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    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.

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    Wife and I, no spring chickens, chose to be double vaxxed and double boosted and have no regrets.

    Neither of us have been diagnosed with covid, and when / if we catch we'll likely avoid hospitalization due to the vax.

    Works for me: my choice.

    My son is strongly anti-vax and he and his family have not gotten the needle: his choice.
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  3. #9223
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.

    If you've followed my blog since 2021, I've been studiously neutral on Ivermectin effectiveness while lambasting the propaganda that's been directed at anyone advocating Ivermectin. I was never in any way qualified to have an Ivermectin opinion, but I am competent enough to take apart the ways in which institutions have tried to debunk Ivermectin. Basically, I've been debunking the debunking. The absolute worst example of journalism of this type was an August 23, 2021 CNN piece regarding the "dewormer." That roughly 20-minute piece had to have been directly purposeful. The illogical and classically faulty arguments, and filtering of available info would have resulted in an academic fail in any journalism class. The fact that it made it through to broadcast means CNN management had a very purposeful agenda, which is understandable when you see how much of their revenue is from pharma in general and Pfizer specifically.

    Here's some examples. I probably did half a dozen of these.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...o-studies.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...r-studies.html
    Last edited by redietz; Yesterday at 10:22 AM.

  4. #9224
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.

    If you've followed my blog since 2021, I've been studiously neutral on Ivermectin effectiveness while lambasting the propaganda that's been directed at anyone advocating Ivermectin. I was never in any way qualified to have an Ivermectin opinion, but I am competent enough to take apart the ways in which institutions have tried to debunk Ivermectin. Basically, I've been debunking the debunking. The absolute worst example of journalism of this type was an August 23, 2021 CNN piece regarding the "dewormer." That roughly 20-minute piece had to have been directly purposeful. The illogical and classically faulty arguments, and filtering of available info would have resulted in an academic fail in any journalism class. The fact that it made it through to broadcast means CNN management had a very purposeful agenda, which is understandable when you see how much of their revenue is from pharma in general and Pfizer specifically.

    Here's some examples. I probably did half a dozen of these.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...o-studies.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...r-studies.html
    Ivermectin does very little and has side effects of about the same. It was never some cure-all being covered up by galaxo-illuminati medical industrial complex.

    Who give a fuck. Weirdos going to conspiratorize and find little mole-hills to die repeatedly for all their miserable fucking lives.
    Mendleson and Redietz. Your most trusted news source since the Vietnam War.

  5. #9225
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.
    At one point some government official very high up (can't remember who) said we could like huff lysol or some shit. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion but the media shit all over that one too.
    Mendleson and Redietz. Your most trusted news source since the Vietnam War.

  6. #9226
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Wife and I, no spring chickens, chose to be double vaxxed and double boosted and have no regrets.

    Neither of us have been diagnosed with covid, and when / if we catch we'll likely avoid hospitalization due to the vax.

    Works for me: my choice.

    My son is strongly anti-vax and he and his family have not gotten the needle: his choice.
    It was nice knowing you

    RIP
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  8. #9228
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.
    At one point some government official very high up (can't remember who) said we could like huff lysol or some shit. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion but the media shit all over that one too.

    https://ravarora.substack.com/p/the-..._source=direct

  9. #9229
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.
    At one point some government official very high up (can't remember who) said we could like huff lysol or some shit. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion but the media shit all over that one too.

    https://ravarora.substack.com/p/the-..._source=direct

    I wish I could have more faith but when you call yourself the "noble truths" then say shit like this
    “One of my friends who is a doctor at another hospital says clear vaccine-induced myocarditis cases are rarely attributed to the vaccine,” he said. “Often these patients have to fight with doctors to get a proper diagnosis. I’m not sure what’s exactly going on, but there are some incentives in place to prevent the vaccine from looking dangerous in any way.”
    The author has no idea how some multi-national corporation influences doctor's decisions? They just suggest that such a thing exists? GTFO with that medicilluminati junk. Somewhere in there he also gives a little shout out to Joe Rogan. This is all ant-vax grifter talk 101.

    If a researcher/presenter wants to be taken seriously by me, then you need to leave out pandering to the Rogan fanbase.

    I have been on the fence about having kids get the vaccine. Once it was determined it didn't stop transmission as well as we'd hope then I stopped caring.

