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  1. #201
    Originally Posted by IamBusiness View Post
    I'm a new member who lives and owns a successful current 68-employee business in Las Vegas, and before the pontificating, accusations, and illogical claims begin I'll clue you in on something: I have followed Rob Singer's play strategy (dollars through $25 because I can afford it) since his early days of the column he wrote in our weekly Gaming Today casino newspaper. I have won enough in the past 15 years to buy several homes here, and the only bad thing I can say about learning from his us that my federal taxes have gone up.

    I'm fully aware that most of you will instantly cry foul, say I'm Singer because you won't be able to sleep overnight believing I'm not, you'll make up that he's emailing me what to say, or you'll all just cry yourselves to sleep for the next month or two because he does have at least one friend in Vegas. Yes, we are friends. He passed through here in his RV on his way back from his summer home in the Dakotas, and believe me, that rig cost more than any four houses on my street, and they aren't little. I say this because he told me he got banned from here a while back, and the forum is always saying how there's very few of his followers or supporters who go to bat for him. Well why should they? Successful people have no burning need to be insulted or spend the better part of their lives on these things like member LarryS does here. Truth be told, I've never been involved in these things and won't argue with anyone because I'll let you guys play pretend with each other.

    Singer told me a story of what it's like to be honest here. He had me read how you all treated Girl Friday, who because she made more sense than the usual trolls I read about, she was immediately accused of being Singer just because she lives in Arizona! Does he really have that much power over mgmt. here, where an entire state gets shut down for membership because there's such a fear of one man?

    No, I'm not here soliciting business like I saw Rob's friend Alan exposed of some sportsbettor here. No I don't know a thing about the wov other than what Rob told me about him, which wasn't very impressive. And I have no interest in getting involved in kewlj s sissy-dramas (yes he filled me in on him). What I'm doing is letting the bashers know they really aren't fooling any readers who visit thus site but do not post. I also happen to agree with girl that no ap worth his salt would ever be a regular poster on one of these things unless they were getting paid. I'm amazed that the same small group of people can find the time to babble so much about mostly nothing. I mean, does anybody really care about a poster nobody knows who says he doesn't close down bars anymore? Now how freaking important is that in your daily lives?

    By the way, I know Bob Dancer also, and while I get his "always play vp with an edge" shtick, that system never got me anywhere.

    I'll close out for now. I'm sure all the Sherlocks will pop on to offer their psycho-analyses of why I posted today or how this little clue here points to it being Singer or he used a key word like "offer" like Singer does all the time or whatever. Go ahead, make your boring day last a little longer. I only came here to debunk your untrue theories about no one supports Singer. That's been accomplished.

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    I can only reply that if I'm the "sportsbettor [sic]" soliciting business, I'll be happy to write you a check if you can find one single post among 5000 where I'm "soliciting business."

    Best of luck.

  2. #202
    Paaattthhetic!

    Redietz and others. As RS said months ago....let's not even bother feeding the trolls.

  3. #203
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Paaattthhetic!

    Redietz and others. As RS said months ago....let's not even bother feeding the trolls.
    I just have to mention this. One of my fondest memories of Rob Singer was two years ago right before the Super Bowl. I had just won the Heritage Sports Race to the Super Bowl and its 25K in SB wagers, but I hadn't mentioned it on this site. I knew Rob would go on one of his nose-in-the-air rants if I said something like "I'm going to bet $25 or $35 on Super Bowl props. Anyone have any ideas?" I purposefully left out the K after the 25 and 35.

    And sure enough, horse's ass Rob was apoplectic about what a low rolling pathetic faker I was. Then I informed him I had left out the K. He didn't quite know what to do with that.

    I think that started the whole gig where he claimed I wasn't me. Anyway, it was classic predictable Rob Argentino. Somebody that concerned with status is usually faking their own.

