The WoV Thread

[mickeycrimm]

I seen gr8player over at GF today. That's a blast from the past. He's like MDawg, he beats baccarat everyday.

It's been like ten years. The guy was very well mannered on WoV. But Shack asked him to resign his membership for pushing a negative EV game.

March 27th, 2014 at 8:15:24 AM

Quote: Wizard

"Let me preface this by saying that based on the posts I've seen, you appear to be well-spoken and act like a gentleman. Your good behavior is well appreciated

However, your message is 180-degrees the opposite of mine. This forum was never meant to be a place to boast about a secret way to beat baccarat and laugh at conventional use of math to analyze casino games.

That said, it is indeed my wish that you resign your membership and take your ideas elsewhere.

You are more than welcome to make a goodbye post and feel free to mention any other forum(s) where you may be found in the future. I would like to be able to say that we parted company on good terms."

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info.../2/#post344087

gr8player's last post:

March 27th, 2014 at 8:37:32 AM

"No problem, Wizard, as I wish not to remain where unwanted. No hard feelings, and I do wish to thank you for the opportunity to be active in a wonderful forum such as yours.

I hope that no one harbors any ill-will towards me, as I surely hold no grudges towards anyone here. It's all good...

As always, and forever, I wish you all the very best of it."

[kewlJ]

Thanks mickeycrimm for that 10 year look back.

Gr8player's mistake was not paying wizard the "protection money".

[MDawg]

Looks like he's spent enough time shivering under the covers in his tunnel...the manic phase has kicked back in.

UNKewlJ's blood must be boiling about now.

All this talk about MDawg and no input from him other than a couple of "guest" appearances after he vowed

Not me, I am out.

to be gone for good?

Only a matter of time before he goes further on

and starts posting the 10X Multiplier Responses again nonstop.

On top of that the Mission146 posting of MDawg results served only to bolster MDawg's claims,

Mdawg has said he crushes casinos and has posted results.

Results have been tallied and they do show someone has crushed casinos.

Kewl sees this as affirmation and a victory.

Just lol what in the dumbfuckery is this.

that alone was enough to drive UNKewlJ into the manic frenzy we all observed, which ended with a crashing black depression. Once he manages to pull himself out of the dark tunnel (literal and figurative) he is in now, he'll be back.

[MaxPen]

Thanks mickeycrimm for that 10 year look back.

Gr8player's mistake was not paying wizard the "protection money".

Why aren't you busy crushing your unicorn VBJ machine?

Oh yeah, never mind, you're heading to the El Cortez restroom stalls to sell $20 BJs.....RIP

[Rob.Singer]

While kew may be always desperately looking towards WoV in his never-ending quest for relevancy, the only truly "relevant" item I've heard of over there is the death of Shack's beloved dog Oliver.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ continues with the unending nonsense including about MDawg as he is kept up nights thinking about me.

Here is what he posted at GF.com yesterday:
In a conversation in the last week with a forum administrator (not this forum), that used to own his forum but now is administrator, I guess, the gentleman said, he is "very aware that Mdawg has changed his claims and story many times over the years". That is a direct quote....word for word. And yet the person will not say that publicly. Publicly he continues to protect this nonsense that is the "adventure of Mdawg".

As usual, UNKewJ is lying. With Wizard's permission I post the following:

I spoke to Wizard about this: and he states that he did not say I am "very aware that Mdawg has changed his claims and story many times over the years" - rather he was simply referring to the "about even" statement where MDawg posted a clarification recently versus what was posted in 2021 about that "about even" statement.

One thing that needs to be addressed is how and why in October 2021, I posted something about how I was “about even.” I have discussed this with Wizard and he agrees that the truth about this needs to be posted given that Mission146 has taken the time to go through all of these session reports.

I posted that “about even” statement to get my thread unhidden. Wizard and I met that day socially, for about an hour in a casino VIP lounge, as he showed me some magic tricks and discussed “what it would take” to get the thread unhidden. We did not go over any session results. The “about even” post was made as an accommodation to get my thread unhidden, that’s it.

But I do know this, it is routine for tewlj to make shit up on the fly to push his false narratives. He'd rather climb to the top of a tree just to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth. So I call into question the "facts" tewlj attributed to MDawg's posts.

I don't have time to do it but I bet if I went over to WoV and read MDawg's thread, what MDawg actually wrote, and what tewlj says he wrote, are probably vastly different.

[MDawg]

TIME FOR AN UPDATE.