    As far as some older people having these serious issues. There may very well be an issue. Out of the 5 billion people, many many of them are going to have health issues the day after the shot even if they were given a shot of water. Likewise I am not surprised out of 5 billion people someone had a serious health issue after taking the vaccine. People were warned about this. This is why you hung out for 15-30 minutes after you took it. That was part of protocol.

    I understand every anti-vaxxer wants to show they were right about the vaccination. At the end of the day though it has been conclusively shown that the dangers of the vaccination are dwarfed by the positives for adults who wanted to become vaccinated.

    Again to this day I've met many people with some form of long-covid. I have yet to meet someone who was impacted by the vaccination outside of feeling shitty.
    Last edited by accountinquestion; Today at 10:15 AM.
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  10. #9230
    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/...ity-in-finland

    If you survive the vax you would survive Covid without it.....RIP
    MaxPen

    The only poster that shows up.

  11. #9231
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/...ity-in-finland

    If you survive the vax you would survive Covid without it.....RIP
    I'm not going to go follow the study and all that because the whole article ends with this.

    The “experts” are baffled, what could possibly cause this mysterious spike?

    Must be the climate change…
    I realize they're being sarcastic but once again someone posts some partisan hack clickbait shit. Assuming what they post is true correlation doesn't equal causation but I'm not about to go down some grifter's rabbithole to sort through it.

    PS Amazing how many people been told "fake news" "fake news" then they'll endlessly read this stuff which is not even about to consider trying to give you an objective version of the truth. Not even the pretense there.
    Mendleson and Redietz. Your most trusted news source since the Vietnam War.

  12. #9232
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/...ity-in-finland

    If you survive the vax you would survive Covid without it.....RIP
    I'm not going to go follow the study and all that because the whole article ends with this.

    The “experts” are baffled, what could possibly cause this mysterious spike?

    Must be the climate change…
    I realize they're being sarcastic but once again someone posts some partisan hack clickbait shit. Assuming what they post is true correlation doesn't equal causation but I'm not about to go down some grifter's rabbithole to sort through it.

    PS Amazing how many people been told "fake news" "fake news" then they'll endlessly read this stuff which is not even about to consider trying to give you an objective version of the truth. Not even the pretense there.
    Sort of like the "it would have been worse if you weren't vaxxed" propagandists....lol
    MaxPen

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  13. #9233
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    At one point some government official very high up (can't remember who) said we could like huff lysol or some shit. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion but the media shit all over that one too.

    https://ravarora.substack.com/p/the-..._source=direct

    I wish I could have more faith but when you call yourself the "noble truths" then say shit like this
    “One of my friends who is a doctor at another hospital says clear vaccine-induced myocarditis cases are rarely attributed to the vaccine,” he said. “Often these patients have to fight with doctors to get a proper diagnosis. I’m not sure what’s exactly going on, but there are some incentives in place to prevent the vaccine from looking dangerous in any way.”
    The author has no idea how some multi-national corporation influences doctor's decisions? They just suggest that such a thing exists? GTFO with that medicilluminati junk. Somewhere in there he also gives a little shout out to Joe Rogan. This is all ant-vax grifter talk 101.

    If a researcher/presenter wants to be taken seriously by me, then you need to leave out pandering to the Rogan fanbase.

    I have been on the fence about having kids get the vaccine. Once it was determined it didn't stop transmission as well as we'd hope then I stopped caring.

    As far as some older people having these serious issues. There may very well be an issue. Out of the 5 billion people, many many of them are going to have health issues the day after the shot even if they were given a shot of water. Likewise I am not surprised out of 5 billion people someone had a serious health issue after taking the vaccine. People were warned about this. This is why you hung out for 15-30 minutes after you took it. That was part of protocol.

    I understand every anti-vaxxer wants to show they were right about the vaccination. At the end of the day though it has been conclusively shown that the dangers of the vaccination are dwarfed by the positives for adults who wanted to become vaccinated.

    Again to this day I've met many people with some form of long-covid. I have yet to meet someone who was impacted by the vaccination outside of feeling shitty.

    As I said before your never going to change peoples opinion at this point.

    You definitely are a stupid mother fucker tho

    Not everyone is an anti-vaxxer who decided against taking this shot. Its not a vaccine by definition until they changed the definition.

    Plenty of people are pro vaccine but against the covid shot.

    You are fundamentally broken inside I can tell.

    Maybe seek professional help and unpack all the issues you have. Probably some emotional scars from childhood that need to be discussed.

    Good luck

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