The WoV Thread

[jdog]

let's mention the comment of numerous trespasses for a machine play that does not require ID

I caught that too... and there's also the fact that the last thing a counter would want is to risk is a trespass and a possible Griffin entry.

kewl - Making VCT Great Again!

[accountinquestion]

Goddammit Kewl I told you to run them by me first. Hell ! Let me author them.

[kewlJ]

First, your welcome to Druff for breathing some life into this all but comatose forum over the past weeks.

I haven't talked specific of what we (and Rob, that we is my brother and I) are doing in the 5 weeks we have been working this play and I am not going to now. I have shared specific with only a couple other APs, only one on this forum and only because I valued their opinion. Maybe I will discuss some if it when it is finally over, or maybe not. I haven't really decided yet. But if I do it will be when I am sure this play is over, not only for us, but for any other APs and teams (competition) that is playing it. And we are running into some if that. Even when we are done, I won't reveal anything that can harm anyone who may play it to the very end.

But what I want to comment on is some general mis-information being thrown about.

MaxPen: you really think that all players need to do to avoid getting trespassed is to play unrated?

Come on dude..you know better than this. What are you doing? Playing rated makes it EASY for casinos to identify us, but playing unrated doesn't stop it. Just makes it a little harder. Most midsize or larger casinos have some form of facial recognition software. And this software has improved and casinos utilization of it has improved, as has the different databases, including some Govt databases they connect to. Playing unrated dies not stop casinos from identifying players they want to identify. Not in any way. So stop THAT silliness. You know better

Jdog, you mentioned Griffin database. Before we pursued this we discussed and evaluated how we wanted to attack it...milking vs slaughter and what the consequences might be.

So that was and remains a definite concern. But "griffin" is hardly the specific concern. Griffin..... What do you think it is 2004?

Where we primarily play blackjack, Vegas, Griffin is barely anything. After pulling completely out if Vegas after Grosjean forced them into bankruptcy, they eventually returned to the Vegas market, but they are a tiny fraction of what they were. They are RC cola compared to the two bigger colas that dominate. And they are not the primary database if ANY casino. Those that subscribe to griffin, also redundantly subscribe to one or both of the bigger...and more efficient databases. So Griffin is NOT the concern.

That is all. Spread whatever mis-information you want to in your attempt to discredit me. That is all you goofy bastards do now.

[MaxPen]

First, your welcome to Druff for breathing some life into this all but comatose forum over the past weeks.

I haven't talked specific of what we (and Rob, that we is my brother and I) are doing in the 5 weeks we have been working this play and I am not going to now. I have shared specific with only a couple other APs, only one on this forum and only because I valued their opinion. Maybe I will discuss some if it when it is finally over, or maybe not. I haven't really decided yet. But if I do it will be when I am sure this play is over, not only for us, but for any other APs and teams (competition) that is playing it. And we are running into some if that. Even when we are done, I won't reveal anything that can harm anyone who may play it to the very end.

But what I want to comment on is some general mis-information being thrown about.

MaxPen: you really think that all players need to do to avoid getting trespassed is to play unrated?

Come on dude..you know better than this. What are you doing? Playing rated makes it EASY for casinos to identify us, but playing unrated doesn't stop it. Just makes it a little harder. Most midsize or larger casinos have some form of facial recognition software. And this software has improved and casinos utilization of it has improved, as has the different databases, including some Govt databases they connect to. Playing unrated dies not stop casinos from identifying players they want to identify. Not in any way. So stop THAT silliness. You know better

Jdog, you mentioned Griffin database. Before we pursued this we discussed and evaluated how we wanted to attack it...milking vs slaughter and what the consequences might be.

So that was and remains a definite concern. But "griffin" is hardly the specific concern. Griffin..... What do you think it is 2004?

Where we primarily play blackjack, Vegas, Griffin is barely anything. After pulling completely out if Vegas after Grosjean forced them into bankruptcy, they eventually returned to the Vegas market, but they are a tiny fraction of what they were. They are RC cola compared to the two bigger colas that dominate. And they are not the primary database if ANY casino. Those that subscribe to griffin, also redundantly subscribe to one or both of the bigger...and more efficient databases. So Griffin is NOT the concern.

That is all. Spread whatever mis-information you want to in your attempt to discredit me. That is all you goofy bastards do now.

If this is your video blackjack nonsense you were talking about earlier. There is pretty much a zero chance of trespass on something like that. At worst they come over and shut the machine down. We already know that story was bullshit. Maybe this is another tale?

