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  1. #6761
    Originally Posted by Mission
    As far as the content of his posts is concerned, I can't help but notice you can't cite any specific rule that they might be breaking.


    Oh great, another convert to the "Sure,anybody can have more than fifty successful baccarat sessions in a row" club.

    *Bronx cheer*

    Mission, the guy is clearly a troll given his claims are ridiculous.
    What, Me Worry?

  2. #6762
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    There are so many other smaller details that are also bullshit that haven't even been discussed or lightly discussed.

    I did lightly discuss the bullshit about being banned at blackjack at 2 casinos and then reinstated later. Mission came to Mdawgs defense, with some obscure circumstance that this has occurred. But basically there is one scenario that this will occur and that is if the player is a losing player much, much bigger at some other game.

    Now lets talk about almost every single day the pit compliments Mdawg on his play and tells him "he is the best player they have ever seen". Does anyone know how a pit managers job works? They are responsible for for their tables. they are graded on what the hold is for the tables, whether the tables report a win or loss. Now they are not going to get fired because some guy wins. That happens everyday. It is called variance. The casinos experience it just the same as every player (except Mdawg) experiences it. But while they won't get fired, it is not good for them to have tables that report a loss every day. So even if Mdawg was just the luckiest guy in the world, they are not going to be happy to see him and toast him like he is the king of the town.

    There are just so many pieces that doesn't fit, but we are supposed to stand there, with a guys dick out and pee running down our leg and accept that it is raining. And now Oncedear is telling us we should ignore that dick with a stream of pee to our leg, because it is good reading and brings "views". That is the new WoV.
    My scenario was that I was actually able to talk to the guy I needed to talk to. The casino in question would not show me as losing, so don't even try that line. They wouldn't show me as a big anything. Small-time player, wins somewhat. I was definitely winning there, just more than my card would look like because I didn't do any vulturing on my card, just worked the free play. The way their free play was set up is that you could maintain your offers with not very much play, so it was slight profitable and I was going to be vulturing there anyway. I also liked all of the free alcoholic beverage vouchers that I got because my fiancee (then girlfriend) and I would stay in a nearby hotel and the casino had a free shuttle to and from.

    Anyway, I'd go in and vulture with no card (which is where the vast majority of the profits were) and would maintain pickups that I think were $60 per pick up that could sometimes be combined with supplemental small offers and kiosk pick a prize things at an expected loss on the action to maintain those pick ups of about $30. IOW, whatever I made vulturing plus an expected +$58 (roughly, not counting supplemental offers) in exchange for an expected loss of about $30 and I was driving right past there twice a week anyway.

    Purely small-time stuff. I made about $200/week there, but I was managing a hotel full-time at the time, so that was a nice little weekly add for somewhere I'm driving right by anyway.

    So, why was I unbanned?

    1.) The Security Director (who I was able to talk to a few times) was perfectly fine with me being unbanned, but said I had to talk to the Marketing Director because it was his department that was impacted by what was going on. She said that there wasn't anything illegal about what I had been doing there, but it was a marketing department decision.

    2.) Covid-19 happened, prior to that, the guy hadn't responded to my E-Mails or occasional phone messages at all. Then, Covid, and the casino itself was closed. He answered his phone on the second ring, didn't know who it was, of course. I am a friendly and polite person. He said that I could come back, but I'd better never have cards that are in any name but mine on me ever again.

    Anyway, there you go. It had also been four or five years...I can't remember if this was in 2015 or 2016. I think 2016.
    Last edited by Mission146; 04-12-2021 at 04:21 PM.

  3. #6763
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    You’re just jealous I’ve been chatting with babes online all day.
    I know you set me up to post this clip.
    I fell for it but I'm an addict.
    The quote starts at about 1:01 of the video.



  4. #6764
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    Oh, you're breaking down individual members.
    Do Me Next!
    Do Me Next!
    Wait a second... that sounds pretty Fucking Gay.
    Don't do me, don't do me.
    You?

    You're a wealth of AP knowledge and you're fucking hilarious. I hope that we're able to hang out one day so you can shit all over me on the Forums, too. I feel left out sometimes.

  5. #6765
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    You?

    You're a wealth of AP knowledge and you're fucking hilarious. I hope that we're able to hang out one day so you can shit all over me on the Forums, too. I feel left out sometimes.
    I'll agree to a meet up but it has to be in your neck of the woods.
    Some ideal places to meet up and they are my old stomping grounds.

