The WoV Thread

[BoSox]

Monet wrote:

"Try not to get too obsessive in collecting cookware like this guy lol...
He starts off by saying this is my PANtry in the kitchen lol lol lol.
We haven't been able to keep food in here for years!!"





It is all semantics anyway what difference does it make if your pantry is filled up with steel pans or firearms?

[BoSox]

Now I feel like buying a real wok.....holy hell
I just looked. I have some Calphalon wok. Never used it. Think it's non stick. I'm never going to use that. I don't like non-stick stuff. Unless it's ceramic.

"Just like any other basic fundamental in life. If you need someone to write you an instruction sheet for the basics then it's probably not a good fit for you. How do you handle someone else's dick in your wife?"

Right back at you using your own words smarty pants.

Ha,,,,,,nice to see you're still steaming about that comment.
But your reply just goes to show how prescient I was with my comment.

Ignoring the comment, I hope that you also get to spend at least 46 years with a good woman!

[monet]

It is all semantics anyway what difference does it make if your pantry is filled up with steel pans or firearms?

I'm starting to feel like you are not appreciating my wit or humor.
Do you not see the castIRONY in that video where he talks about his PANtry filled with PANS??
15 Firearms is a bit different compared to over 100 Cast Iron pieces of cookware.
If a person had a room filled with baseball cards it wouldn't be as shocking as someone with a room filled with Cast Iron Pans.
This is over 1300 pounds in weight!

It's like the recent song reco thread.
You were unable to "Händel" how "Sarabande" is setting up the next Movie Reco of Barry Lyndon!
It's a bit disappointing but I will endeavor to persevere!

[BoSox]

A fair warning here for yourself as I don't want you to be the last to know. If by chance you get down 10 cycles on your quad twos and you show up at home one day and your wife is busy at the stove with the wok and you say how come it is so quiet around here? Where is the dog? Don't be suprised.

Actually, I made quad deuces in the first 10 minutes of play last night but it was on 2 dollar bonus poker deluxe.
You probably don't see too many people mad about just making a quad for 800 dollars but I was reeling a bit lol.

I thought it was extremely admirable of you to be playing that two-dollar machine yesterday. You need to look at the positive side out of all of this. Possibly you were planning on getting two 50lb bags of Alpo on your way home from the casino. By only playing the $2 dollar machine the Alpo purchase would be a certainty, without risk, likely you were thinking ahead about something other than yourself, as in your dogs, again admirable. Besides who knows where RNG settings would have been on the $10 machine.

[monet]

I thought it was extremely admirable of you to be playing that two-dollar machine yesterday. You need to look at the positive side out of all of this. Possibly you were planning on getting two 50lb bags of Alpo on your way home from the casino. By only playing the $2 dollar machine the Alpo purchase would be a certainty, without risk, likely you were thinking ahead about something other than yourself, as in your dogs, again admirable. Besides who knows where RNG settings would have been on the $10 machine.

I'm not sure what you are shooting for here.
Trolling me?
Perhaps.
I'll play along.
I play low to mid level denomination games.
Certain days at certain places.
I play things like the 10 or 25 dollar denom because I can get the coin in very fast so I can move to the next card and or the next play.
One of the keys is to switch cards while you are a massive loser on that card.
This is not new information as I have discussed this before, in some detail, on this very forum.
I'm sure that you can understand since you play Black Jack.
It is the total coin in that matters.
The faster the better.
Now if you can play something like 100 play it is better than single line.
This has to do with variance.
Once you get past worrying about the actual dollar amount you can break through the proverbial wall so to speak.
I still play quarters.
Sometimes playing a quarter machine has a better hourly compared to a dollar machine.
I've talked about the 2 dollar 9/6 Bonus Poker Deluxe for years now.
Some think that it is a terrible game.
I beg to differ.

I like that you keep manipulating me into posting about this because most members want me to STFU about such topics.
Personally, I don't believe anyone is going to use the information and I like to share it for free anyways.
Fuck this idea of: "we don't talk about such matters."

I would never feed my dogs Alpo.
That's just mean!

You keep harassing me and I'm gonna take my ball and go home.
I'm gonna stop sharing my personal experiences with you.
You are starting to hurt my feeling.
My one feeling.

