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  1. #9221
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.

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    Wife and I, no spring chickens, chose to be double vaxxed and double boosted and have no regrets.

    Neither of us have been diagnosed with covid, and when / if we catch we'll likely avoid hospitalization due to the vax.

    Works for me: my choice.

    My son is strongly anti-vax and he and his family have not gotten the needle: his choice.
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  3. #9223
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.

    If you've followed my blog since 2021, I've been studiously neutral on Ivermectin effectiveness while lambasting the propaganda that's been directed at anyone advocating Ivermectin. I was never in any way qualified to have an Ivermectin opinion, but I am competent enough to take apart the ways in which institutions have tried to debunk Ivermectin. Basically, I've been debunking the debunking. The absolute worst example of journalism of this type was an August 23, 2021 CNN piece regarding the "dewormer." That roughly 20-minute piece had to have been directly purposeful. The illogical and classically faulty arguments, and filtering of available info would have resulted in an academic fail in any journalism class. The fact that it made it through to broadcast means CNN management had a very purposeful agenda, which is understandable when you see how much of their revenue is from pharma in general and Pfizer specifically.

    Here's some examples. I probably did half a dozen of these.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...o-studies.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...r-studies.html
    Last edited by redietz; 07-02-2022 at 10:22 AM.

  4. #9224
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.

    If you've followed my blog since 2021, I've been studiously neutral on Ivermectin effectiveness while lambasting the propaganda that's been directed at anyone advocating Ivermectin. I was never in any way qualified to have an Ivermectin opinion, but I am competent enough to take apart the ways in which institutions have tried to debunk Ivermectin. Basically, I've been debunking the debunking. The absolute worst example of journalism of this type was an August 23, 2021 CNN piece regarding the "dewormer." That roughly 20-minute piece had to have been directly purposeful. The illogical and classically faulty arguments, and filtering of available info would have resulted in an academic fail in any journalism class. The fact that it made it through to broadcast means CNN management had a very purposeful agenda, which is understandable when you see how much of their revenue is from pharma in general and Pfizer specifically.

    Here's some examples. I probably did half a dozen of these.

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...o-studies.html

    https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...r-studies.html
    Ivermectin does very little and has side effects of about the same. It was never some cure-all being covered up by galaxo-illuminati medical industrial complex.

    Who give a fuck. Weirdos going to conspiratorize and find little mole-hills to die repeatedly for all their miserable fucking lives.
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  5. #9225
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.
    At one point some government official very high up (can't remember who) said we could like huff lysol or some shit. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion but the media shit all over that one too.
    I wander through the path of life. Wondering. Wondering what my next signature on VCT should be.

  6. #9226
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Wife and I, no spring chickens, chose to be double vaxxed and double boosted and have no regrets.

    Neither of us have been diagnosed with covid, and when / if we catch we'll likely avoid hospitalization due to the vax.

    Works for me: my choice.

    My son is strongly anti-vax and he and his family have not gotten the needle: his choice.
    It was nice knowing you

    RIP
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  8. #9228
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.
    At one point some government official very high up (can't remember who) said we could like huff lysol or some shit. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion but the media shit all over that one too.

    https://ravarora.substack.com/p/the-..._source=direct

  9. #9229
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    And the crazy thing about it is that no one here on VCT posted anything about the vaccines being dangerous when they first came out or suggested anything about Ivermectin being an alternative treatment early on in the vaccine history.
    At one point some government official very high up (can't remember who) said we could like huff lysol or some shit. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion but the media shit all over that one too.

    https://ravarora.substack.com/p/the-..._source=direct

    I wish I could have more faith but when you call yourself the "noble truths" then say shit like this
    “One of my friends who is a doctor at another hospital says clear vaccine-induced myocarditis cases are rarely attributed to the vaccine,” he said. “Often these patients have to fight with doctors to get a proper diagnosis. I’m not sure what’s exactly going on, but there are some incentives in place to prevent the vaccine from looking dangerous in any way.”
    The author has no idea how some multi-national corporation influences doctor's decisions? They just suggest that such a thing exists? GTFO with that medicilluminati junk. Somewhere in there he also gives a little shout out to Joe Rogan. This is all ant-vax grifter talk 101.

