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  1. #2501
    Poker "Pros" do this all the time. Many are freerolled and only keep a portion of the "earnings."

  2. #2502
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    although KJ is writing book....."Please fuck me in the ass and tell me you are taking my temperature"
    Change your tampax, larry. You'll feel better.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #2503
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Poker "Pros" do this all the time. Many are freerolled and only keep a portion of the "earnings."
    Phil Hellmuth sells shares of his poker tournament buy-ins. He gets 180% which means his buy-ins are mostly covered by his investors. His track record is about 300% ROI so you can make up your own mind as to whether it's a good investment or not. He sells the shares online so anyone has a shot to buy a piece of him. Hellmuth is known for showing up an hour or two late for tournaments so some of his chips get blinded off and some of his investors don't like it.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 06-09-2018 at 09:06 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #2504
    I don't see Kneeland playing the linked banks of Flush Attacks on someone else's money. That would be bat shit crazy stupid. All you needed was a couple hundred. Some AP's put their first five-figure bankroll's together playing that game. It was the second play I learned after the Piggy Bankin.' It was a big money maker with no downside to it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #2505
    Frank started out working for someone else, Tom, was a paid employee, and graduated up to running the team. THAT WAS HIS JOB, SINGER, YOU IGNORANT SLUT. He managed a video poker progressive team. And he made a lot of money for Tom Robertson. Robertson is a self-made multi-millionaire from gambling but keeps a low profile. He's never minded goofball idiots like Singer because they spread so much false information about advantage gambling--and that has always worked to Tom's advantage.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  6. #2506
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    The fact that Frankie said there's was no more good +EV plays when he left is absolutely absurd and complete total BS
    This same phenomenon occurs in the blackjack community. I first noticed it on BJ21, which was made up of older members, who would sometimes say things like "you can't beat blackjack anymore", or "card counting no longer works". These statements are 100% untrue. It is just older players, who had access to better games and opportunities stating their frustration with current conditions. In essence they are saying they would not be willing to work harder, work smarter and find ways, and approaches to beat the current games and conditions.

    Hell, I would have loved to have been born earlier (not really) and been able to play the better conditions of yesteryear. I don't blame older players for being frustrated with today's condition, nor voicing their frustrations. That's all it is. And that sounds exactly like what Frank was saying.


    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I played next to and ccompeted against Frankie, his Mom (FYI She was a very intelligent colorful person) and their team member's many times on various promotions, progressives and machine's.
    Wait, bringing his mother, or other family members into the team? Unheard of! On this site he would be ridiculed. But the fact is, that team play, regardless of whether it is machine play, or blackjack or whatever.....a very key component is TRUST. Lack of trust is actually the single thing that has brought many successful teams down. It is human nature to NOT trust. So teaming with close family members and very close friends, who you already trust completely, is not only common, but beneficial. It is just another case of people here criticizing and attacking what they have no clue about.

  7. #2507
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Frank started out working for someone else, Tom, was a paid employee, and graduated up to running the team. THAT WAS HIS JOB, SINGER, YOU IGNORANT SLUT.
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    He managed a video poker progressive team. And he made a lot of money for Tom Robertson. Robertson is a self-made multi-millionaire from gambling but keeps a low profile. He's never minded goofball idiots like Singer because they spread so much false information about advantage gambling--and that has always worked to Tom's advantage.
    LOL

  8. #2508
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I don't see Kneeland playing the linked banks of Flush Attacks on someone else's money. That would be bat shit crazy stupid. All you needed was a couple hundred. Some AP's put their first five-figure bankroll's together playing that game. It was the second play I learned after the Piggy Bankin.' It was a big money maker with no downside to it.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall Circus-Circus had a group of Flush Attacks. If I was early to the Monday Night game drawings (in the back, on the second floor), I'd kill time watching the circus acts and waiting for Flush Attacks to pop.