[BoSox]

I thought it was extremely admirable of you to be playing that two-dollar machine yesterday. You need to look at the positive side out of all of this. Possibly you were planning on getting two 50lb bags of Alpo on your way home from the casino. By only playing the $2 dollar machine the Alpo purchase would be a certainty, without risk, likely you were thinking ahead about something other than yourself, as in your dogs, again admirable. Besides who knows where RNG settings would have been on the $10 machine.

I'm not sure what you are shooting for here.
Trolling me?
Perhaps.
I'll play along.
I play low to mid level denomination games.
Certain days at certain places.
I play things like the 10 or 25 dollar denom because I can get the coin in very fast so I can move to the next card and or the next play.
One of the keys is to switch cards while you are a massive loser on that card.
This is not new information as I have discussed this before, in some detail, on this very forum.
I'm sure that you can understand since you play Black Jack.
It is the total coin in that matters.
The faster the better.
Now if you can play something like 100 play it is better than single line.
This has to do with variance.
Once you get past worrying about the actual dollar amount you can break through the proverbial wall so to speak.
I still play quarters.
Sometimes playing a quarter machine has a better hourly compared to a dollar machine.
I've talked about the 2 dollar 9/6 Bonus Poker Deluxe for years now.
Some think that it is a terrible game.
I beg to differ.

I like that you keep manipulating me into posting about this because most members want me to STFU about such topics.
Personally, I don't believe anyone is going to use the information and I like to share it for free anyways.
Fuck this idea of: "we don't talk about such matters."

I would never feed my dogs Alpo.
That's just mean!

You keep harassing me and I'm gonna take my ball and go home.
I'm gonna stop sharing my personal experiences with you.
You are starting to hurt my feeling.
My one feeling.

I am not trolling you. Thank you for that information. I have plenty more questions but unfortunately, I will keep them to myself as I do not want to hear the wrath of Mad Max "Beyond Thunderdome" Penn.

[RS__]

[blackhole]

Just the fact that AxelAss over at the WOV is willing to go endlessly toe to toe with MDawg is a true confirmation that AxelAss is a bag of stinky air full of shit.

No professional would carry on with all this back-and-forth nonsense which includes all the alleged AP phony idiots here and there willing to fight the same, who gives a shit fight.

If no one responded to MDawg’s claims where could the threads possibly go?

No bets or viewing is ever going to take place. You would think with all the experience always alleged on these gambling forums no one would have to point out the stupidity constantly being exposed in everyone’s face.

AxelAss, Darkie, and the rest always confirm how much of bullshitting artist’s they truly are with their endless responses attempting to prove how fucking clever they are. Including that loser Eliot hoping to drum up some business to help him limp through the rest of his retirement plagued by his losing gambling days. He certainly couldn't possibly be some well-off AP in his golden age. Just fits in with all the alleged bullshit these gambling forums are truly based on.

How come all the members who claim wisdom and knowledge about gambling are such obvious suckers? Answer: because they are SUCKERS.

[Garnabby]

One person's complete nonsense is an other's theory of everything.

P.S. A thought, from this morning: We are the undefined nuttiness, in every way, that, forever, remains on, in and out, of itself. Things alongside their solutions.

[mickeycrimm]

One of the things that Shack let slip thru his hands was redietz knowledge of sportsbetting. Shack failed to see and capitalize on having someone there with that kind of knowledge and experience. Or maybe Shack was afraid he might be exposed as not really that good at sportsbetting strategy. But it wasn't just Shack. All members over there missed out on a golden opportunity to gain knowledge in the field. All they had to do was ask redietz some questions. But it just goes to show that its not the gambling forum it used to be.

[kewlJ]

So, this morning I am reading that I resigned at WoV. Just for the record that is not true, that is Mr. Shackelford lying and being dishonest yet again. But I am fine with that it as I had planned to not return at this time. I was going to leave my options open for future participation, but that too is ok.

Just for the record: I was suspended for the following comment: These two threads should now be combined and the name changed to the never-ending troll of MDawg and coach belly. I DID NOT call MDawg or coach belly a troll.....I said the threat was a long running attempt at trolling. I earlier was suspended for using the word "fiction" to describe MFrauds great adventure and claims. In what world is either of these a personal attack? I guess Mr Shackleford's world, especially when he is going out of his way to protect a member making voodoo claims.

So here is how the "resignation" went down: Unable to PM Wizard after my suspension, I PMed him through his diversity forum. I told him that I didn't feel my comments were a personal attack and that I felt he was protecting MFraud's voodoo claims. I then said I didn't know if I could continue under these circumstances.

