow. I had to retain certain permissions in order to edit my own articles that are a bit hard to separate, so I tend to Nuke blatant spam threads (if no responses) and ban the spammer as I see those. Long story short is that I am actually capable of unbanning myself---just like I banned myself! For some reason, were I green, I couldn't do it.

  14. #7074
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    It'll end whenever I get on tomorrow. I had to retain certain permissions in order to edit my own articles that are a bit hard to separate, so I tend to Nuke blatant spam threads (if no responses) and ban the spammer as I see those. Long story short is that I am actually capable of unbanning myself---just like I banned myself! For some reason, were I green, I couldn't do it.
    I don't really get your 'in between' status. Seems like a partial Mod or something. So do you have the power to suspend others, because I have a suggestion. And no it is not the author of that fiction, fantasy thread in the "losing systems / voodoo" section. It is the guy that was supposed to look into the whole thing and tell us what is/was going on and instead, he collected a payday and said, "I am not at liberty to say".

    Shade of a witness at murder trial: "Did you see what happened Ms. Smith?" "Yes, I did, but I have made an agreement not to say". Idiotic.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  15. #7075
    Oh it's all right. These guys like UNKewl who ended up in the red and gave up, well, you may not but expect that they will seethe with jealousy and envy towards a real winner, and try to explain the reality with all sorts of LONG, drawn out theories that establish little other than that they obsess over others.

    Everyone wants to be around MDawg. The other day I had to pry myself away from my host, host couldn't stop engaging with me and talking to me. Told me whole recent life story and we discussed the ins and out of the entire casino. People want to be around winners.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  16. #7076
    What a retard. Seriously! All the guy can do is lie, which everyone knows he is lying and say stupid shit about how everyone loves him. Somebody really screwed this Mo-Fucker up big time some where along the way. Just sad. Really is.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  17. #7077
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Oh it's all right. These guys like UNKewl who ended up in the red and gave up, well, you may not but expect that they will seethe with jealousy and envy towards a real winner, and try to explain the reality with all sorts of LONG, drawn out theories that establish little other than that they obsess over others.

    Everyone wants to be around MDawg. The other day I had to pry myself away from my host, host couldn't stop engaging with me and talking to me. Told me whole recent life story and we discussed the ins and out of the entire casino. People want to be around winners.

    MDawg is right. I adore Oscar Mayer. Not sure if they're Jewish with that last name, but I love them nonetheless. Being German, I'm also partial to Vienna Beef. Now Hitler, early on in Mein Kampf, does complain that Vienna is a center for degradation and perversion and it's because of a certain religion, but I bet Vienna made a fine dog.

    The forum owner's favorite is probably Hebrew National. Not sure if they were related to Oscar Mayer, but could well be.

    And then there's my favorite. Being a sports handicapper, nothing beats Ball Park Franks. They plump when you cook 'em.

    I think it's great that MDawg promotes hot dogs with his name. People used to say I was a hot dog when I tried my around-the-back reverse left-handed layups. Like MDawg, I took being called a "hot dog" as a compliment.

    MDawg is absolutely correct about this. People want to be around wieners.

  18. #7078
    MDawg, it is like you copied the gimmick of the villains of pro wrestling who take the mike either before or after the match talking just how magnificent he is in every aspect of his life. Then continue on telling the entire audience how miserable their lives are while calling them every insult in the book. Evidentially you want to be the same type of personality on the forums. I think that you accomplished what you set out to do. Why not now reveal the real MDawg image, and stop that fake facade that you always portray yourself. That bullshit that you preach is stale and getting old and more than outrun it's course.

  19. #7079
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    MDawg, it is like you copied the gimmick of the villains of pro wrestling who take the mike either before or after the match talking just how magnificent he is in every aspect of his life. Then continue on telling the entire audience how miserable their lives are while calling them every insult in the book. Evidentially you want to be the same type of personality on the forums. I think that you accomplished what you set out to do. Why not now reveal the real MDawg image, and stop that fake facade that you always portray yourself. That bullshit that you preach is stale and getting old and more than outrun it's course.
    All the while, the crowd is chanting "You Suck....You Suck....You Suck" to the Kurt Angle, now Mdawg's theme song.

  20. #7080
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    MDawg, it is like you copied the gimmick of the villains of pro wrestling who take the mike either before or after the match talking just how magnificent he is in every aspect of his life. Then continue on telling the entire audience how miserable their lives are while calling them every insult in the book. Evidentially you want to be the same type of personality on the forums. I think that you accomplished what you set out to do. Why not now reveal the real MDawg image, and stop that fake facade that you always portray yourself. That bullshit that you preach is stale and getting old and more than outrun it's course.

    BoSox, don't you like wieners? Everyone wants to hang out with wieners.

    Wieners are as American as apple pie, maybe more so since July 4 championships have more to do with wieners than apple pie.

    MDawg is a fine wiener. The M probably stands for Mega, as in MegaBucks. MegaBucks, MegaWiener, it's all the same, really. I think the Dawg has done a stellar job of undercutting whatever credibility these raggedy gambling forums purported to have. So I do think kewlJ has it correct. Nobody is going to buy into anything serious gamblers have to say. Either serious gamblers look shallow and ineffective compared to the effortless consistency of the Dawg, or they sound like scammers and con men who are a bit less obvious in their investment recruitment than the Dawg. Either way, casinos win, which could be what's driving the WienerMobile.



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