  9. #2509
    Kneeland once asked me to let him in on a play. It was a 5-spot video keno play with a 3% advantage. You could run about 5k an hour in action so the play was worth about $150 an hour but it was only available for six hours one day a week when the solid five paid double. I mentioned the play to him in passing and for some reason Frank thought the play might be in northern Nevada. He asked me to let him in on it. The play was actually in eastern Montana which was to far for him to travel for just six hours a week.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #2510
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I don't see Kneeland playing the linked banks of Flush Attacks on someone else's money. That would be bat shit crazy stupid. All you needed was a couple hundred. Some AP's put their first five-figure bankroll's together playing that game. It was the second play I learned after the Piggy Bankin.' It was a big money maker with no downside to it.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall Circus-Circus had a group of Flush Attacks. If I was early to the Monday Night game drawings (in the back, on the second floor), I'd kill time watching the circus acts and waiting for Flush Attacks to pop.
    Yes, they had Flush Attacks. They wound up unlinking them. There was money to be made sweeping through them. They were there for years.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #2511
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I don't see Kneeland playing the linked banks of Flush Attacks on someone else's money. That would be bat shit crazy stupid. All you needed was a couple hundred. Some AP's put their first five-figure bankroll's together playing that game. It was the second play I learned after the Piggy Bankin.' It was a big money maker with no downside to it.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall Circus-Circus had a group of Flush Attacks. If I was early to the Monday Night game drawings (in the back, on the second floor), I'd kill time watching the circus acts and waiting for Flush Attacks to pop.
    Yes, they had Flush Attacks. They wound up unlinking them. There was money to be made sweeping through them. They were there for years.
    I'm kinda Busy at the moment. I would like to say I Dont think CC ever unlinked on there Flush Attack. They just took them out.

    Other places did of course, and it was a great gig. It was way more variance than the linked of course since you didn't have a 133 % edge. Not good for low banked AP's.

    They actually had 3 separate banks at one time. (Yes, one was near the upper level sports book)

    And yes, I employed my friend who was not 21 at the time (i was only a year or two older than him at the time) and paid him $5 an hour plus bonuses he probably averaged $10 an hour. Was working for me and we used walkie talkies as communication when a bonus was on or there was heavy action on a particular bank.

    CC was worth about $65 an hour per Person defending On the compitiosion.

  12. #2512
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall Circus-Circus had a group of Flush Attacks. If I was early to the Monday Night game drawings (in the back, on the second floor), I'd kill time watching the circus acts and waiting for Flush Attacks to pop.
    Yes, they had Flush Attacks. They wound up unlinking them. There was money to be made sweeping through them. They were there for years.
    I'm kinda Busy at the moment. I would like to say I Dont think CC ever unlinked on there Flush Attack. They just took them out.

    Other places did of course, and it was a great gig. It was way more variance than the linked of course since you didn't have a 133 % edge. Not good for low banked AP's.

    They actually had 3 separate banks at one time. (Yes, one was near the upper level sports book)

    And yes, I employed my friend who was not 21 at the time (i was only a year or two older than him at the time) and paid him $5 an hour plus bonuses he probably averaged $10 an hour. Was working for me and we used walkie talkies as communication when a bonus was on or there was heavy action on a particular bank.

    CC was worth about $65 an hour per Person defending On the compitiosion.
    My mistake. I thought the bank was unlinked.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #2513
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Wait, bringing his mother, or other family members into the team? Unheard of! On this site he would be ridiculed. But the fact is, that team play, regardless of whether it is machine play, or blackjack or whatever.....a very key component is TRUST. Lack of trust is actually the single thing that has brought many successful teams down. It is human nature to NOT trust. So teaming with close family members and very close friends, who you already trust completely, is not only common, but beneficial. It is just another case of people here criticizing and attacking what they have no clue about.
    IIRC. It was actully his mother who was first working for the teams and she got him into it.

    Its also been rumored that GWAE was originally all Fankies idea and he brought Bob in, but Bob eventually ousted him somehow and took over. I have no personal knowledge regarding the real dynamics of the situation. I don't really care what the deal is, I just found it interesting that it's been repeated to me a number of times by various people.

  14. #2514
    I guess we need a thread that talks about Dan Druff deleting MendleBreads letter to him. I think the best part of my post was that most people don't realize that about 45% of the Holocaust Victims were NON JEWS. Of course you won't hear LarryS tell you these truths or how many of them were Polish Catholics. You don't see the Polish or the Catholics all up in arms like the Jews. As a matter of fact the world forgave Germany long ago and lets them compete in the Olympics winning tons of medals as we cheer for those Jerrys. Plenty of people around the world buying VW's or Knives or many other German produced items as well as Japanese products. Nobody taking a stance and not buying those Sony whatevers. Take a look into Germany and you will see that we along with the rest of the world let them rebuild and now have the 5th largest Army in the World.

    Nobody Crying about 5 or 6 million Soviet Slavs dying in the Holocaust.