    Ohiopyle
    Mammoth Park
    Twin Lakes
    Confluence
    Monongahela River
    Yough River... yes it is the Youghiogheny River but people in the know call it the Yough... don't have to tell you, I'm sure.
    Monessen
    Ligonier... the river on the way to Idlewild... beside the bridge with the whirlpools where they don't let you drive across anymore.
    You know... on the way up to Linn Run.
    Where that bar/hotel burned down a couple a times and they rebuilt it.
    Used to be called Sleepy Hollow... probably still is or Ichabods.
    or... Smithton Beach.

    Requirements are at least a full weekend of fishing and camping.
    Last edited by monet; 04-12-2021 at 04:19 PM.

  6. #6766
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    You?

    You're a wealth of AP knowledge and you're fucking hilarious. I hope that we're able to hang out one day so you can shit all over me on the Forums, too. I feel left out sometimes.
    I'll agree to a meet up but it has to be in your neck of the woods.
    Some ideal places to meet up and they are my old stomping grounds.

    Ohiopyle
    Mammoth Park
    Twin Lakes
    Confluence
    Monongahela River
    Yough River... yes it is the Youghiogheny River but people in the know call it the Yough... don't have to tell you, I'm sure.
    Monessen
    Ligonier... the river on the way to Idlewild
    or... Smithton Beach.

    Requirements are at least a full weekend of fishing and camping.
    Shit, shoot me a PM when you'll be around! I'm down with fishing and camping...in a cabin...with electricity. Internet connection not required...preferably not, in fact.

  7. #6767


    Back in the 80s my father, uncles and I fished this River more times than I can remember.
    You turn left and go down the hill at the entrance and you used to be able to cross the bridge with whirlpools.

  8. #6768
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I'm down with fishing and camping...in a cabin...with electricity. Internet connection not required...preferably not, in fact.
    Pussy!
    You know you made that requirement just to get me to back out.
    Sort of like all the bets with Rob Singer and MDawg.
    Always some stipulation to make the other party not agree

  9. #6769
    I'd have to say that I'd have a small preference for either Ligonier or OhioPyle/Yough area.

    Ligonier just because we can always drive along 30 through the mountains if the fish aren't biting one day, that's a really nice drive. The wind farm is also kind of neat to look at driving as it just kind of pops up out of nowhere and seems to stretch for miles.

    OhioPyle just because I'm already familiar with it. We could hit up Lady Luck, but I promise there's barely a point of even walking in that one. The Meadows isn't ridiculously far away, but the only thing there, really is Ultimate X and Must-Hits. The Island would be about an hour and a half from there, so not worth the drive and there's one guy that tends to be there in the evenings that Joe taught all the plays to, so the only good vulturing time is when we'd be fishing.

    Although, screw the casinos anyway unless we get really bored. Around dusk? I'll take staring at a fire and bullshitting over stupid vulturing anytime!

  10. #6770
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I'm down with fishing and camping...in a cabin...with electricity. Internet connection not required...preferably not, in fact.
    Pussy!
    You know you made that requirement just to get me to back out.
    Sort of like all the bets with Rob Singer and MDawg.
    Always some stipulation to make the other party not agree
    I didn't say you had to be in a cabin with electricity. We can pay our own way if you don't want the cabin treatment. I'll have the other bed made for when the mosquitoes get to you and you change your mind.

  11. #6771
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I didn't say you had to be in a cabin with electricity. We can pay our own way if you don't want the cabin treatment. I'll have the other bed made for when the mosquitoes get to you and you change your mind.
    I have cans of OFF.
    That is all that is needed.
    Spray that shit all over you and eat it.
    Fun.
    Just did that when I went out to Lake Mead.
    Not many bugs but a few flies were pestering me.
    They got the Bug Spray and so did I.

  12. #6772
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I'd have to say that I'd have a small preference for either Ligonier or OhioPyle/Yough area.

    Ligonier just because we can always drive along 30 through the mountains if the fish aren't biting one day, that's a really nice drive. The wind farm is also kind of neat to look at driving as it just kind of pops up out of nowhere and seems to stretch for miles.

    OhioPyle just because I'm already familiar with it. We could hit up Lady Luck, but I promise there's barely a point of even walking in that one. The Meadows isn't ridiculously far away, but the only thing there, really is Ultimate X and Must-Hits. The Island would be about an hour and a half from there, so not worth the drive and there's one guy that tends to be there in the evenings that Joe taught all the plays to, so the only good vulturing time is when we'd be fishing.

    Although, screw the casinos anyway unless we get really bored. Around dusk? I'll take staring at a fire and bullshitting over stupid vulturing anytime!
    Route 30... I know it like the back of my hand and I haven't been on it since the early 90s.
    Great Area really.
    I'm getting all nostalic.
    Wish I had something like that near Vegas.
    So many spots in PA just to go for the day and enjoy the scenery, water and air.
    Great Place to live but Fuck the Property Taxes are impossible to deal with.