  4. #204
    Good for you iambussiness. It's a great thing to come out on the extreme good side of variance. One serious question and please be honest in your response. When Rob was training you, who's players card was inserted in the machine?

  5. #205
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Paaattthhetic!

    Redietz and others. As RS said months ago....let's not even bother feeding the trolls.
    Not at all sure what you guys would talk about other than "yourselves" and the "trolls".

    Isn't the reason that this forum never took off, the constant talk about comps? But what do comps have to do with yourselves and trolls? I don't know, but the two now seem related.
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  6. #206
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    Isn't the reason that this forum never took off the constant talk about comps? But what do comps have to do with yourselves and trolls? I don't know, but the two now seem related.
    I don't know anything about "constant talk about comps". 95% of my blackjack play is unrated, so comps are not part of my game. We get just enough comps from a limited amount of machine play to score free meals. A bonus, but very minor part of my earnings.

    I suspect the reason this forum didn't take off was the Singer/Mendelson alliance against the mathematics of gambling and the AP's that use it to make money. And now that the site is experiencing some growth they are still fighting that fight. Trying to dig in deeper, even as both no longer participate, except for this kind of third grade, sockpuppetry, make believe "support".

    I am sure the IamBusiness post originated from Las Vegas, just as said. Likely Dan has already checked that. But anyone with even a shred of a brain, knows this is either Singer or Alan, or some combination of both. If I had to guess I would say Alan, probably posting what he and Singer schemed up privately. Alan lives in Las Vegas, at least part-time, with this girlfriend, so either he or she, would have some friend or neighbor that they can post from with a 'fresh' IP address. Either that or it is originating from public wifi IP address.

    BUT, I am not supposed to call Alan a 'shyster', so I won't. But it is really insulting that these two half wits, think they are so smart they are pulling something, when everyone with an ounce of brain and objectivity, knows exactly what is going on.

  7. #207
    Originally Posted by IamBusiness View Post
    I'm a new member who lives and owns a successful current 68-employee business in Las Vegas, and before the pontificating, accusations, and illogical claims begin I'll clue you in on something: I have followed Rob Singer's play strategy (dollars through $25 because I can afford it) since his early days of the column he wrote in our weekly Gaming Today casino newspaper. I have won enough in the past 15 years to buy several homes here, and the only bad thing I can say about learning from his us that my federal taxes have gone up.

    I'm fully aware that most of you will instantly cry foul, say I'm Singer because you won't be able to sleep overnight believing I'm not, you'll make up that he's emailing me what to say, or you'll all just cry yourselves to sleep for the next month or two because he does have at least one friend in Vegas. Yes, we are friends. He passed through here in his RV on his way back from his summer home in the Dakotas, and believe me, that rig cost more than any four houses on my street, and they aren't little. I say this because he told me he got banned from here a while back, and the forum is always saying how there's very few of his followers or supporters who go to bat for him. Well why should they? Successful people have no burning need to be insulted or spend the better part of their lives on these things like member LarryS does here. Truth be told, I've never been involved in these things and won't argue with anyone because I'll let you guys play pretend with each other.

    Singer told me a story of what it's like to be honest here. He had me read how you all treated Girl Friday, who because she made more sense than the usual trolls I read about, she was immediately accused of being Singer just because she lives in Arizona! Does he really have that much power over mgmt. here, where an entire state gets shut down for membership because there's such a fear of one man?

    No, I'm not here soliciting business like I saw Rob's friend Alan exposed of some sportsbettor here. No I don't know a thing about the wov other than what Rob told me about him, which wasn't very impressive. And I have no interest in getting involved in kewlj s sissy-dramas (yes he filled me in on him). What I'm doing is letting the bashers know they really aren't fooling any readers who visit thus site but do not post. I also happen to agree with girl that no ap worth his salt would ever be a regular poster on one of these things unless they were getting paid. I'm amazed that the same small group of people can find the time to babble so much about mostly nothing. I mean, does anybody really care about a poster nobody knows who says he doesn't close down bars anymore? Now how freaking important is that in your daily lives?

