Bob Nersesian is NOT the same as a President of the U.S., or a King or Queen of a country, although some of us do think very highly of him.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
You mean like the dozens of times you claim to rub elbows with and have Bob Nersesian on SPEED DIAL?Originally Posted by kewlJAlan is making it sound like a "I have dined with Kings and Queens" type thing.
Any serious AP, especial here in Vegas or who plays Vegas regularly would be wise to keep his number handy.
C'mon guys, Alan only deals with 18 consecutive snake-eyes!
Okay, I cannot believe I am defending Alan here, but so be it. I just do not understand why some of you are having a hard time with Alan having conducted the interviews he conducted.
First off, if Alan wanted to say that he had dined with kings and queens, he would have said he dined with kings and queens. And then some of you would have said it didn't count because it was catered. But the sheer Dragnet fact is he didn't say that he dined with kings and queens.
Sticking with a Dragnet "just the facts" presentation, Alan having interviewed four presidents implies, if not flat out states, several things:
1) He wasn't working for some podunk media outfits (back in my youth, I worked for several what the folks here would undoubtedly consider podunk papers).
2) Wherever he was working when he did the interviews, Alan was likely the flagship interviewer at that media outlet, otherwise he would not have gotten the assignments.
I have no problem saluting Alan's media status and achievements. Instead of trying workarounds to denigrate what he did, why not just acknowledge what he did?
There is an implied element of "I interviewed four presidents, and YOU DIDN'T," but guess what? Those are the facts. He didn't get to interview presidents by winning participation awards. He earned those interviews. You and I did not.
I have no idea why people have a hard time accepting what Alan did -- is it because he touts stops losses? That's really not a reason. Uri Geller rose to fame by fooling a handful of SRI physicists, the best in their field. Expertise in one arena does not translate into expertise in another. I think too many alleged APs think they have some kind of blanket gambling skill. Well, I'm here to tell you that, really, the idea that there is such a thing gets people into trouble more often than not.
People now question Alan's claims, no matter what they are, because of his unsubstantiated and frankly ridiculous claim of having witnessed a crapster roll eighteen yo's (elevens) in a row at Caesars.Originally Posted by redietz
The odds against that, per the Wiz, are simply so astronomical as to be impossible in the real world.
And that's just it: does he inhabit, at least at times, an unreal world?
I doubt it: he's pretty sharp
No, I suspect he made the claim just to stir shit up and now he owns it, to his detriment.
If I say "I had dinner with the Easter Bunny and Santa at the north pole" any other claim I make would be suspect.
The flak he catches for it is a damned shame, as I believe Alan to be a good man.
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I don't have a problem with his presidential reporting claims. I would just like some clarity as to what extent the interviews were. Extraordinary claims that can be widely interpreted deserve at least as much explanation as went into why counting two tables is impossible.Originally Posted by redietz
A dumass like maxiepad don't have the comprehension to interpret anything. Get the nine inch out of your mouth long enough to get out there and stepandfetchit, poser pro.Originally Posted by MaxPen
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Originally Posted by redietz
Nope, I’m not questioning Alan on the interview claims. But it has no validity towards his other claims.
RED, you can back up most of your claims over the years, Mick certainly can if put on the spot if he wanted to, KJ, JB and so many others could fit the right amount of money. Not sure why you would, but in 1000 years at a craps table, could Alan. And that’s why Alan is considered a joke.
Math, it’s a son of a bitch.
Let's remember, the claim is interviewed 4 different presidents. I would think any journalist interviewing a President would request a copy. Seems like it might be something you might want to show kids and grandkids. And according to Alan, he had 4 different opportunites at that.
But other than that I don't really care one way or the other except for how it came up. Contact matters! And the context of this was about 18 y.o.s in a row. Someone asked why, as a journalist he didn't seem to document and verify such a rare event. And Alan's answer was that he has seem and experienced it all, including interviewing 4 Presidents and a Queen. As if to say that gives 18 y.o.' claim credibility. Like you have to believe 18 y.o.s in a row because he has interviewed President.
I can help you with your dilemma.Originally Posted by MaxPenI don't have a problem with his presidential reporting claims. I would just like some clarity as to what extent the interviews were. Extraordinary claims that can be widely interpreted deserve at least as much explanation as went into why counting two tables is impossible.Originally Posted by redietz
Kew never explained how counting two table is POSSIBLE, which would more appropriately align with your asking about Alan's presidential interviews. He ducked and weaved around the issue, each time more awkward than before, and when pressured he folded like a cheap lawn chair. First, he distanced himself from Alan when challenged to meet up and prove he could do it. And, when push came to shove, he downgraded his foolish claim to "gee guys, I really only meant it can be done when everything is perfect, which isn't that often, and then, it wouldn't be that accurate anyway".
Why is it impossible that kew could count two tables simultaneously?
1. He's not bright enough to run numbers that quickly thru his head.
2. He is completely incapable of hiding what he says he does from the casino.
3. He hasn't the temperament to accomplish any of it on any positive level.
4. His love for creating chaos and drama would overtake any event in the blink of an eye.
Actually, I DID explain it...over and over again. Anyone with half a functioning brain, I am sure understood it. You, Alan and a few other haters just refuse to understand.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
The rest of your post is just typical grandpa sock puppet nonsense. You making up reason why I can't do this or that, just confirms that you know damn well I do.