Hopefully you or your brother hit a six figure lick on a $50 sign up bonus before this is over. Good luck

The only times I or anyone I know have ever been trespassed with machine play is when waiting on a hand pay, claiming a rebate, or allowing selves to get trapped. A dude in a suit telling you he doesn't want you in there isn't a trespass. Pretty much if you don't get a form with your legal name on it you are not trespassed.

[MDawg]

Even when we are done, I won't reveal anything that can harm me.

This is of course the philosophy that has guided UNKewlJ all his online life. In a pig's eye!

The reality of course is...that all he cares about is trying to make people believe him, with nothing at stake because there is nothing going on. So, he reveals as much as he can in the way of fabricated details, to try to make his fable believable.

If I had to ask myself and wonder why someone would stay and keep taking a pounding while taking into account all the bad things they claim have happened to them....

I would have to guess that it's all BS, therefore nothing bad has ever happened to them, and therefore there's no real reason to leave/ stop.

[jdog]

[mcap]

Whatever V, maybe you should do an AMA about impersonating a lawyer on the internet too.

How do you know that I'm not?

Bwa ha ha ha

Just sayin'...

Like I say to everyone like you, go back to Gresham you fucking hipster

[MisterV]

Like I say to everyone like you, go back to Gresham you fucking hipster

Good grief, why would I want to do that?

Gresham?

Pshaw...Lake Oswego maybe; one nice thing about having money is I can afford tp live in a nice area: not all of Portland is a shithole, Einstein.

Since the hipsters took over the NE stumptown ghetto, east Portland (including Gresham) is increasingly the home of displaced spooks and of course wetbacks.

Lot of murders out that way these days, not that it bothers me at all.

[MisterV]

Things seem to be heating up again at WoV.

The hound has irked Terapined sufficiently to cause a seven day suspension; well played, counselor; but do you seriously believe that a stoner living in an RV REALLY is a worthy opponent for you?

True, he has you pegged one hundred percent but hey, he smokes pot so how could he possibly be of any importance, eh?

You certainly seem to know how to play by the rules of each forum, and how to goad those who expose and denounce you as being the narcissistic bullshitter that you are into acts of self-immolation.

Is that a good thing?

[Tasha]

Things seem to be heating up again at WoV.

The hound has irked Terapined sufficiently to cause a seven day suspension; well played, counselor; but do you seriously believe that a stoner living in an RV REALLY is a worthy opponent for you?

True, he has you pegged one hundred percent but hey, he smokes pot so how could he possibly be of any importance, eh?

You certainly seem to know how to play by the rules of each forum, and how to goad those who expose and denounce you as being the narcissistic bullshitter that you are into acts of self-immolation.

Is that a good thing?

What got Terapined suspended was not only mentioning drama from another Website, but posting a screenshot of it. Terapined tried to get Mdawg into trouble for that screenshot and instead Terapined got a Suspension instead. Had Terapined not posted a screenshot from another Website, he might have not gotten Suspended.

On another Website, I myself got a strike for linking to another Website after Posters asked me to link proof of what I was saying. I linked the proof and saw a HUGE red flag when none of the Posters who asked me to link the proof thanked me for doing that. I thought ,"That's REALLY odd that none of the Posters thanked me!"

The Admin said something like,"Karen Nathan, you have received a strike for linking to another Website. Linking to outside Websites is strictly prohibited. The Posters who asked you to link your proof were setting you up into getting a strike. Multiple Posters have complained about you and have asked me if you are a Troll and even I question your motives, so I must give you a strike. I usually would not give a strike to a Newbie that was tricked into breaking a rule, I would have given you a warning told the Longer time Members that tricking Newbies into breaking Forum rules is unacceptable and could lead to distrust, but because I also question your motives, I must give you a strike. Three strokes is an automatic permanent banning. I have removed the link you posted." So I have also been in trouble for linking to outside Website like Terapined did. But in Terapined's case, Mdawg didn't trick him into showing the screenshot from the other Website, Terapined did that all on his own.

[MDawg]

Beyond that I responded to him in measured tones and didn't get into it with him online, I even offered him the chance to delete the post and "we all forget about it."

But, Some men you just can't reach.

[MDawg]

a stoner living in an RV

Yahs! That's what EvenBob said about him too.

[MisterV]

I don't disrespect Terapined for roaming the country in an RV: why not, if it's what one enjoys?

Some might envy the guy his freedom; to each his own.

