The WoV Thread

[MaxPen]

Mendelson wants it explained to him how to gain an edge in craps. He doesn't think it can be done. Well, there is no edge to be had at any bet in craps.

But what if you ran action at craps playing the passline with 10X odds. You would be giving up just 0.18%. Thats less than two-tenths of a percent.

And what if that craps action qualified you for all special events like freeroll craps tournaments, freeroll blackjack tournaments, freeroll keno tournaments, freeroll slot tournaments.

I know one gambler that worked this play for years in Reno. It was just one play in his rotation. He was so good at the craps and keno tournaments that he was eventually banned out of them.

He used the small house edge at craps to get the lucrative invites to the tournaments.

An unrestricted loss rebate promotion for the right percentage makes any game in the house positive.

Not telling you. Just pointing out how Alan's whole latest argument and challenge goes up in smoke with a one line reply.
This guy has to be one of the World's Greatest Idiots. The sort of fool that can sit in wonder at 36 possible combinations from two cubes for years as those devices grind out his entire life. Total dipshit. But God Bless him and others like him for keeping the casino lights burning brightly.

[The Boz]

LOL! Comrade Dietz has ran his ass right into AZDuffman. Duffman will clean his clock. Hey Ditz! Why don't you lay some socialist psychobabble on Duffman. See what you get. Hahahahahaha!!!!

Fans being permitted in stadiums scares RED because it shows a semi return to normalcy. He needs scared people to vote for liberals for his own personal gain. He wants death and fear to rule, not common sense.

I’m a Tampa Bay Bucs season ticket holder and it looks like they will be doing the same things, allowing a certain number of fans into games. But they are going to do it differently in who is allowed in for each game. This years ST money could either be refunded or used to pay for 2021 ST’s. You will have to pay again for individual game tickets you are allowed to buy. But if you took the refund, you can’t buy single game tickets. I don’t go to many games and was looking to make a huge score selling my seats with all the excitement around the team this year. The best laid plans go to hell quickly.

I know an individual up here in Massachusetts who purchased a pair of Tampa Bay season tickets this year. Not to go to the games, but to sell them on line. I was all set in getting tickets to one of the games. My wife would have been thrilled. Raymond James Stadium is just under three hours from the east coast side of the state. Oh well, maybe next year.

I’ve had them for a few years so I hope some consideration is given when being offered single game tickets. I would expect them to do it as they still have some ST holders from the initial season in 1976. More than 1/2 the current ST base bought them for the first time this year after the signing of Brady. The numbers have been declining for years based on the teams performance. Every year there are more and more quality seats to upgrade to as renewals fell. Brady changed all that but the Vid killed the profit potential for most of us.

When the schedule was announced and Brady was signed Stubhub was asking around $500 a seat for average seats for the Chiefs game and other games were all at least double face.

[MaxPen]

A few years ago I was looking at a 50 Cal and it was just over 10k
Today I seen this for a little over 7k and I have a little extra money so I could just go buy it.
I was looking at ammo for it and it runs about 325 per 100 rounds.
Does anyone think this firearm is worth the money compared to other things I could do with 10k?

https://www.armslist.com/posts/12121...uto-50bmg-82a1

I don't own a .50 cal anything. Never could justify a need despite witnessing firsthand their effectiveness. That seems like a great price though. I can't ever remember seeing a Barrett .50 BMG anything for less than $5k and that would have been over 10 years ago.

Seems to be a good store of wealth with that deal and less potential downside than many other things. Plus that could make for a few enjoyable trips out into the desert.

[The Boz]

Another stock I forgot to mention I love is Visa (V). It’s not cheap right now and is way up from CV lows but is a good earner in anyone’s portfolio. While Apple Pay and others try to cut into the market, the world is moving further and further into a cashless society. It only helps Visa and MasterCard. Definitely a stock to consider for short and long term growth that you won’t get burned on unless the market as a whole goes down.

[Rob.Singer]

Alan is a world class arguer.