More trying to lie your way out of another impossible situation you've created for yourself via concoction. Just like when you tried to weasel out by claiming "Alan's pictures are purposely blurry!" Followed up by saying how you "know" it can be done because "other unnamed pros do it"Originally Posted by kewlJActually, I DID explain it...over and over again. Anyone with half a functioning brain, I am sure understood it. You, Alan and a few other haters just refuse to understand.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
The rest of your post is just typical grandpa sock puppet nonsense. You making up reason why I can't do this or that, just confirms that you know damn well I do.
You're a bad excuse for a joke kew. Every forum you've ever been on releases that truth about your pathetic self.
My goodness, you are an angry OLD man. So you failed as an AP. It's not for everybody.
Originally Posted by The BozOriginally Posted by redietz
Nope, I’m not questioning Alan on the interview claims. But it has no validity towards his other claims.
RED, you can back up most of your claims over the years, Mick certainly can if put on the spot if he wanted to, KJ, JB and so many others could fit the right amount of money. Not sure why you would, but in 1000 years at a craps table, could Alan. And that’s why Alan is considered a joke.
Math, it’s a son of a bitch.
The god of odds accepts no prayers, but he certainly takes donations.
Oh, I'm not defending Alan's stop loss ideas or various theoretical claims at all. As far as the 18 yo's goes, I've offered my thoughts before and nobody, including Alan, buys them, so I have no further ideas on that. What I said was that I believed Alan saw something highly unusual. It may not have been 18 due to miscount, but because Alan doesn't drink or do drugs, I do assume he was in the ballpark, maybe 12 or 13 or more, which is still impossible unless a pair of rigged dice was inserted accidentally into the equation, even though those rigged dice served no purpose for house or players. Rigged dice exist, Alan hasn't made any other claims of Venusians capturing him or his doing handstands for a mile or anything like that, so the chance that he is out and out lying on this is very small. The chance that 18 in a row happened with normal dice is basically impossible. So, to me, to quote Sherlock Holmes in The Sign of the Four, when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
But for some reason nobody wants to consider the concept of rigged dice accidentally brought into play, including Alan.
Janet is out of the hospital. We're back in a Salt Lake City hotel near the hospital because she will still get daily check ups and treatments. She had a third bone marrow stem cell transplant infusion yesterday. We pray three times is the charm.
Redietz I don't dismiss rigged dice. But the stickman rattled the dice on the table at least twice and they appeared to be unweighted. And each time the dice were returned to the shooter I know the dice faces were turned.
Were they rigged dice? I don't know. But as I've said many times no one made a nickel betting yo.
Kewlj please... you never really explained how counting two tables at Treasure Island was possible.
Yes my pictures were blurry but what I tried to show was that the blackjack tables were in a straight line and when sitting in a middle seat it was impossible to see cards on the tables to your right or left because of the placement of the tables.
Further there were lips on the tables that obscured your view unless you had a bird's eye view.
Why TI? Because it was one of the casinos you mentioned.
You had an opportunity to meet me there and show me your ability. The blackjack pit was empty at 3am. No one would have bothered us.
And this angle of the tables, and the height of the lip, has nothing to do with seeing paint or pips at 100 feet. The angles made it impossible to see cards-- period.
How many times have I asked any forum member to SIT at a table at a casino to see for themselves? Only Redietz says he STOOD behind one table. Well, standing behind ain't the same as sitting at.
Honestly Kewlj you can't explain how it's done you've got to show how its done.
Now... I'll make a concession. If blackjack tables are grouped so there is a curve a middle seat player just might be able to see the cards at nearby tables. But watch that lip and the depression of the table surface... unless you have x-ray vision.
18yos. Totally routine occurrence.
Winning 99% of baccarat sessions over 3 years. Completely believable.
Using eyeballs in head to look between two tables.
UNPOSSIBLE!
He gets an A+ for consistently stupid.Originally Posted by jdaewoo
With that said. I am glad to hear of Janet's appearance of progress. May that continue. In the end that's all that really matters.
I too am delighted to hear of Janets progress and hope it continues.
Alan, I realize you are sitting in a room in Utah with nothing to do, but I am not going to rehash the whole tracking a second table thing for your entertainment. I will make this brief statement and then you are on your own.
In you quest to disprove me, you have bounced around from, 1) can't see the cards (too blurry), to 2) people blocking the table, to 3) this "lip" argument. The lip argument the most ridiculous of your attempts. Unless a players eyes were level with the table (which would have him sitting on the floor), this lip is just completely irrelevant. If the "lip" blocks anything at all it would be the lower portion of the players stack of chips, which are up against the edge. The playing surface, where the cards are dealt, is no where near the edge, nor effected by this lip. Even your blurry pictures showed this!
Of your arguments, the only one that holds ANY water at all, is players blocking the line of vision and I have always said "when conditions were right". I have even explained in detail just what the key seat was in each scenario. If that seat is occupied, conditions probably aren't right, although that depends on the exact set up and spacing of tables.
That is all I am going to say. You can re-hash to your hearts content.
All you had to do was show up at TI.
First, he's trying to keep his anonymity due to being a counter; were he to meet you, especially in a casino where his pic with you would be taken. that wish would be compromised.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Second and most importantly think back to when you were a kid and recall some of the taunts kids threw at each other; ever hear "I'll show you mine if you show me yours?"
Same same ... you should first show us how 18 yo's in a row were rolled before his duty to show you anything ripens.
BTW, good news about Janet.
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