I mentioned his cannabis consumption because we're kindred souls in that regard: the opinions of stoners are no less valuable than those of non-smokers.

[MDawg]

Terapined is an intractable old coot. Being stubborn and unwilling to change this thoughts or ways are his problems, not that he's an itinerant RV dweller.

[MisterV]

Why would you call him "intractable?"

He seems no more set in his ways than the average swinging dick; fact is I give him props for having the guts to reinvent himself and take to the road.

Remember these sage words..."Not all who wander are lost."

[MDawg]

Hard to miss actually.

From what I have been told, Terapined is some guy whose mind boggles and can't relate to anyone who has ever earned more than $50K a year.

As I pointed out, he was going on and on in 2020 and early 2021 about how there was no way MDawg would ever show his face in front of Wizard to be witnessed playing Baccarat, that this was "impossible" and "No way Mdawg allows us to see him."

He's extremely stubborn, opinionated and has a one track mind - quite different from any Deadhead of which I can think.

As I pointed out at WOV, every time he got suspended, he ran with his tail between his legs for up to a year or so, before returning - so you tell me if he takes forums and suspensions seriously or not. It is typically the guy who goes to great lengths to say he doesn't take any of this seriously, who takes it the most seriously of all (for example, look at UNKewlJ).

He did admit the error of his ways on one count yesterday, for which I give him kudos.

[MisterV]

Dawg, you incited him.

He discovered the stuff you penned about him and others on your website and it seems to have shocked him.

Unlike me, he was unaware of your proclivity to dissect others for your personal enjoyment, to "talk about them behind their back."

Were I a betting man (ha ha) I'd wager that Terapined, like many others at WoV, believe that you are more of a hindrance than help to WoV and that you should go away; they don't understand why the Wiz hasn't clamped down on you.

Me, I don't give two shits anymore as I don't post there these days; maybe someday I'll return but for now I see no point as I can say what I want here without some anal, PC fuckwit suspending me.

Terapined should post here and tell you what he really thinks about you, without fear of getting bounced.

[MDawg]

His attitude goes back on WOV since at least 2014, four years before I even arrived on the scene. You must have missed my documentation of that. Also, he's spent something like five months in the WOV can just for insults against me alone. Some men, you just can't reach.

He can't come over here and post because it would defrock his claim to "not care." It would turn him into another UNKewlJ sputtering nonsense day and night and all the time claiming that

I really don't care what people think about me.

Terapined is like that - all the time that he spends trying to insult MDawg, emulate him via his own "Adventures" thread wher eh eobviously coined the title from me, and making it obvious that I live within his smoked out cranium, he also tries to claim that "none of this matters to him" and it's "just a forum."

[MisterV]

I suspect it "matters" in a very limited sense only, i.e. only while posting / participating in the forum, but other than that?

Not so much.

For example, I cannot picture him motoring along through Independence Pass in Colorado, seething over your posts, plotting and scheming a smart retort.

Ain't happening.

[MDawg]

I have friends who no matter what reaction they posit or do not posit one day, the next day it's a closed chapter.

Others, the reaction might be muted around the time of whatever happened, and then literally months later I get the "what the FUCK, man!" call objecting to something that must have stewed and simmered over time until it finally boiled over. Usually something that was ostensibly trivial, too!

I don't know T.pined well enough to say definitely into which category he resides, but I do know that in the past when he's gotten suspended after some deliberate or not indiscretion, he's stayed away for very long times. One time he was suspended and then declared that he was done with the forum entirely and resigned. The fact that he was staying away for months only immediately after a suspension and there were no other long periods of absence other than immediately after a suspension does support, whether he wants to admit it or not, that he was stewing in resentment and ran off with his marbles.

Also, the way he kept coming back over and over again to making the same "only losers play Baccarat" posts and getting suspended for up to two months for that insult, doesn't seem indicative of someone who lets things go easily.


I'd say that you're somewhere in between the above two extremes I illustrated. You're not the type to let something to which you object simply go, but then neither do you keep coming back to it in any serious way. (At least not unless you are re-triggered.)

You know even one friend I have who is of the "What the FUCK!" variety after he's boiled over and had his say, then after some more time, he comes around too and doesn't care any longer.

One of the only persons I "know" in any sense, incapable of letting something go, is...UNKewlJ.

Kew is simply incapable of letting anything, however minor, go.

Her inability to let anything go is at least as "fascinating" as smurgerburger put it, as her inability to stop lying.