  13. #6773
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Although, screw the casinos anyway unless we get really bored. Around dusk? I'll take staring at a fire and bullshitting over stupid vulturing anytime!
    If and when I do go back to PA I certainly have no interest in going to the Casinos of any sort.
    It's been so long and too many memories for me.
    We are talking about where I grew up till about 16/17 years old.
    I just wouldn't have any time for anything related to Casinos.
    Damn You!
    Western Pennsylvania has to be one of the greatest places on Earth.
    I've been all over the States and only Oregon can really compete.
    I've also been all through New England but something special about PA.
    Probably because I grew up there.

  14. #6774
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    Route 30... I know it like the back of my hand and I haven't been on it since the early 90s.
    Great Area really.
    I'm getting all nostalic.
    Wish I had something like that near Vegas.
    So many spots in PA just to go for the day and enjoy the scenery, water and air.
    Great Place to live but Fuck the Property Taxes are impossible to deal with.
    Meh. Glad to rent. I did home ownership once, never again.

    That said, I think I'll move to Vermont after my kids are adults. Probably Montpelier, or something. Hard to say what the traffic on the sites will look like by then, (my daughter turns ten this year, for reference) so I don't know if I'll still be writing or not. Even then, it's not like it's hard to get rooms, so I can be away for about a week every month just to keep up with the different machines and other stuff needed to be able to know what I'm talking about in my articles.

    If something happens to the writing, then that's probably it for me and gambling, if the kids are adults by then. Vermont is a beautiful state and I LOVE walking in Winter. I'll literally spend ten hours just walking around town. I'll sometimes shovel driveways without even being asked just because I love being out in the cold. I'm perfectly content to live a dirt cheap existence, so going back into, "Traditional," work isn't something that concerns me. I'll get a, "Normal," job again. Hopefully something physical. I think that's why two million would last me forever.

    The really nice thing about growing up poor is, in the rare event I have a good bit of money, I have no idea what to do with it. There's nothing that I want. The downside is that means I get lazy and do very close to nothing until my money runs out!
    Last edited by Mission146; 04-12-2021 at 04:53 PM.

  15. #6775
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Although, screw the casinos anyway unless we get really bored. Around dusk? I'll take staring at a fire and bullshitting over stupid vulturing anytime!
    If and when I do go back to PA I certainly have no interest in going to the Casinos of any sort.
    It's been so long and too many memories for me.
    We are talking about where I grew up till about 16/17 years old.
    I just wouldn't have any time for anything related to Casinos.
    Damn You!
    Western Pennsylvania has to be one of the greatest places on Earth.
    I've been all over the States and only Oregon can really compete.
    I've also been all through New England but something special about PA.
    Probably because I grew up there.
    I'll say that we should definitely make time for a drive to Rocky Gap if we do go to Ohio Pyle. Not to go to the casino, we don't have to, but just because it is a gorgeous drive.

  16. #6776
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Meh. Glad to rent. I did home ownership once, never again.

    That said, I think I'll move to Vermont after my kids are adults. Probably Montpelier, or something. Hard to say what the traffic on the sites will look like by then, (my daughter turns ten this year, for reference) so I don't know if I'll still be writing or not. Even then, it's not like it's hard to get rooms, so I can be away for about a week every month just to keep up with the different machines and other stuff needed to be able to know what I'm talking about in my articles.

    If something happens to the writing, then that's probably it for me and gambling, if the kids are adults by then. Vermont is a beautiful state and I LOVE walking in Winter. I'll literally spend ten hours just walking around town. I'm perfectly content to live a dirt cheap existence, so going back into, "Traditional," work isn't something that concerns me. I think that's why two million would last me forever.

    The really nice thing about growing up poor is, in the rare event I have a good bit of money, I have no idea what to do with it. There's nothing that I want. The downside is that means I get lazy and do very close to nothing until my money runs out!
    My Family on my Mothers side all lived in or near Concord, NH.
    My Great Grandfather, Grandfather and Great Uncle all built their own houses by hand.
    Seriously... just the three of them, a saw and some tools.
    They wanted to turn me into an Electrician back in the mid 90s.
    Should of listened to them.

    My Grandfather was a master plumber and ended up running a company in the last 25 years of his profession.
    Great Grandfather was a master carpenter and a master at butchery.
    They got two Moose Permits in the early/mid 90s and shot one on each hunt.
    Really beat the odds getting Two Permits... my Great Grandfather hit both of the lotteries at that time.
    I wasn't on the hunts but they say my Great Grandfather sliced up those animals with perfection and lightning fast.
    I know that moose tasted really good... and we had over 100 pounds of it.
    They had to divide it amongst 4 to 8 of them.

