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  1. #7101
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...nt/#post804896

    AxelWolf is talking crazy about Covid again.
    Perhaps the world (US Funded and China Operated) shouldn't be capturing the most deadliest viruses in the wild and playing around with them in laboratories to begin with.
    You act as if we do everything they tell us to do that the virus will magically disappear.
    It won't, it's here with us for for awhile.
    Deal with it.
    Not the first time in human history and won't be the last.

  2. #7102
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...nt/#post804896

    AxelWolf is talking crazy about Covid again.
    Perhaps the world (US Funded and China Operated) shouldn't be capturing the most deadliest viruses in the wild and playing around with them in laboratories to begin with.
    You act as if we do everything they tell us to do that the virus will magically disappear.
    It won't, it's here with us for for awhile.
    Deal with it.
    Not the first time in human history and won't be the last.
    Notice no one is looking at the vaccine itself as a cause of any problems.

  3. #7103
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Notice no one is looking at the vaccine itself as a cause of any problems.
    So much money to be made.
    Personally, I'm not taking it so I haven't really followed the vaccines and their side effects.
    My wife got both shots of the Pfizer Vaccine but was hesitant about the second dose because of stories she heard with side effects.
    I told her... you're in this far... what's the difference?
    It makes you (her) feel safer so go get it.
    For myself, I am not pumping myself with dead viruses that have to be administered on a 6 month or yearly basis.
    She didn't have too many ill effects yet.
    She had a very small amount of soreness in the arm from the second shot.
    She was a bit more tired for a couple days from both shots and slept it off.

    Myself... I've never been stronger!
    I play in the Casinos almost everyday.
    I only wear a mask where they force you to wear them.
    I take a pallet full of vitamins.
    I drink my Fresh Juice.
    I drink 3 Cokes or Pepsis a day.
    I overdose on Sun and Natural Vitamin D.
    I'm getting Fresh Mountain Air.
    All of the above destroys the Chink Virus but it also makes you see UFOs.

    Just to be clear.
    This would not be the first time that a virus has escaped from a lab.
    It has happened many times throughout history in many different countries.
    China lied about SARS but now we are supposed to trust them with this Rona and their Transparency???
    Obvious New World Order Plot.
    Last edited by monet; 05-02-2021 at 10:47 AM.

  4. #7104
    How is it you people are too stupid to just let this California Flake mdawg soak in his own pool of dog urine? He's obviously using family or business money that he's not entitled to, in order to create havoc on gambling forums. He knows these sites are laced with countless losers and wannabees, and his advantage thrives thru their weaknesses. Anyone with half a brain knows full well that a true big time winner would NEVER keep trying to show how insatiably needy they are to garner anonymous acceptance over multiple forums....and in incredibly time-consuming ways.

    Links here go to WoV, where this fool keeps posting pictures of suites, cash (curiously, never the incredible amounts that he boasts about), an array of chips, payout vouchers, and even a platinum rolex that Wizard supposedly "handled"? BFD. I'm no high stakes baccarat player who taps in daddy's money and uses his business credit cards and their D&B standing to get casino credit lines. But I still have and have already shown a Piaget platinum/gold watch that's worth five times that idiot's rolex. Proves nothing. A $100k chip? WTF?? Anybody who's worked ten years or more at a decent job can come up with at least 35 of those to blab about if they really wanted to do a cash out....and it would be their own money and not mommy and daddy's!

    You don't need to dox this clown in order to understand him, and it's kind of surprising so many of you allow yourselves to be continually reeled in by him. If he was a strong player he would not ever have the craving need to get other unknowns to buy into his baloney. If it were his AND ONLY HIS money he was flashing around on the internet, then he'd have somewhat of a point. But the only reason he wastes so much time on this is because he's trying to force his make believe nonsense upon any and all comers--whether they believe him or not. And it's the non-believers who keep feeding him.

    As previously stated, the whole argument of his win-only baccarat casino visits is solved by very very simple common sense: there is no casino on this planet that would keep inviting in any player--- on + or -EV games ---who wins all the time. Every knowledgeable gambler knows that, and it's especially true about players with claims like his with such big obnoxious mouths. The bigger the player, the lower the volume.

    I know kew has a major problem with this guy, but he's only agitated because he says he wins by playing a -EV game. Here's a flash kew: instead of whining about his zingers to you, why not try to explain why he won't play with anybody witnessing...which should be easy since you've perpetually dodged anyone from witnessing your two-table counting prowess.