    If a researcher/presenter wants to be taken seriously by me, then you need to leave out pandering to the Rogan fanbase.

    I have been on the fence about having kids get the vaccine. Once it was determined it didn't stop transmission as well as we'd hope then I stopped caring.

    As far as some older people having these serious issues. There may very well be an issue. Out of the 5 billion people, many many of them are going to have health issues the day after the shot even if they were given a shot of water. Likewise I am not surprised out of 5 billion people someone had a serious health issue after taking the vaccine. People were warned about this. This is why you hung out for 15-30 minutes after you took it. That was part of protocol.

    I understand every anti-vaxxer wants to show they were right about the vaccination. At the end of the day though it has been conclusively shown that the dangers of the vaccination are dwarfed by the positives for adults who wanted to become vaccinated.

    Again to this day I've met many people with some form of long-covid. I have yet to meet someone who was impacted by the vaccination outside of feeling shitty.
    Last edited by accountinquestion; 07-03-2022 at 10:15 AM.
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  10. #9230
    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/...ity-in-finland

    If you survive the vax you would survive Covid without it.....RIP
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  11. #9231
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/...ity-in-finland

    If you survive the vax you would survive Covid without it.....RIP
    I'm not going to go follow the study and all that because the whole article ends with this.

    The “experts” are baffled, what could possibly cause this mysterious spike?

    Must be the climate change…
    I realize they're being sarcastic but once again someone posts some partisan hack clickbait shit. Assuming what they post is true correlation doesn't equal causation but I'm not about to go down some grifter's rabbithole to sort through it.

    PS Amazing how many people been told "fake news" "fake news" then they'll endlessly read this stuff which is not even about to consider trying to give you an objective version of the truth. Not even the pretense there.
    I wander through the path of life. Wondering. Wondering what my next signature on VCT should be.

  12. #9232
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/...ity-in-finland

    If you survive the vax you would survive Covid without it.....RIP
    I'm not going to go follow the study and all that because the whole article ends with this.

    The “experts” are baffled, what could possibly cause this mysterious spike?

    Must be the climate change…
    I realize they're being sarcastic but once again someone posts some partisan hack clickbait shit. Assuming what they post is true correlation doesn't equal causation but I'm not about to go down some grifter's rabbithole to sort through it.

    PS Amazing how many people been told "fake news" "fake news" then they'll endlessly read this stuff which is not even about to consider trying to give you an objective version of the truth. Not even the pretense there.
    Sort of like the "it would have been worse if you weren't vaxxed" propagandists....lol
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  13. #9233
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    At one point some government official very high up (can't remember who) said we could like huff lysol or some shit. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion but the media shit all over that one too.

    https://ravarora.substack.com/p/the-..._source=direct

    I wish I could have more faith but when you call yourself the "noble truths" then say shit like this
    “One of my friends who is a doctor at another hospital says clear vaccine-induced myocarditis cases are rarely attributed to the vaccine,” he said. “Often these patients have to fight with doctors to get a proper diagnosis. I’m not sure what’s exactly going on, but there are some incentives in place to prevent the vaccine from looking dangerous in any way.”
    The author has no idea how some multi-national corporation influences doctor's decisions? They just suggest that such a thing exists? GTFO with that medicilluminati junk. Somewhere in there he also gives a little shout out to Joe Rogan. This is all ant-vax grifter talk 101.

    If a researcher/presenter wants to be taken seriously by me, then you need to leave out pandering to the Rogan fanbase.

    I have been on the fence about having kids get the vaccine. Once it was determined it didn't stop transmission as well as we'd hope then I stopped caring.

    As far as some older people having these serious issues. There may very well be an issue. Out of the 5 billion people, many many of them are going to have health issues the day after the shot even if they were given a shot of water. Likewise I am not surprised out of 5 billion people someone had a serious health issue after taking the vaccine. People were warned about this. This is why you hung out for 15-30 minutes after you took it. That was part of protocol.

    I understand every anti-vaxxer wants to show they were right about the vaccination. At the end of the day though it has been conclusively shown that the dangers of the vaccination are dwarfed by the positives for adults who wanted to become vaccinated.