    By the way, I know Bob Dancer also, and while I get his "always play vp with an edge" shtick, that system never got me anywhere.

    I'll close out for now. I'm sure all the Sherlocks will pop on to offer their psycho-analyses of why I posted today or how this little clue here points to it being Singer or he used a key word like "offer" like Singer does all the time or whatever. Go ahead, make your boring day last a little longer. I only came here to debunk your untrue theories about no one supports Singer. That's been accomplished.

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    Rob, didn't you say you sold the RV when you moved into your daughter's house in Phoenix?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #208
    Originally Posted by IamBusiness View Post
    I'm a new member who lives and owns a successful current 68-employee business in Las Vegas, and before the pontificating, accusations, and illogical claims begin I'll clue you in on something: I have followed Rob Singer's play strategy (dollars through $25 because I can afford it) since his early days of the column he wrote in our weekly Gaming Today casino newspaper. I have won enough in the past 15 years to buy several homes here, and the only bad thing I can say about learning from his us that my federal taxes have gone up.

    I'm fully aware that most of you will instantly cry foul, say I'm Singer because you won't be able to sleep overnight believing I'm not, you'll make up that he's emailing me what to say, or you'll all just cry yourselves to sleep for the next month or two because he does have at least one friend in Vegas. Yes, we are friends. He passed through here in his RV on his way back from his summer home in the Dakotas, and believe me, that rig cost more than any four houses on my street, and they aren't little. I say this because he told me he got banned from here a while back, and the forum is always saying how there's very few of his followers or supporters who go to bat for him. Well why should they? Successful people have no burning need to be insulted or spend the better part of their lives on these things like member LarryS does here. Truth be told, I've never been involved in these things and won't argue with anyone because I'll let you guys play pretend with each other.

    Singer told me a story of what it's like to be honest here. He had me read how you all treated Girl Friday, who because she made more sense than the usual trolls I read about, she was immediately accused of being Singer just because she lives in Arizona! Does he really have that much power over mgmt. here, where an entire state gets shut down for membership because there's such a fear of one man?

    No, I'm not here soliciting business like I saw Rob's friend Alan exposed of some sportsbettor here. No I don't know a thing about the wov other than what Rob told me about him, which wasn't very impressive. And I have no interest in getting involved in kewlj s sissy-dramas (yes he filled me in on him). What I'm doing is letting the bashers know they really aren't fooling any readers who visit thus site but do not post. I also happen to agree with girl that no ap worth his salt would ever be a regular poster on one of these things unless they were getting paid. I'm amazed that the same small group of people can find the time to babble so much about mostly nothing. I mean, does anybody really care about a poster nobody knows who says he doesn't close down bars anymore? Now how freaking important is that in your daily lives?

    By the way, I know Bob Dancer also, and while I get his "always play vp with an edge" shtick, that system never got me anywhere.

    I'll close out for now. I'm sure all the Sherlocks will pop on to offer their psycho-analyses of why I posted today or how this little clue here points to it being Singer or he used a key word like "offer" like Singer does all the time or whatever. Go ahead, make your boring day last a little longer. I only came here to debunk your untrue theories about no one supports Singer. That's been accomplished.

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    do please tell us then, since you have been reading the goings on here for a while to be able to pull out info from weeks ago....why you didnt post back then....and defend the people you thought needed defending. I mean now its sort of useless dont you think. Alan and singer are gone. He "had you read" how girlfriday was treated. Why? Why was it important for him to contact a third party to read posts and responses to a poster on a site he was no longer a part of? Of what importance would that be to him, and what a waste of time it must have been for you.

    I have been banned from wov. And it never occurred to me to contact my friends and have rehash the issues and point out injustices on wov.Especially friends that dont participate on wov. We have better things to do and talk about.And they have better things to do with their free time.