Wizard responded asking if I was resigning. Let me repeat that. He sent me a PM asking if I was resigning. That is important because before I could answer, he disabled the account. And now this morning I read where I have resigned.

Shackleford had to be leaned on to finally call out MFraud, a guy spewing voodoo claims on his forum for over a year and 250 pages now. Finally Wizard declared "it was time for MDawg to put up or shut up and show Mike his play" And since that time...nothing. It has gone right back to the way it was and Shackleford is once again protecting these voodoo claims by suspending people and phony "resignations". I suspect my signature here played a role. I don't apologize for that. Forum owners and administrators, especially guys considered gambling experts, have to call out members making math defying voodoo claims. To not do so makes them complicit.

Shackleford seems hell bent on driving away legit players, AP's and gamblers and making WoV, nothing but a voodoo forum, so my signature is most appropriate.

[blackhole]

Does this mean this site will now be blessed again with your righteous bullshit claims of helping newbies entering the wonderful world of Las Vegas Black Jack card counting careers?

When will you realize that it seems no one likes you or the bullshit you allege throughout your posts regardless how many different places you keep trying to call home? I say after 5 attempts you should be permanently banned from that site. I think if that rule existed you wouldn't be able to post anywhere today.

[Garnabby]

So, this morning I am reading that I resigned at WoV. Just for the record that is not true, that is Mr. Shackelford lying and being dishonest yet again.

When I was there, somewhat from the beginning of that forum, I questioned there that such forums were a healthy environment given Shackleford's many professional conflicts of interests there. Primarily that a so-called academic should and ought to dispense mathematical information at some price, for advertising, etc. I even asked an on-line psychologist to assess the value of such a forum, and, then, there posted up the response, from the psychologist. Everyone piled on me. Finally, JB made up a thread, with profanity, under username Garnabby, that I didn't start, or write. Then, everyone made up stuff, about me, as Garnabby, so, they replaced the phoney three-day or whatever suspension with a permanent one. Didn't take me more than a few weeks to find out how crooked Shackleford was. I put up a thread about it on the Gamblers Glen. Everyone piled on, again. His go-to science guy, Doc, has to be the most fake, or corrupt, academic, ever. Lol. Goddamn, people are stupid.

[mcap]

So, this morning I am reading that I resigned at WoV. Just for the record that is not true, that is Mr. Shackelford lying and being dishonest yet again.

When I was there, somewhat from the beginning of that forum, I questioned there that such forums were a healthy environment given Shackleford's many professional conflicts of interests there. Primarily that a so-called academic should and ought to dispense mathematical information at some price, for advertising, etc. I even asked an on-line psychologist to assess the value of such a forum, and, then, there posted up the response, from the psychologist. Everyone piled on me. Finally, JB made up a thread, with profanity, under username Garnabby, that I didn't start, or write. Then, everyone made up stuff, about me, as Garnabby, so, they replaced the phoney three-day or whatever suspension with a permanent one. Didn't take me more than a few weeks to find out how crooked Shackleford was. I put up a thread about it on the Gamblers Glen. Everyone piled on, again. His go-to science guy, Doc, has to be the most fake, or corrupt, academic, ever. Lol. Goddamn, people are stupid.

Shut the fuck up garnabby.

[kewlJ]

Does this mean this site will now be blessed again with your righteous bullshit claims of helping newbies entering the wonderful world of Las Vegas Black Jack card counting careers?

Blackhole, I am well aware you hate me because you are homophobic and I am gay, and because I am an AP and you are anti-AP, a losing gambler, who tells us, he enjoys losing at gambling (nothing wrong with that if that is what you like).

But is it asking to much for you to be truthful, just once?

I have never, not once encouraged any newbie card counter to follow my path, to follow in my footsteps. THAT IS JUST BULLSHIT!

I know ZenKing and a few others have made comments that I influenced them. One guy quit a fairly high paying career and then blamed me. Again, I never, never advised, suggested or encouraged anyone to do so. Why would I? That only creates competition for me? I simply shared some of my journey and experiences on gambling/AP forums.

Even my own brother, who after graduating college, came to live with me rather than returning to Florida. Arriving in the spring just after graduation, he immediately informed me, he wanted me to teach him to play blackjack for a living. I declined and told him this was not the career option for him and advised him to find a job, which he did. He kept kept pestering me for 6 months and I kept telling him time and time again, this was not a good career choice. He then learned to play blackjack (basic strategy) by reading online after 6 months, I agreed to help him. BUT only because he had shown a passion. Only after it became obvious that he was going to try, with or without my blessing and help.