The thirty-two most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in and does not even live in, where he can’t even get his story straight about what is and what is not allowed by the condo CCRs, and lies about “renting it out” AirBnB style, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lies about news stories being broadcast about the backrooming incident, lies about the fictional settlement related to the fabricated incident, (8) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (9) the rigged shuffler, (10) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (11) $50K multi hand VP hit, (12) lied about hutting a $4000. Royal at Hooters (now OP) with $15. free play. (13) winning a car, (14) the lie about never asking anyone else to prove anything, (15) the lie about knowing attorney Nersesian well or at all, and having him on "speed dial," (16) lies that made it clear that he has never filed taxes as a professional gambler, (17) fabricated sports bets, (18) lies about that he has calculated his exact "expected win" over a decade and a half period, (19) lies about ever playing blackjack other than red green chip action as cover for a sugar daddy hustle, (20) lying about how “many” APs know him, (21) lies about how “many” APs have offered to “hire him” for their blackjack teams, (22) lying and claiming that he has never told others how they should post and about what, (23) lying about never posting again about this or that or on this or that forum, (24) lying about why he was nuked from WOV, trying to imply that he left on his own accord, (25) lying about that he “always discloses his socks up front” (q.v. Magister), (26) lying about having gone to college after claiming for years that he never did, (27) lies about the "oily" surfboard, (28) lied about whether or not he was gay, (29) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted, (30) continuing to lie about what the “about even” statement of MDawg means even after realizing that it means absolutely nothing, (31) a concocted electronic blackjack game he hadn't "studied up" on enough before presenting to the crowd, (32) Lied about and misquoted the Wizard.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

I would put FraudJ's claim of a $100k lick on $50 free play as less likely than any of Grandpa Newell's stories.

I do know. You're lying and you buried yourself yet again. Get help....RIP

He would be an idiot if he gave the chance of your 50 to 100k story to be anything but zero.

He also can't give us details about what machine hit the $100K for $50 freeplay because...no amount of "studying up" can get him out from under these lies.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!

[MisterV]

I got a week's suspension by the Wiz for the following:

"Hey Nathan, this could be your Golden Opportunity; did you know that Soopoo is a physician?

Perhaps if you ask nicely he'll give you free medical advice and assistance, the same way that the hound gave you legal advice and assistance.

You go, girl."

He says I insulted both of them; I say "Bullshit, you're just fucking ban-happy, protecting the Teacher's Pets."

Fucking Land of the Lotus Eaters...

[Rob.Singer]

I got a week's suspension by the Wiz for the following:

}Hey Nathan, this could be your Golden Opportunity; did you know that Soopoo is a physician?

Perhaps if you ask nicely he'll give you free medical advice and assistance, the same way that the hound gave you legal advice and assistance.

You go, girl."

He says I insulted both of them; I say "Bullshit, you're just fucking ban-happy, protecting the Teacher's Pets."

Fucking Land of the Lotus Eaters...

It is a true mystery why so many people constantly complain about how WoV is run and operates, yet at the same time they will not leave the place for good. Weakness personified.

[MisterV]

It is a true mystery why so many people constantly complain about how WoV is run and operates, yet at the same time they will not leave the place for good. Weakness personified.

While your "question" is rhretorical, I'll answer anyway.

I stay there because overall I find it still has value to me.

Robert, it is sort of like being in a rough marriage...once in awhile you need to dodge a bit of thrown crockery, other times things are just fine.

Were there other gambling forums that interest me I'd probably move on.

My point though was not that the place sucks: I'm saying the Wizard was full of shit on this one: there was no insult, neither implied nor obvious.

[Rob.Singer]

UNKewlJ continues with the unending nonsense including about MDawg as he is kept up nights thinking about me.

Here is what he posted at GF.com yesterday:
In a conversation in the last week with a forum administrator (not this forum), that used to own his forum but now is administrator, I guess, the gentleman said, he is "very aware that Mdawg has changed his claims and story many times over the years". That is a direct quote....word for word. And yet the person will not say that publicly. Publicly he continues to protect this nonsense that is the "adventure of Mdawg".

As usual, UNKewJ is lying. With Wizard's permission I post the following:

I spoke to Wizard about this: and he states that he did not say I am "very aware that Mdawg has changed his claims and story many times over the years" - rather he was simply referring to the "about even" statement where MDawg posted a clarification recently versus what was posted in 2021 about that "about even" statement.

One thing that needs to be addressed is how and why in October 2021, I posted something about how I was “about even.” I have discussed this with Wizard and he agrees that the truth about this needs to be posted given that Mission146 has taken the time to go through all of these session reports.