    And to what end would their involvement do any good. Zero. Its just what a narcissist would want to do. Get "friends" involved with something trivial in the grand scheme of things that centers around the narcissist.

    Ok so girlfriday got a bad deal in your mind and in singers mind. What now. Was it worth registering and writing a lengthy post about something you obviously before this had no interest in. You dont even know girlfriday. Yet in order to vouch for her you would have had to read all her posts and all the posts that responded to her. Quite a lengthy process.

    And you saw "robs friend alan" expose someone who was soliciting. Did he "have you read that"...again thats alot of work...for no real value.

    It seems singer is having you read things here and you do so. It seems like alot of work for you to do all this for something that until now you were not interested in. Until now you never read this board and never saw anything that made you personally want to register and respond to. But now we have someone who is here because "Rob had me......" Are you on Robs payroll????
    "he had me"......wtf.

  9. #209
    LarryS, if you're wondering about the timing, it's the week before the Super Bowl. Everything is cheap this week until Thursday. Some freebie rooms and promo tournaments probably figured into the timing of this post. So someone took advantage to match up with an LV IP.

    LOL -- not the timing of a high roller. But, as I said above, people this sensitive to status are probably faking theirs.

    I'm sure if IamBusiness really wanted to do right by Rob, he'd sign his real name and go to bat with actual facts that could be verified by third parties. Instead, we have the old anecdotal storyline. The only number in the post is that he has 68 employees. That is very Rob-esque in that it's a show of status, not math and not evidence of anything. Most people trying to make a case for a system would mention math at some point. But -- what do you know? No mention of math...or probability...or the "how" of bending the rules of probability. Just anecdotal blather with absolutely no numbers. Isn't that strange? Strange but yet -- so consistent. And the only number is a number assigning a status to someone ("68 employees"). Strange but yet -- so consistent.

    Man, I need to open a sockpuppet coaching school. Then I would indeed solicit business, because Rob and his cohorts need some serious coaching.

    By the way, in case anyone is wondering, I offered to send my bio package and third party public evaluations to Rob Singer to verify who I am, but he didn't want them. Turned me down. Now why would someone interested in truth, justice, and the American way do that? He could rip them all to shreds and expose me with his keen objective eye and sensitivity to bullshit.

    Or not.
    Last edited by redietz; 01-31-2018 at 10:19 AM.

  10. #210
    supposedly this dude is just reading the posts the singer "had him read". If he was lurking and reading posts all along, then he would have ready the back and forth with girlfriday without having singer prod him to read them.
    However the girlfriday posts are not existing in a vacuum . The poster wuld have to read hundreds of other posts in order to consider it in true context. But the poster is comfortable being told to read cherry picked posts and then come here to talk and critique actions of others. Oh yeah, the other possibilityis that you are someone who has been here all along, and knows all the ins and outs of what has gone one, and can make comments on things only a long term poster would know.

    Redietz is right the first post has way too much info that a new real poster would want to give. Like do we really need to know you have exactly 68 employees. Or the reason you know about past posts is that singer "had you read " them. Trying to answer questions before they were asked.

    I'll close out for now. I'm sure all the Sherlocks will pop on to offer their psycho-analyses of why I posted today

    sounds like a man that has alot of experience on this board. Has seen alot of questioning. Not the type of comment an innocent newbie poster would post at first. Its rather combative for a newbie. Sort of like he has fought this battle before.
    Usually a new poster comes in quietly with hat in hand and introduces himself as far as gambling goes. Their fave games, the places they play. blah blah blah.

    No one comes here and gives us their status at work right off the bat. No one gives a shit unless its pertinent to the topic at hand. What does employing 68 people have to do with this thread. Its not a thread about unemployment or the economy. But he needed to have our minds realize that he isnt singer, and he isnt a banker lady, he isnt a dude that sw 18 yos in a row........nope he is just a good citizen who takes orders from singer to read various posts.