    Bottom line: this moron is no different than any attention and relevance-craving Californian, who will eventually end up broke by 50 and with no retirement plan, like nearly all loud mouth gambling "experts" and all so-called professional gamblers who never had any life skills to fall back on. Or, they could end up like Alan/AndrewG: downtrodden, humiliated, and a Groundhog Day divorcee.

    Wise up.

  5. #7105
    Rob.Singer = Loved by All!
    MDawg = Worst Forum Member Ever!

  6. #7106
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  7. #7107
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...it/#post804913

    lol, once again, at DarkOz.
    How much did Mike (Expert Witness lol lol lol) rape you for this time?
    Why thank you Evil Empire/Evil Lawyers/Evil Judge/Evil Justice System for allowing me to edit all this camera footage!
    What could go wrong?
    lolz
    Last edited by monet; 05-02-2021 at 04:32 PM.

  8. #7108
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Anyone with half a brain knows full well that a true big time winner would NEVER keep trying to show how insatiably needy they are to garner anonymous acceptance over multiple forums....and in incredibly time-consuming ways.
    Which is exactly the same thing that Rob did for decades with his claims ranging from Singer progression million dollar wins, to stealing someone else's double up bug claim.
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Links here go to WoV, where this fool keeps posting pictures of suites, cash (curiously, never the incredible amounts that he boasts about), an array of chips, payout vouchers, and even a platinum rolex that Wizard supposedly "handled"? BFD.
    How is this any different than posting phony pictures of a Newell RV?

    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    As previously stated, the whole argument of his win-only baccarat casino visits is solved by very very simple common sense: there is no casino on this planet that would keep inviting in any player--- on + or -EV games ---who wins all the time. Every knowledgeable gambler knows that,
    Good point Rob. I agree 100%, as I have stated several times. You don't have to be a high limit player (I am not), to know and understand how casinos work. Every AP should know and understand the casino business and it is not what this Mdawg person is claiming.

    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Bottom line: this moron is no different than any attention and relevance-craving Californian, who will eventually end up broke by 50
    (Or Arizonian) Broke by 50 or 70...living off their kids.

    Ironically Rob is right about most of what he says. And you don't see me say that very often. He fails to recognize that most of it applies to him, or the character he made up as well as this Mdawg poster, or the character this Mdawg person made up. But, I'll say it again....Rob is right.....he knows a lying narcissist when he sees one (and for good reason, which he fails to recognize)
    Last edited by kewlJ; 05-02-2021 at 07:28 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  9. #7109
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Now this is the best part. Early on Rob posted his opinion that Mdawg was full of shit. And that put Rob on a list of 20 some people that Mdawg was at war with.

    When I posted that poll asking if people believed Mdawg, a handful couldn't bring themselves to be honest because it was me that had posted, so they responded in a manner that Mdawg interpreted as supporting him (even thou several even stated they were voting opposite of what they believed). Rob was one of those that voted opposite. And that made him Mdawgs new best friend. Mdawg praised him up and down.

    Now once again, Rob has told the truth, something hard for him to do, but kudos to him. And immediately he goes back to the List that Mdawg is at war with. Remember all that praise for Rob, Mdawg? What happened to that?

    This is a funny forum.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  10. #7110
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...it/#post804913

    lol, once again, at DarkOz.
    How much did Mike (Expert Witness lol lol lol) rape you for this time?
    Why thank you Evil Empire/Evil Lawyers/Evil Judge/Evil Justice System for allowing me to edit all this camera footage!
    What could go wrong?
    lolz
    The guy just can't stop showing his idiocy.

  11. #7111
    Anyone check out WOV today? The Forums Page looks really off-putting and strange today.... It kind of looks ugly....WTF? :/
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


    Smart is knowing a Tomato is a fruit.

    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  12. #7112
    tewlj soon to be nuked once and for all?

    Originally Posted by Wizard
    Kewlj will stay out of this thread. He may not comment on it in other threads. If Mdawg posts in another thread, Kewlj may address that post only wherever it may be located.

  13. #7113
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    tewlj soon to be nuked once and for all?

