The WoV Thread

[jdog]

let's mention the comment of numerous trespasses for a machine play that does not require ID

I caught that too... and there's also the fact that the last thing a counter would want is to risk is a trespass and a possible Griffin entry.

kewl - Making VCT Great Again!

[accountinquestion]

Goddammit Kewl I told you to run them by me first. Hell ! Let me author them.

[kewlJ]

First, your welcome to Druff for breathing some life into this all but comatose forum over the past weeks.

I haven't talked specific of what we (and Rob, that we is my brother and I) are doing in the 5 weeks we have been working this play and I am not going to now. I have shared specific with only a couple other APs, only one on this forum and only because I valued their opinion. Maybe I will discuss some if it when it is finally over, or maybe not. I haven't really decided yet. But if I do it will be when I am sure this play is over, not only for us, but for any other APs and teams (competition) that is playing it. And we are running into some if that. Even when we are done, I won't reveal anything that can harm anyone who may play it to the very end.

But what I want to comment on is some general mis-information being thrown about.

MaxPen: you really think that all players need to do to avoid getting trespassed is to play unrated?

Come on dude..you know better than this. What are you doing? Playing rated makes it EASY for casinos to identify us, but playing unrated doesn't stop it. Just makes it a little harder. Most midsize or larger casinos have some form of facial recognition software. And this software has improved and casinos utilization of it has improved, as has the different databases, including some Govt databases they connect to. Playing unrated dies not stop casinos from identifying players they want to identify. Not in any way. So stop THAT silliness. You know better

Jdog, you mentioned Griffin database. Before we pursued this we discussed and evaluated how we wanted to attack it...milking vs slaughter and what the consequences might be.

So that was and remains a definite concern. But "griffin" is hardly the specific concern. Griffin..... What do you think it is 2004?

Where we primarily play blackjack, Vegas, Griffin is barely anything. After pulling completely out if Vegas after Grosjean forced them into bankruptcy, they eventually returned to the Vegas market, but they are a tiny fraction of what they were. They are RC cola compared to the two bigger colas that dominate. And they are not the primary database if ANY casino. Those that subscribe to griffin, also redundantly subscribe to one or both of the bigger...and more efficient databases. So Griffin is NOT the concern.

That is all. Spread whatever mis-information you want to in your attempt to discredit me. That is all you goofy bastards do now.

[MaxPen]

First, your welcome to Druff for breathing some life into this all but comatose forum over the past weeks.

I haven't talked specific of what we (and Rob, that we is my brother and I) are doing in the 5 weeks we have been working this play and I am not going to now. I have shared specific with only a couple other APs, only one on this forum and only because I valued their opinion. Maybe I will discuss some if it when it is finally over, or maybe not. I haven't really decided yet. But if I do it will be when I am sure this play is over, not only for us, but for any other APs and teams (competition) that is playing it. And we are running into some if that. Even when we are done, I won't reveal anything that can harm anyone who may play it to the very end.

But what I want to comment on is some general mis-information being thrown about.

MaxPen: you really think that all players need to do to avoid getting trespassed is to play unrated?

Come on dude..you know better than this. What are you doing? Playing rated makes it EASY for casinos to identify us, but playing unrated doesn't stop it. Just makes it a little harder. Most midsize or larger casinos have some form of facial recognition software. And this software has improved and casinos utilization of it has improved, as has the different databases, including some Govt databases they connect to. Playing unrated dies not stop casinos from identifying players they want to identify. Not in any way. So stop THAT silliness. You know better

Jdog, you mentioned Griffin database. Before we pursued this we discussed and evaluated how we wanted to attack it...milking vs slaughter and what the consequences might be.

So that was and remains a definite concern. But "griffin" is hardly the specific concern. Griffin..... What do you think it is 2004?

Where we primarily play blackjack, Vegas, Griffin is barely anything. After pulling completely out if Vegas after Grosjean forced them into bankruptcy, they eventually returned to the Vegas market, but they are a tiny fraction of what they were. They are RC cola compared to the two bigger colas that dominate. And they are not the primary database if ANY casino. Those that subscribe to griffin, also redundantly subscribe to one or both of the bigger...and more efficient databases. So Griffin is NOT the concern.

That is all. Spread whatever mis-information you want to in your attempt to discredit me. That is all you goofy bastards do now.

If this is your video blackjack nonsense you were talking about earlier. There is pretty much a zero chance of trespass on something like that. At worst they come over and shut the machine down. We already know that story was bullshit. Maybe this is another tale?

Hopefully you or your brother hit a six figure lick on a $50 sign up bonus before this is over. Good luck

The only times I or anyone I know have ever been trespassed with machine play is when waiting on a hand pay, claiming a rebate, or allowing selves to get trapped. A dude in a suit telling you he doesn't want you in there isn't a trespass. Pretty much if you don't get a form with your legal name on it you are not trespassed.

[MDawg]

Even when we are done, I won't reveal anything that can harm me.

This is of course the philosophy that has guided UNKewlJ all his online life. In a pig's eye!

The reality of course is...that all he cares about is trying to make people believe him, with nothing at stake because there is nothing going on. So, he reveals as much as he can in the way of fabricated details, to try to make his fable believable.

If I had to ask myself and wonder why someone would stay and keep taking a pounding while taking into account all the bad things they claim have happened to them....

I would have to guess that it's all BS, therefore nothing bad has ever happened to them, and therefore there's no real reason to leave/ stop.

[jdog]

[mcap]

Whatever V, maybe you should do an AMA about impersonating a lawyer on the internet too.

How do you know that I'm not?

Bwa ha ha ha

Just sayin'...

Like I say to everyone like you, go back to Gresham you fucking hipster

[MisterV]

Like I say to everyone like you, go back to Gresham you fucking hipster

Good grief, why would I want to do that?

Gresham?

Pshaw...Lake Oswego maybe; one nice thing about having money is I can afford tp live in a nice area: not all of Portland is a shithole, Einstein.

Since the hipsters took over the NE stumptown ghetto, east Portland (including Gresham) is increasingly the home of displaced spooks and of course wetbacks.

Lot of murders out that way these days, not that it bothers me at all.