You obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.
When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).
The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.
The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.
I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
Lol, I actually thought you were serious about Trump being an expert on virology.
Glad to see that's just humor.
I don't believe the lockdown Carnage was done to get rid of Trump.
I live in NYC and when it was climbing exponentially here many places shutdown on their own. Had nothing to with politics.
Of course, there are always some people on both sides of the aisle which will do some politicking moves.
But neither Trump nor liberals created or wanted this virus issue.
Trump still has a chance to pull a victory here. Find a treatment before the election and significantly before. By late summer end I would say.
He might be in luck as I am following a drug that is really close. (I invested in it on the stock market for full disclosure). I believe in it that much.
Even if it helps Trump get re-elected that's fine. I want the country back on track without fear of Coronavirus
Even Broke Billy is pointing out that the majority of posters from just a few years ago are gone at WoV. He also stated he felt the Wizard appears to not even want to be there anyone.
Tough times for the “Man of Integrity”. Is it any wonder he let KJ back after saying he was Dead to Him?
I'm curious why he asked about ZG and Zenzone.
The CV count is notoriously corrupt. And you completely ignore the millions of deaths of children worldwide the causation of which is the extreme poverty they are subjected to because of the economic shutdown. STOOOOOOOOPPIIIDDDDD!!!!
Oh, and FUCK YOUR BLOG. It's nothing but socialist bullshit.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
You are stating on the one hand that we should allow the data to come in order to make conclusions but then also stating in the same post that you already know that the Covid-19 deaths are an undercount and that "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts (and I assume you mean that they will be much smaller than the virus death counts although you don't state this explicitly). Since you already know what will happen, I don't see why we need to wait for the data to come in.
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Since I know families that have kids who depend on the free lunch programs at school I can tell you the ones Inhave spoken too switched to either home meal delivery or became eligible for a temporary food stamp status.
And yes, lol, under a republican president. But I am not for letting kids starve so I agree with that.
Let's face it, hardly anyone is starving in America. We have too many umbrellas in our system. Posters on here just like to imagine fake arguments because it's the only way they can win
If you have seen the overall U.S. mortality data through the first week in May, which I did not post (but you should be able to find), the U.S. is running way, way over the usual mortality figures. So I'm comfortable (for me) saying that it's a blatant undercount of COVID deaths. For somebody arguing the other side, not sure a huge bulge in U.S. deaths through the first week in May would be absolutely lock convincing, so just wait until it's all sorted out in two years.
Look, if Fauci and every other leading epidemiologist has said it's an undercount of deaths, and international studies show consistent undercounts, why would any civilian decide it's an overcount?
I guess all the protesting and looting made all those Chink Virus numbers go down.
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