    Originally Posted by Wizard
    Kewlj will stay out of this thread. He may not comment on it in other threads. If Mdawg posts in another thread, Kewlj may address that post only wherever it may be located.
    Could be. Do you think I care? How much have I participated there recently. It has become a voodoo forum, with Wizard protecting a narcissist full of bullshit and bullshit claims, and restricting, privately and publicly several members, real professional players from challenging anything...probably for money, meaning as he almost always does, the great and powerful one, only believes what he believes until someone pays him to believe something else. In other words: Sell out or tratior to the AP and gambling community he fed us that bullshit that he was here to help!
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  14. #7114
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    tewlj soon to be nuked once and for all?

    Originally Posted by Wizard
    Kewlj will stay out of this thread. He may not comment on it in other threads. If Mdawg posts in another thread, Kewlj may address that post only wherever it may be located.
    Could be. Do you think I care? How much have I participated there recently. It has become a voodoo forum, with Wizard protecting a narcissist full of bullshit and bullshit claims, and restricting, privately and publicly several members, real professional players from challenging anything...probably for money, meaning as he almost always does, the great and powerful one, only believes what he believes until someone pays him to believe something else. In other words: Sell out or tratior to the AP and gambling community he fed us that bullshit that he was here to help!
    When is it going to be time for you to start your own forum? KewlJUtopia.com

  15. #7115
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    tewlj soon to be nuked once and for all?
    Could be. Do you think I care? How much have I participated there recently. It has become a voodoo forum, with Wizard protecting a narcissist full of bullshit and bullshit claims, and restricting, privately and publicly several members, real professional players from challenging anything...probably for money, meaning as he almost always does, the great and powerful one, only believes what he believes until someone pays him to believe something else. In other words: Sell out or tratior to the AP and gambling community he fed us that bullshit that he was here to help!
    When is it going to be time for you to start your own forum? KewlJUtopia.com

    I have very little experience with WoV. So I'm hoping some of you can throw out some theories regarding a question that baffles me about the MDawg/Shackleford/DarkOz interaction.

    Presumably, Shackleford has a comfortable nest egg, income, and situation in Las Vegas. He's the flagship person at a gambling site that emphasizes math and telling it like it mathematically is. It's his face on the site and in the podcasts.

    So why, when presented with DarkOz's offer to monitor MDawg, why didn't Shackleford politely turn down the $500 and just offer to formally monitor the MDawg session or sessions for free and report back to the forum. Since MDawg has dominated the forum over there for the last year, wouldn't that be a service to all of the forum members and readers? Wouldn't Shackleford be doing what he would naturally want to do anyway? Why take $500 from DarkOz, and then NOT report details of the session because of an NDA or whatever?

    What sense does it make? You take $500. It makes you look small and niggardly. You monitor a session and then disclose that you agreed beforehand to NOT disclose all of the details. That makes you look like you're just stringing people along, and collecting money for doing so.

    I just don't get it. I hang out with some major heavy hitters, but I live a rather modest life. I've got to be as tight or tighter than Shackleford when it comes to money, but if I were running WoV, I would have PAID $500 to monitor an MDawg session and report on it. I wouldn't have ACCEPTED $500 and then agreed to NOT fully report on the session (s).

    What is the angle here? Why accept $500 and then edit your reportage in front of the alleged hundreds or thousands of WoV readers? That's a major journalistic compromise; a failure, in fact.

    The entire event and the decision-making seemed ass-backwards to me.

    So can anyone explain why this is the way it went down?

  16. #7116
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Could be. Do you think I care? How much have I participated there recently. It has become a voodoo forum, with Wizard protecting a narcissist full of bullshit and bullshit claims, and restricting, privately and publicly several members, real professional players from challenging anything...probably for money, meaning as he almost always does, the great and powerful one, only believes what he believes until someone pays him to believe something else. In other words: Sell out or tratior to the AP and gambling community he fed us that bullshit that he was here to help!
    When is it going to be time for you to start your own forum? KewlJUtopia.com

    I have very little experience with WoV. So I'm hoping some of you can throw out some theories regarding a question that baffles me about the MDawg/Shackleford/DarkOz interaction.

    Presumably, Shackleford has a comfortable nest egg, income, and situation in Las Vegas. He's the flagship person at a gambling site that emphasizes math and telling it like it mathematically is. It's his face on the site and in the podcasts.