    Again to this day I've met many people with some form of long-covid. I have yet to meet someone who was impacted by the vaccination outside of feeling shitty.

    As I said before your never going to change peoples opinion at this point.

    You definitely are a stupid mother fucker tho

    Not everyone is an anti-vaxxer who decided against taking this shot. Its not a vaccine by definition until they changed the definition.

    Plenty of people are pro vaccine but against the covid shot.

    You are fundamentally broken inside I can tell.

    Maybe seek professional help and unpack all the issues you have. Probably some emotional scars from childhood that need to be discussed.

    Good luck

  14. #9234
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    As I said before your never going to change peoples opinion at this point.

    You definitely are a stupid mother fucker tho

    Not everyone is an anti-vaxxer who decided against taking this shot. Its not a vaccine by definition until they changed the definition.

    Plenty of people are pro vaccine but against the covid shot.

    You are fundamentally broken inside I can tell.

    Maybe seek professional help and unpack all the issues you have. Probably some emotional scars from childhood that need to be discussed.

    Good luck
    I'm not really trying to change anyone's opinion. I just wanted to correct Redietz who seems to take himself too seriously.

    I love how you try to act like you're not a backwards hayseed loving fucktard by playing semantic games EXCEPT even then you don't have a point. There is something called a flu vaccination that doesn't totally prevent flu and has been around for decades. It has been called a vaccination for those decades. Fucking idiot.

    If you had any point you'd have something to say in response and not just attack the messenger. At least you're not droning on about your dick.

    It is a clownworld.

    RIP.
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  15. #9235
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    As I said before your never going to change peoples opinion at this point.

    You definitely are a stupid mother fucker tho

    Not everyone is an anti-vaxxer who decided against taking this shot. Its not a vaccine by definition until they changed the definition.

    Plenty of people are pro vaccine but against the covid shot.

    You are fundamentally broken inside I can tell.

    Maybe seek professional help and unpack all the issues you have. Probably some emotional scars from childhood that need to be discussed.

    Good luck
    I'm not really trying to change anyone's opinion. I just wanted to correct Redietz who seems to take himself too seriously.

    I love how you try to act like you're not a backwards hayseed loving fucktard by playing semantic games EXCEPT even then you don't have a point. There is something called a flu vaccination that doesn't totally prevent flu and has been around for decades. It has been called a vaccination for those decades. Fucking idiot.

    If you had any point you'd have something to say in response and not just attack the messenger. At least you're not droning on about your dick.

    It is a clownworld.

    RIP.
    I’ve literally never had a flu vaccination or a covid vaccination. I got the flu once in the last 25 years or so. I got covid twice and have been in the casino 60 hours a week since they reopened. It’s genetics my guy you Just refuse to read the scientific research on it. Sorry your pharmaceutical gods failed. It’s a grift now.

    IQ bet still stand tho

    Take the my Hayseed money smart guy

  16. #9236
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    As I said before your never going to change peoples opinion at this point.

    You definitely are a stupid mother fucker tho

    Not everyone is an anti-vaxxer who decided against taking this shot. Its not a vaccine by definition until they changed the definition.

    Plenty of people are pro vaccine but against the covid shot.

    You are fundamentally broken inside I can tell.

    Maybe seek professional help and unpack all the issues you have. Probably some emotional scars from childhood that need to be discussed.

    Good luck
    I'm not really trying to change anyone's opinion. I just wanted to correct Redietz who seems to take himself too seriously.

    I love how you try to act like you're not a backwards hayseed loving fucktard by playing semantic games EXCEPT even then you don't have a point. There is something called a flu vaccination that doesn't totally prevent flu and has been around for decades. It has been called a vaccination for those decades. Fucking idiot.

    If you had any point you'd have something to say in response and not just attack the messenger. At least you're not droning on about your dick.

    It is a clownworld.

    RIP.
    I’ve literally never had a flu vaccination or a covid vaccination. I got the flu once in the last 25 years or so. I got covid twice and have been in the casino 60 hours a week since they reopened. It’s genetics my guy you Just refuse to read the scientific research on it. Sorry your pharmaceutical gods failed. It’s a grift now.