I disagree with this.

Not saying he is a GOOD arguer, he just knows how to appear completely stupid for a long long time over a single disagreement. His goal is not to win but to stretch it out until he's able to get back to casino action. And that lasts until he loses his last dollar for the month. You've seen him post pictures of a couple $25 royals. What he NEVER shows or explains is how he has the same gambling problem as his son has as explained by him: if he wins a jackpot at a lower denomination he runs right into the hi limit rooms to take some pot shots. Then win more or not, it only takes a day or two before every cent disappears. He has cried to me about this unstoppable behavior more than once.

[tableplay]

Alan is a world class arguer.

I disagree with this.

Not saying he is a GOOD arguer, he just knows how to appear completely stupid for a long long time over a single disagreement. His goal is not to win but to stretch it out until he's able to get back to casino action. And that lasts until he loses his last dollar for the month. You've seen him post pictures of a couple $25 royals. What he NEVER shows or explains is how he has the same gambling problem as his son has as explained by him: if he wins a jackpot at a lower denomination he runs right into the hi limit rooms to take some pot shots. Then win more or not, it only takes a day or two before every cent disappears. He has cried to me about this unstoppable behavior more than once.

That's a very good synopsis Ron - I agree with this.

[Ozzy]

Alan is probably the biggest gambling tard ever, on any of the forums.

[LMR]

A few years ago I was looking at a 50 Cal and it was just over 10k
Today I seen this for a little over 7k and I have a little extra money so I could just go buy it.
I was looking at ammo for it and it runs about 325 per 100 rounds.
Does anyone think this firearm is worth the money compared to other things I could do with 10k?

https://www.armslist.com/posts/12121...uto-50bmg-82a1

I don't own a .50 cal anything. Never could justify a need despite witnessing firsthand their effectiveness. That seems like a great price though. I can't ever remember seeing a Barrett .50 BMG anything for less than $5k and that would have been over 10 years ago.

Seems to be a good store of wealth with that deal and less potential downside than many other things. Plus that could make for a few enjoyable trips out into the desert.

[LMR]

Alan is probably the biggest gambling tard ever, on any of the forums.

Introducing the Ozzy AP gun.

[Deech]

Alan is a world class arguer.

I disagree with this.

Not saying he is a GOOD arguer, he just knows how to appear completely stupid for a long long time over a single disagreement. His goal is not to win but to stretch it out until he's able to get back to casino action. And that lasts until he loses his last dollar for the month. You've seen him post pictures of a couple $25 royals. What he NEVER shows or explains is how he has the same gambling problem as his son has as explained by him: if he wins a jackpot at a lower denomination he runs right into the hi limit rooms to take some pot shots. Then win more or not, it only takes a day or two before every cent disappears. He has cried to me about this unstoppable behavior more than once.

I clutch my chest as I am ready to agree with Rob regarding some personal evaluations. The individual he discusses is a native New Yorker that grew up within 30 miles of me. Certain people have certain attitudes. It is proper to ask multitude questions (by everyone), but when it the limit pushed? At some point, you take the abundance of new knowledge and decipher it I personally caught his wrath when stating that I was investigating a VCT issue with my 1959 Peugeout. Apparently, I was trolling. As I stated. technically, he was correct about trolling. No harm as he eventually yielded to my persistence (which was not about him). It is difficult sitting in the bleachers these days. But I love being in this misfit forum.

[accountinquestion]

A few years ago I was looking at a 50 Cal and it was just over 10k
Today I seen this for a little over 7k and I have a little extra money so I could just go buy it.
I was looking at ammo for it and it runs about 325 per 100 rounds.
Does anyone think this firearm is worth the money compared to other things I could do with 10k?

https://www.armslist.com/posts/12121...uto-50bmg-82a1

I bought a couple of 308s and am considering a 300 win mag but too lazy to go to nearby city to get a good deal. The nice thing about these calibers is they'll all run military steelcore bullets one can get. If you really want to fuck up shit like engines and such. 50bmg I will put off for a few years when I really have too much money sitting around. It'd be fun to shoot a few times but so impractical. Guns like that are fun to shoot at 300 yards and such. Not something readily available to me. I also expect that maybe there will be better deals on guns in the next year or so. Do people ever shoot 50 BMGs standing up? It is kinda an over-the-top I got everything I already want but can't afford a machine-gun sorta thing to buy.