    So why, when presented with DarkOz's offer to monitor MDawg, why didn't Shackleford politely turn down the $500 and just offer to formally monitor the MDawg session or sessions for free and report back to the forum. Since MDawg has dominated the forum over there for the last year, wouldn't that be a service to all of the forum members and readers? Wouldn't Shackleford be doing what he would naturally want to do anyway? Why take $500 from DarkOz, and then NOT report details of the session because of an NDA or whatever?

    What sense does it make? You take $500. It makes you look small and niggardly. You monitor a session and then disclose that you agreed beforehand to NOT disclose all of the details. That makes you look like you're just stringing people along, and collecting money for doing so.

    I just don't get it. I hang out with some major heavy hitters, but I live a rather modest life. I've got to be as tight or tighter than Shackleford when it comes to money, but if I were running WoV, I would have PAID $500 to monitor an MDawg session and report on it. I wouldn't have ACCEPTED $500 and then agreed to NOT fully report on the session (s).

    What is the angle here? Why accept $500 and then edit your reportage in front of the alleged hundreds or thousands of WoV readers? That's a major journalistic compromise; a failure, in fact.

    The entire event and the decision-making seemed ass-backwards to me.

    So can anyone explain why this is the way it went down?
    In short, Wizard absolutely should have turned down the money, a measly $500. Furthermore, it was disclosed after the fact That Shackleford had been paid for work with darkOz on an unrelated legal case. He should have disclosed that relationship too....beforehand.

    Shackleford doesn't seem to understand about the concepts of credibility and transparency.

    In this Mdawg situation, Wizard was supposed to witness Mdawgs play and while that brief session, wouldn't prove or disprove anything, it should have been enough for Shackleford to understand what Mdawg was doing and issue an opinion based on that if the whole Mdawg fairytale was "likely" and if Mike believed everything stated based on his expert opinion.

    Instead Shackleford jumped at the measly $500, and issued an opinion that there was more going on than has been told but that he had agreed not to talk about it. That is absolute bullshit on both these people's part, Shackleford and this Mdawg person. The whole point was to get to the bottom of this and instead we got "I agreed not to talk about it". Imagine the expert witness in a court proceeding saying "I have agreed not to talk about it". He would find his ass in jail for contempt.


    Now since I am going, I will continue with this. IF this Mdawg is doing something that has him playing with an advantage and can explain his winning. (few things can explain 100 winning sessions out of 102), but if he is then he owes me and everyone else a big apology, because when he was asked that over a year ago, numerous times, he said no. If he is doing something, which Wizard was supposed to get to the bottom of, but chose not to, there would have been no need for all the drama of the last year, all the name calling, all the lying. all the suspensions. And if it was something he couldn't talk about because it would reveal his play, he had a responsibility to keep his damn mouth shut.

    As it stands now, Mdawg is a bullshit scammer and Wizard is complicit as far as I am concerned. And lets talk about my restriction from the Mdawg thread at WoV. That is Mike protecting this bullshit/artist scammer. The guy (Mdawg) PM's Mike constantly requesting that this person or that be suspended. In my case restricted from his thread and let's be clear, it isn't HIS thread. he is making claims that people should be allowed to challenge.

    Who else in the history of WoV has been restricted from a thread, the top thread by volume to protect someone? Would be like here, if Dan Druff told someone they can participate, but not in the Las Vegas section where 90% of activity takes place. It's just ridiculous.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  17. #7117
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    In short, Wizard absolutely should have turned down the money, a measly $500. Furthermore, it was disclosed after the fact That Shackleford had been paid for work with darkOz on an unrelated legal case. He should have disclosed that relationship too....beforehand.

    Shackleford doesn't seem to understand about the concepts of credibility and transparency.
    Why should he have disclosed that relationship beforehand? Darkoz wasn't even the one who came up with the initial offer, but after the original proposer and MDawg couldn't seem to agree on (added, in fairness) terms, Darkoz said he was cool with the original terms. I don't know what transparency has to do with anything. It's an internet message board. Should every single thing anyone ever does with anyone else be publicly listed?

    In this Mdawg situation, Wizard was supposed to witness Mdawgs play and while that brief session, wouldn't prove or disprove anything, it should have been enough for Shackleford to understand what Mdawg was doing and issue an opinion based on that if the whole Mdawg fairytale was "likely" and if Mike believed everything stated based on his expert opinion.