I posted that “about even” statement to get my thread unhidden. Wizard and I met that day socially, for about an hour in a casino VIP lounge, as he showed me some magic tricks and discussed “what it would take” to get the thread unhidden. We did not go over any session results. The “about even” post was made as an accommodation to get my thread unhidden, that’s it.

But I do know this, it is routine for tewlj to make shit up on the fly to push his false narratives. He'd rather climb to the top of a tree just to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth. So I call into question the "facts" tewlj attributed to MDawg's posts.

I don't have time to do it but I bet if I went over to WoV and read MDawg's thread, what MDawg actually wrote, and what tewlj says he wrote, are probably vastly different.

It doesn't matter how many times any posts or comments or any facts are explained. After kew uses his sick, psychotic, one-track mind to twist & spin the meaning or truth of any issue into something more comfortable so that he can live with himself another miserable day, he will forever repeat those lies and claim everyone else has been similarly convinced.

He does this of course to make up for his self-loathing and extreme feeling of inferiority--and especially compared to mdawg for being successful in life and his reporting of winning at gambling, and because I had him publicly pegged as a fabrication-crazed phony right from the moment I read his first post. His relentless pursuit of attention and relevance in the virtual world combined with his having to live a real life of misery and failure brought on by weakness, being gay, serial lying, and a lack of education and street smarts, has all had a part in the creation of this bona fide forum laughing stock and whipping post.

I hope everyone enjoys the fool's demise and torment as much as me!

[MDawg]

It doesn't matter how many times any posts or comments or any facts are explained. After kew uses his sick, psychotic, one-track mind to twist & spin the meaning or truth of any issue into something more comfortable so that he can live with himself another miserable day, he will forever repeat those lies and claim everyone else has been similarly convinced.

He does this of course to make up for his self-loathing and extreme feeling of inferiority--and especially compared to mdawg for being successful in life and his reporting of winning at gambling, and because I had him publicly pegged as a fabrication-crazed phony right from the moment I read his first post. His relentless pursuit of attention and relevance in the virtual world combined with his having to live a real life of misery and failure brought on by weakness, being gay, serial lying, and a lack of education and street smarts, has all had a part in the creation of this bona fide forum laughing stock and whipping post.

I hope everyone enjoys the fool's demise and torment as much as me!

Rob, you certainly have the UNKOOL1 number though, you have him pegged !

[MaxPen]

I got a week's suspension by the Wiz for the following:

"Hey Nathan, this could be your Golden Opportunity; did you know that Soopoo is a physician?

Perhaps if you ask nicely he'll give you free medical advice and assistance, the same way that the hound gave you legal advice and assistance.

You go, girl."

He says I insulted both of them; I say "Bullshit, you're just fucking ban-happy, protecting the Teacher's Pets."

Fucking Land of the Lotus Eaters...

Yet you go back over and over....lol

[Garnabby]

I got a week's suspension by the Wiz for the following:

"Hey Nathan, this could be your Golden Opportunity; did you know that Soopoo is a physician?

Perhaps if you ask nicely he'll give you free medical advice and assistance, the same way that the hound gave you legal advice and assistance.

You go, girl."

He says I insulted both of them; I say "Bullshit, you're just fucking ban-happy, protecting the Teacher's Pets."

Fucking Land of the Lotus Eaters...

Yet you go back over and over....lol

The thing about lawyers, they keep going back to cases where the original players - in this case, the people, and their forums - are long gone. Professional grudge-holding. Ha. Where it's, usually, profitable not to move on.

[mcap]

Whatever garnabby. That Zach guy says you don’t know shit about numerology anyway.

[Garnabby]

Whatever garnabby. That Zach guy says you don’t know shit about numerology anyway.

But I do scientific numerology. Ha. So, you have to take the i out of the quote above.

Whatever garnabby. That Zach guy says you don’t know sh...t about numerology anyway.

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[coach belly]

I stay there because overall I find it still has value to me.

What value, pleasure, satisfaction, or any measure of self-respect do you derive from picking on that woman?

[MisterV]

What woman?

Oh, Tasha / Nathan?

I got carried away; I'll try to be more chill in the future.

But it was sort of fun...like kicking the cane out of a cripple's paw.

[coach belly]

But it was sort of fun...like kicking the cane out of a cripple's paw.

Spoken like a genuine bottom-feeder.

[MisterV]

Pshaw.

More like "top of the food chain."