[blackhole]

But is it asking to much for you to be truthful, just once?

I have never, not once encouraged any newbie card counter to follow my path, to follow in my footsteps. THAT IS JUST BULLSHIT!

I know ZenKing and a few others have made comments that I influenced them. One guy quit a fairly high paying career and then blamed me. Again, I never, never advised, suggested or encouraged anyone to do so.

I never accused you of encouraging anyone to follow your steps into the almost non-existent card counting career you claim to have accomplished in Las Vegas for whatever time you allege, I think it was 17years. I know, I know, you're just a slick dude or whatever. Comp cards, Identification, pit bosses, dealers, cameras, all combined just can't catch up to your slickness.

In today’s world everyone has access to enough resources to figure out for themselves that trying to make a long-term living card counting especially in Vegas is a stupid, risky, career idea with a 98% change of doom. Don’t you realize that most here recognize how little you must be actually making if you’re still allegedly pulling this off for almost two decades in Las Vegas of all places?

You claim others have complained you influenced them to give it a go and failed. If you are influencing guys like ZenKing that alone speaks for itself. You would have to be a somewhat mental patient to read your bullshit on anonymous gambling forums and even consider taking what you post for fact. No different than taking other foolish alleged un-proven claims on these forums like AxelAss, Darkie, MDawg, the list is long. ZenKing obviously is the perfect example of who you would expect to buy these un-proven gambling fairy tales and give it a go.

In most populated areas in this country, with good access to plenty of what this country has to offer for a good life, your alleged salary would be a person living week to week.

[Darkoz]

But is it asking to much for you to be truthful, just once?

I have never, not once encouraged any newbie card counter to follow my path, to follow in my footsteps. THAT IS JUST BULLSHIT!

I know ZenKing and a few others have made comments that I influenced them. One guy quit a fairly high paying career and then blamed me. Again, I never, never advised, suggested or encouraged anyone to do so.

I never accused you of encouraging anyone to follow your steps into the almost non-existent card counting career you claim to have accomplished in Las Vegas for whatever time you allege, I think it was 17years. I know, I know, you're just a slick dude or whatever. Comp cards, Identification, pit bosses, dealers, cameras, all combined just can't catch up to your slickness.

In today’s world everyone has access to enough resources to figure out for themselves that trying to make a long-term living card counting especially in Vegas is a stupid, risky, career idea with a 98% change of doom. Don’t you realize that most here recognize how little you must be actually making if you’re still allegedly pulling this off for almost two decades in Las Vegas of all places?

You claim others have complained you influenced them to give it a go and failed. If you are influencing guys like ZenKing that alone speaks for itself. You would have to be a somewhat mental patient to read your bullshit on anonymous gambling forums and even consider taking what you post for fact. No different than taking other foolish alleged un-proven claims on these forums like AxelAss, Darkie, MDawg, the list is long. ZenKing obviously is the perfect example of who you would expect to buy these un-proven gambling fairy tales and give it a go.

In most populated areas in this country, with good access to plenty of what this country has to offer for a good life, your alleged salary would be a person living week to week.

Blackhole, you are so pathetic.

I feel bad for you. Such a disappointment in life you have to imagine everyone else is.

I'm guessing you live in a tiny hovel with a hot plate cause your stove don't work and you can't afford to fix it.

Sad. Stop losing the money from your welfare check to the Casinos. You will feel better if you do

[blackhole]

Blackhole, you are so pathetic.

I feel bad for you. Such a disappointment in life you have to imagine everyone else is.

I'm guessing you live in a tiny hovel with a hot plate cause your stove don't work and you can't afford to fix it.

Sad. Stop losing the money from your welfare check to the Casinos. You will feel better if you do

Funny how you could always tell when the truth hits a nerve. Is that the best your fairly tale writing talents could deliver? Who is the pathetic one?

[Darkoz]

Blackhole, you are so pathetic.

I feel bad for you. Such a disappointment in life you have to imagine everyone else is.

I'm guessing you live in a tiny hovel with a hot plate cause your stove don't work and you can't afford to fix it.

Sad. Stop losing the money from your welfare check to the Casinos. You will feel better if you do

Funny how you could always tell when the truth hits a nerve. Is that the best your fairly tale writing talents could deliver? Who is the pathetic one?

You!

[jbjb]

You guys need to block coachpedo in that thread over there and quit responding to him.