    Instead Shackleford jumped at the measly $500, and issued an opinion that there was more going on than has been told but that he had agreed not to talk about it. That is absolute bullshit on both these people's part, Shackleford and this Mdawg person. The whole point was to get to the bottom of this and instead we got "I agreed not to talk about it". Imagine the expert witness in a court proceeding saying "I have agreed not to talk about it". He would find his ass in jail for contempt.
    The terms are the terms. The terms were apparently agreed upon by Darkoz, MDawg and Wizard. You're a non-participating party, so why should you have any say in what the terms are? I mean, you're certainly entitled to an opinion, but if you want to correct it, then try to accomplish another meeting with terms that are more to your liking.

    It's also not court. It's a message board.

    Now since I am going, I will continue with this. IF this Mdawg is doing something that has him playing with an advantage and can explain his winning. (few things can explain 100 winning sessions out of 102), but if he is then he owes me and everyone else a big apology, because when he was asked that over a year ago, numerous times, he said no. If he is doing something, which Wizard was supposed to get to the bottom of, but chose not to, there would have been no need for all the drama of the last year, all the name calling, all the lying. all the suspensions. And if it was something he couldn't talk about because it would reveal his play, he had a responsibility to keep his damn mouth shut.
    If this is as you say and MDawg said he was not playing with anything that would influence the overall proposition, then I basically agree with what you have said here. I guess there's no absolute requirement that he has to be completely upfront about what he is doing that might provide an advantage, but it would certainly be better than to deny it multiple times and continue with stories that become fantastical if they require you to be on the far right side of the bell curve.

    As it stands now, Mdawg is a bullshit scammer and Wizard is complicit as far as I am concerned. And lets talk about my restriction from the Mdawg thread at WoV. That is Mike protecting this bullshit/artist scammer. The guy (Mdawg) PM's Mike constantly requesting that this person or that be suspended. In my case restricted from his thread and let's be clear, it isn't HIS thread. he is making claims that people should be allowed to challenge.

    Who else in the history of WoV has been restricted from a thread, the top thread by volume to protect someone? Would be like here, if Dan Druff told someone they can participate, but not in the Las Vegas section where 90% of activity takes place. It's just ridiculous.
    What makes him a scammer? Is he selling something to someone?

  18. #7118
    Mission is usually very precise, so I was curious when I thought his final question to kewlJ above was a kind of non sequitur. I have noticed that Mission tends to focus on the material (money, payment) as an organizing principle a bit more than the average human being with whom I've dealt. I notice that Axel does the same. It's the "if it doesn't directly affect you and yours in a material way, why does it matter?" default orientation.

    Was or is MDawg selling something? Of course he is. He's selling a narrative; he's selling a story. He's hoping readers buy into his tales of adventure at WoV and other forums.

    So, to wrap up, I looked up the definitions of "scam" and "scammer." It's as I thought. Oxford dictionary lists "scam" as "A dishonest scheme; a fraud." Merriam-Webster has the first definition as "a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation."

    The first definitions of "scam" and "scammer" do not specify selling anything to anyone. Assuming that "scam" and "scammer" need refer to money changing hands is a hyper-capitalist, possibly a hyper-gambling, and possibly a hyper-legal error. If your girlfriend tells you that she's monogamous, and she's cheated on you, she's scamming you. If somebody claims they've won 40 out of 41 times and they have not, they are scamming you. If somebody claims they can run 13 miles in 30 minutes (like Captain America), then they are scamming you.

  19. #7119
    I do tend to use the word in a more material way, so I don't disagree with that.

    When it comes to non-material impact, then I would say that the examples in your last paragraph are what I would call, "Bullshitting someone," because there's not really any overt intent to harm or defraud the person that I can see. I guess maybe the girlfriend cheating could be called a, "Scam," of sorts, but that's definitely not the word I would use to describe it.

    I guess it's kind of a scam in the sense that she clearly gets some sort of benefit from being in the relationship that she would prefer not to forfeit, hence, the claims of fidelity.

    I just don't look at the benefit of having people, "Buy into," what you are saying and wanting to read more of it as rising to the level of a scam. Even if that offers some sort of perceived psychological benefit, it's a stupid benefit.

  20. #7120
    Andrew's 18 yo claim was bullshitting. MDawg's elaborate fairytale is a scam.

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