[LMR]

They are shooting them, for real, in the movie, "Tread". A guy takes out his revenge on the local town folk in a supped-up bulldozer. If I recall, while standing up, the one guy took a couple of shots at it. Didn't do anything. I think that also the guy in the bulldozer had one.

[Ozzy]

I disagree with this.

Not saying he is a GOOD arguer, he just knows how to appear completely stupid for a long long time over a single disagreement. His goal is not to win but to stretch it out until he's able to get back to casino action. And that lasts until he loses his last dollar for the month. You've seen him post pictures of a couple $25 royals. What he NEVER shows or explains is how he has the same gambling problem as his son has as explained by him: if he wins a jackpot at a lower denomination he runs right into the hi limit rooms to take some pot shots. Then win more or not, it only takes a day or two before every cent disappears. He has cried to me about this unstoppable behavior more than once.

I clutch my chest as I am ready to agree with Rob regarding some personal evaluations. The individual he discusses is a native New Yorker that grew up within 30 miles of me. Certain people have certain attitudes. It is proper to ask multitude questions (by everyone), but when it the limit pushed? At some point, you take the abundance of new knowledge and decipher it I personally caught his wrath when stating that I was investigating a VCT issue with my 1959 Peugeout. Apparently, I was trolling. As I stated. technically, he was correct about trolling. No harm as he eventually yielded to my persistence (which was not about him). It is difficult sitting in the bleachers these days. But I love being in this misfit forum.

Good ole Syracuse, gotta love those snowstorms.

[accountinquestion]

They are shooting them, for real, in the movie, "Tread". A guy takes out his revenge on the local town folk in a supped-up bulldozer. If I recall, while standing up, the one guy took a couple of shots at it. Didn't do anything. I think that also the guy in the bulldozer had one.

The real life story of this is a great story if you've never taken it in. One guy pissed at the town. I mean, he fucked up a lot of people's shit, but damn he went out in glory. I think the thing finally got stuck when it fell into a basement. It was a one way thing. Once he lowered the top down he was stuck in the thing like a casket.

edit lol. I assume the movie is about this.. I'll have to google Tread.

[Deech]

Some stocks to consider if you believe a company will come up with a “cure” are ones that are good companies that have been beaten down. Stocks that have lost 50% or more of their value, yet are still good companies will come back if things get back to normal. Note if you believe things are going to go to hell overall in America as Max and Monet are talking about, the market is not the place to be. They certainly make good points though and I certainly will be ready for that eventuality as well. And for the vast majority of investors, a simple market index fund is always your best bet as stats show 80-90% of individual investors don’t beat the index averages. After all, not everyone is MDawg and most end up like Dark Oz. The best mutual fund company out there in my opinion is Vanguard. Low fees and a large selection of index funds and managed funds.

As earnings are coming in for Q2 2020 you are seeing how Government decisions helped companies that were allowed to stay open. Target, Walmart, Lowe’s, Home Depot and others are reporting record earnings. So if you want to gamble on companies that have been hurt by this and willing to stick it out, I love travel and travel related stocks. Here are a few that are worth looking at if you have a well diversified portfolio and can take some risk.

Boeing (BA) They had the double whammy of the Max issue and loss of orders. But they are a stable company that will bounce back when (and if) things get back to normal. Selling at less than 50% of its high.

American Airlines, United, Southwest. Pick your favorite if you believe travel will come back.

Cruise lines like Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Norwegian. Same deal as the airlines. Well off their CV lows but still less than 50% of highs.