    I'm not sure what my Great Uncle was because I didn't spend time with him.
    Forget.
    Master at some sort of Trade Profession though.
    Those guys were Real Men and did Real Jobs meant for Men.

    Anyways... the point of my story was that when I was 18 I drove a beat up old 79 Bonneville over the mountains of Vermont in a Snow Storm with bald tires lol.
    No Fear but life was different back in that era and growing up in the East or PA in the 70s/80s.
    You just learned how to do shit like that.
    You bastard... I got to go... miss that shit... nostalgia!

  17. #6777
    Originally Posted by Ivyleaguegrad View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Thanks for posting those time stamps, KJ: for me that is the final nail on that imposter's coffin, so to speak.

    When I was working I NEVER posted on gambling forums from my office; I might come home for lunch (lived close by) and post but I was professional enough to compartmentalize work from recreation.

    Plus I was busy and didn't want to fuck around with this stuff while earning my daily bread.

    Oh, and the idea that he'd be able to stay in Las Vegas months at a time and not work is just beyond hysterically funny.

    The fact that DawgShit posts as claimed establishes to me that he's a fraud: were he in fact a successful, wealthy as hell newly minted lawyer as he claims he'd be in his office working for himself and / or for his firm, not participating in his ongoing attempts to sully and essentially bring down WoV.

    Gotta give that troll points for persistence, if nothing else.
    That is why I withdrew, being suspended? Who cares. The conditions were such that it could have been manipulated. If there was a play by play for each hand then there is a record. Otherwise does anyone think wizard would spot 1k extra chip? Commission wrong? No way. Just add up the bets and do the math yourself. Dawg could have signed off on the results and boom, you have a real record. Not only that , look at what he posted today, that he Isn’t going to bite the hand that feeds him? Are you serious? I made that offer because I figured it was a trivial amount for him. Now I’m starting to think he either had someone backing him, or the like. Darkoz even asked for an exact number win or lose and dawg swatted at him. If you notice he keeps repeating that the wizard will record how he sees fit. Hogwash. If anyone cares enough to go on truth passage you will see how dawg explains how he wins with patterns in his own words. If that’s the case, which is isn’t , then just post the record with the pattern. Just like the casino does on the virtual scoreboard. Not only to they give you pen and paper. They list the patterns in 3-5 ways or more depending on the type of board.

    This is why I kept pushing for an exact bet list. The pm I sent meant nothing . I said I was willing to post to mimic him just to show it doesn’t work.
    LMAO Truepassage! Say hi to MLeus will ya.

  18. #6778
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Thanks for taking the time to respond tableplay.
    No problem sir - very interesting topic. So the way I would run it would be similar to the way a lot of guys run Blackjack: You have a big player come in to make the bets - the signaler/counter is flat betting. Analogously, the dice controller minimum bets against the dice controlled outcome (so minimum bet the Don't if you can and do make less sevens than expected and have the BP bet the pass line and/or place bet all the points - keeping them ON/working throughout the dice-controlled session).

  19. #6779
    You bastard Mission146.
    I watch this video from time to time.
    Wish the guy would make volume 2 or more of them.
    I grew up in this town till the end of 6th grade.
    You can see how poor I grew up as we lived in the Youngwood Hotel till the start of the 3rd grade.
    Shown at 28 seconds of the video and still standing from what I understand.
    Guess they got rid off all those cockroaches lol.
    At 32 seconds in I used to go to that church for a few years till they had a Halloween Party in the lower level.
    They couldn't convince me at 7/8 years old that dressing up like the Devil was a good thing or what God wanted in his house.
    They literally tried to tell me that its ok to dress up like Demons or the Devil to scare the Devil???
    Fuck that Noise!

    I don't hide the fact that I came from nothing and am no good.
    Boring Video for most of you but not for me.
    I know all those places well.
    My baseball team used to get ice cream after games at the Dairy Queen.
    I remember when it first re-opened.
    etc etc.
    Good Times.
    Park and Pool was the spot in the Summer for us rugrats.

    Last edited by monet; 04-12-2021 at 05:41 PM.

  20. #6780
    Originally Posted by Ivyleaguegrad View Post
    The pm I sent meant nothing .
    In your second post on this forum (above) you claimed the PM meant nothing.

    In your first post here, you whined (again) about me not forwarding it for you.

    You first started moaning about about it over on WOV...because it meant nothing.

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