  11. #211
    IamBusiness... since you have a thriving business here in the LV area and only enhance your salary by using the Singer System... do you think you could help me with a job? Any chance for swing or grave? Perhaps after working for awhile we could go out and around town with you showing me how your crushing it in Casinos? I sorta do the Dancer thing with finding small edges in the Casino so I don't think I could teach you how to make money gambling but I am willing to learn if your willing to teach?

  12. #212
    Monet has a fair point. I'll be in LV next week. I'm sure I can carve out some time to meet IAmBusiness and verify that he's been ramblin' and gamblin' the Singer way.

    I have to say -- I love the fact I am now a staple of the anecdotal sockpuppetry. Bob Dancer, me, no math, psychoanalysis -- but where are arcimede$ and Jean Scott? Maybe they'll show up in the next installment.

  13. #213
    The only "business" that IamBusiness is involved in is funny business.

    His post was very funny.

    Not "ha-ha" funny; more like "Eww, this meat smells funny."
    What, Me Worry?

  14. #214
    We don't have to wait until next week. I will make time to meet with IamBusiness TODAY. He can show me his business and I will meet some of the 68 employees and verify that he is a real person and NOT a sockpuppet.

    While my own position is that no one has to prove anything on this or any internet forum, Singer is the godfather of the "prove it" nation. Being that IamBusiness is such a fan of Singer I am sure he will be happy to do so. And you know, I am not asking for any banking statements or tax documents. Just show me this 68 employee business and introduce me to a few. I mean I am sure it isn't some top secret government thing, so the privacy concerns will be minimal. This way we can not waste any more of anyone's time than necessary, IamBusiness included.

    I am heading out shortly, but I will check in periodically and am willing to drop what I am doing in the name of expediting this situation. So IamBusiness, send me a PM or post publicly and I am happy to accomodate you TODAY. Let's NOT drag this out.

  15. #215
    If singer "had him read the rest of this thread" I am sure he would meet you. But singer is a busy man, and he may not be in the position this very miute to instruct" business" to read the remaining posts after his initial one.

  16. #216
    Just checking in. Let`s see... Nope nothing from IamBusiness. Hum?

  17. #217
    He's on a date with girlfriday. Said he'd check in after he gives her the business.

  18. #218
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    supposedly this dude is just reading the posts the singer "had him read". If he was lurking and reading posts all along, then he would have ready the back and forth with girlfriday without having singer prod him to read them.
    However the girlfriday posts are not existing in a vacuum . The poster wuld have to read hundreds of other posts in order to consider it in true context. But the poster is comfortable being told to read cherry picked posts and then come here to talk and critique actions of others. Oh yeah, the other possibilityis that you are someone who has been here all along, and knows all the ins and outs of what has gone one, and can make comments on things only a long term poster would know.

    Redietz is right the first post has way too much info that a new real poster would want to give. Like do we really need to know you have exactly 68 employees. Or the reason you know about past posts is that singer "had you read " them. Trying to answer questions before they were asked.

    I'll close out for now. I'm sure all the Sherlocks will pop on to offer their psycho-analyses of why I posted today

    sounds like a man that has alot of experience on this board. Has seen alot of questioning. Not the type of comment an innocent newbie poster would post at first. Its rather combative for a newbie. Sort of like he has fought this battle before.
    Usually a new poster comes in quietly with hat in hand and introduces himself as far as gambling goes. Their fave games, the places they play. blah blah blah.

    No one comes here and gives us their status at work right off the bat. No one gives a shit unless its pertinent to the topic at hand. What does employing 68 people have to do with this thread. Its not a thread about unemployment or the economy. But he needed to have our minds realize that he isnt singer, and he isnt a banker lady, he isnt a dude that sw 18 yos in a row........nope he is just a good citizen who takes orders from singer to read various posts.
    Singer was always bragging about what he's got. It looks like Mr. Business has that same propensity.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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