Retailers. Tough category because of the dominance of Amazon but there are a few I like including Ulta. It has done better than many during this with limited store openings. I love the stock long term as it hasn’t been affected by Amazon as it’s female customer face likes to go into the stores.

All of these stocks are CV affected and will continue to be, but have huge potential if a “cure” or vaccine is found. And unlike Darky betting it all on one stock, these win regardless of which company finds the cure.

Note I hold stock in many of these because I believe in them but they are not for everyone. And still believe as I said above, index funds are way to go for most. Not as sexy, but have always been great long term.

https://investor.vanguard.com/invest...tment-products

I agree wholeheartedly on your advise about index funds. I changed my portfolio about one year ago to 100 percent index funds. While Vanguard might be recognized as the best in the business regarding funds, I have my 401K with Fidelity so I have dispersed my money throughout their top 30 performers. I am not disappointed.

I also agree about being a vulture regarding underperforming industries. Airlines, cruise lines, and casinos might be the best candidates. Personally, I would believe the turnaround may occur when a proven vaccine is announced. The financial and real estate sectors are presently weak but I am not sure their rebound will be as quick as the other three areas.

Another thought is to have index funds based on a particular market. YTD the Dow Jones is -2.5%, the S&P 500 is +5.5%, and the Nasdaq is +25.0%.

My wife's 401K is up 17.5%. There are seven items that make up 75% of the portfolio; Apple (APPL +58%), Invesco Healthcare ETF (PTH +44%), Technology Select Sector SPDR Fund (XLK +25%), United Health Group (UNH +6.5%), Amazon (AMZN +75%), Microsoft (MSFT +33%), and Financial Select Sector SPDR Fund (XLF -19%).

As mentioned previously, my wife and my 401K's are our livelihood. From our perspective, our results from the market have been excellent in 2.5 of the last 3.5 years. There are many website tools that can aid in making better than average decisions. The again, we lost 38% just as everyone in 2008. Pain was added as we had a financial advisor at that time. I just wanted to emphasize that investing is not like printing money. But, in the long haul, investing is better than putting your money in your mattress.

[Rob.Singer]

There's zero need for a financial advisor if you have a Fidelity, T. Rowe Price, or other responsible 401k house taking care of your investments. The magic formula appears to begin with a Trump presidency. We haven't contributed to ours in years, yet after buying a car, a truck, several houses and a camper all for cash, we have almost the same amount in it as we did before the purchases. And now---we've got to deal with an inheritance. It just ain't fair.... Some of you won't like that, but that's where the anti-Trump mantra also comes from.

Of course, for those who reside in LV (my sympathies....) you've cashed your retirement accounts out and threw every penny into the poker machines or at the BJ dealers. Maybe Biden will give you a bail out if you ask!

[jbjb]

LMAO at the term "Jewish BBQ." Never heard that for a a fiery insurance job. I love it!!

And LOL at it being offensive. I see nothing offensive attacking any religion. Religion is a Scam!

[Deech]

Where I grew up, the term was Jewish Lightning. Frankly, nobody blinked an eye when it was stated.

[The Boz]

Where I grew up, the term was Jewish Lightning. Frankly, nobody blinked an eye when it was stated.

You beat me to it. We always suspected Jewish Lighting when a restaurant burned.

[MaxPen]

Where I grew up, the term was Jewish Lightning. Frankly, nobody blinked an eye when it was stated.

You beat me to it. We always suspected Jewish Lighting when a restaurant burned.

The restaurant business is perfect for it. Buy an outdated worn restaurant. Have a nice remodeling fire. Hold a new Grand Opening. Bring it to profitability. Sell it for multiples paid. Move onto the next one. The best thing about fires is the insurance has to pay even if you caused it. Unintentionally of course

People get themselves in trouble with insurance fraud when they try to make it look spontaneous. There's nothing illegal about being an idiot and causing an accidental fire that gets a bit out of control.