    IQ bet still stand tho

    Take the my Hayseed money smart guy

    Yawn like I said I will escrow with Dan first if there’s a penalty of at least 10k when you back out.

    Since mick met you I know your at least a real person. There’s nothing I like more in this world then embarrassing guys like you physically and mentally for cash. It’s better then having my dick head open up a woman’s cervix to I can deposit my seed directly into her uterus

  17. #9237
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    As I said before your never going to change peoples opinion at this point.

    You definitely are a stupid mother fucker tho

    Not everyone is an anti-vaxxer who decided against taking this shot. Its not a vaccine by definition until they changed the definition.

    Plenty of people are pro vaccine but against the covid shot.

    You are fundamentally broken inside I can tell.

    Maybe seek professional help and unpack all the issues you have. Probably some emotional scars from childhood that need to be discussed.

    Good luck
    I'm not really trying to change anyone's opinion. I just wanted to correct Redietz who seems to take himself too seriously.

    I love how you try to act like you're not a backwards hayseed loving fucktard by playing semantic games EXCEPT even then you don't have a point. There is something called a flu vaccination that doesn't totally prevent flu and has been around for decades. It has been called a vaccination for those decades. Fucking idiot.

    If you had any point you'd have something to say in response and not just attack the messenger. At least you're not droning on about your dick.

    It is a clownworld.

    RIP.
    I’ve literally never had a flu vaccination or a covid vaccination. I got the flu once in the last 25 years or so. I got covid twice and have been in the casino 60 hours a week since they reopened. It’s genetics my guy you Just refuse to read the scientific research on it. Sorry your pharmaceutical gods failed. It’s a grift now.

    IQ bet still stand tho

    Take the my Hayseed money smart guy
    When did I ever say anything about anyone taking the flu vaccine? You said the covid shot is not a vaccination and then I pointed out flu vaccinations have been the same sort of deal for many decades and widely referred to as "vaccines".

    It isn't about you being tough or whatever.. lol.. I love how you pat yourself on the back so fucking much.

    I was just pointing out your semantics argument is just a pile of dumbass shit. It should be apparent...........
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  18. #9238
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Yawn like I said I will escrow with Dan first if there’s a penalty of at least 10k when you back out.

    Since mick met you I know your at least a real person. There’s nothing I like more in this world then embarrassing guys like you physically and mentally for cash. It’s better then having my dick head open up a woman’s cervix to I can deposit my seed directly into her uterus
    You are weird as fuck bro. You have some weird fucking malfunction where you constantly feel the need to express how manly you see yourself on the internet. Epic shit. Like some 15 year old blowhard. Insanity.

    I'm never going to meet you or wager with you or have anything to do with you. Lets get that straight.
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  19. #9239
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Yawn like I said I will escrow with Dan first if there’s a penalty of at least 10k when you back out.

    Since mick met you I know your at least a real person. There’s nothing I like more in this world then embarrassing guys like you physically and mentally for cash. It’s better then having my dick head open up a woman’s cervix to I can deposit my seed directly into her uterus
    You are weird as fuck bro. You have some weird fucking malfunction where you constantly feel the need to express how manly you see yourself on the internet. Epic shit. Like some 15 year old blowhard. Insanity.

    I'm never going to meet you or wager with you or have anything to do with you. Lets get that straight.
    Of course not that’s standard for people with low self esteem and deranged views of the world.

    I would meet anyone from these boards if it involved a bet I felt I had the edge. I’m not afraid of the gun wielding kew or you the American hating lefty.

    Im sure you find all kinds of excuses not to do things in life. The internet is a safe place. Say outlandish things with no consequences. Unlike you I’m willing to bet on things I believe in and say. You Not so much therefore anything you say literally means nothing, and is most likely fake

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    You are so full of shit...

    Just because people correctly figured out you're a tool and want nothing to do with you, you claim that makes them liars, not to be believed?

    Go take a long walk on a short pier little man, and take your penis-pump with you.

    Unless or until you can come across as anything other than a fool people will continue to view you as such.

    Just sayin'.
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