    Heck before the Holocaust you had the Holodomor which wiped out about 3 to 7 million Ukrainians. However the Jews do nothing but cry about their hardship with the Germans. That tribe had it rough long before the Germans with many countries wiping them out and occupying their land. Just to mention a few... Egypt, The British, England with the Knight Templars, Muslims... the list goes on and on. The British had control of Palestine for about 30 years from 1917 until 1948. All you hear from people like LarryS is about the Ovens and his family but he doesn't give you a real history lesson and show you how twisted it all really is and only American Jews like him who aren't really Jewish do the crying on anonymous message boards like this. Just look at some of the statistics from the Holocaust and see how many Nations actually got butchered. The Jews were not the only people who were persecuted by the Nazis. If you were mentally ill or disabled the Nazis would put you to death as well.

    Most people do not even realize that many German Jews fought for Germany in WWI and would not leave the country even when they had the chance or means. They felt that Germany was their country too and they weren't leaving their Homeland.

    Jews 5-6 million
    Poles 1.8–3 million
    Soviet Slavs 6 million
    Soviet POWs 2.8–3.3 million
    Serbs 300,000–600,000
    Disabled 270,000
    Romani 130,000–500,000
    Freemasons 80,000–200,000
    Slovenes 20,000–25,000
    Homosexuals 5,000–15,000
    Jehovah's Witnesses 1,250–5,000
    Spanish Republicans 7,000

    Study the Genocides of the World and you might actually realize that it is nothing new. It isn't even the freshest. Cambodia had millions Genocide long after the Germans had their day.

    Anyways... whatever... LarryS is a piece of shit troll anyway like most here on this forum... You all can Fuck Off and Die

  15. #2515
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Wait, bringing his mother, or other family members into the team? Unheard of! On this site he would be ridiculed. But the fact is, that team play, regardless of whether it is machine play, or blackjack or whatever.....a very key component is TRUST. Lack of trust is actually the single thing that has brought many successful teams down. It is human nature to NOT trust. So teaming with close family members and very close friends, who you already trust completely, is not only common, but beneficial. It is just another case of people here criticizing and attacking what they have no clue about.
    IIRC. It was actully his mother who was first working for the teams and she got him into it.

    Its also been rumored that GWAE was originally all Fankies idea and he brought Bob in, but Bob eventually ousted him somehow and took over. I have no personal knowledge regarding the real dynamics of the situation. I don't really care what the deal is, I just found it interesting that it's been repeated to me a number of times by various people.
    He brought Dancer in and Bob just kind of took over. He wanted Frank out because he was a one dimensional gambler. Frank complained to me in a phone call about being ousted.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #2516
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Wait, bringing his mother, or other family members into the team? Unheard of! On this site he would be ridiculed. But the fact is, that team play, regardless of whether it is machine play, or blackjack or whatever.....a very key component is TRUST. Lack of trust is actually the single thing that has brought many successful teams down. It is human nature to NOT trust. So teaming with close family members and very close friends, who you already trust completely, is not only common, but beneficial. It is just another case of people here criticizing and attacking what they have no clue about.
    IIRC. It was actully his mother who was first working for the teams and she got him into it.

    Its also been rumored that GWAE was originally all Fankies idea and he brought Bob in, but Bob eventually ousted him somehow and took over. I have no personal knowledge regarding the real dynamics of the situation. I don't really care what the deal is, I just found it interesting that it's been repeated to me a number of times by various people.
    He brought Dancer in and Bob just kind of took over. He wanted Frank out because he was a one dimensional gambler. Frank complained to me in a phone call about being ousted.
    That's interesting. I've always maintained that the reason 1 in 100,000 gamblers win instead of 1 in 1000 is because those 1 in 1000 decide they need to be more than one dimensional.

    If you're going to have guests most shows, I don't see the issue with a one-dimensional gambler being a host. I'd rather have guest obstetricians telling me about child birth than having a general practitioner juggling multiple roles and faking it.

  17. #2517
    The idiots like LarryS talk about the Jews and the Ovens but they don't even get into how they are profiting from their ancestors/family wiping out an American Indian Population. It appears it is ok to wipe out one race but not another in his viewpoint. For some light reading I suggest you look into the American Indian Genocide where you will find anywhere from 50 million to 100 million people wiped out. That is a far cry from 11 million at the Holocaust and at most 6 million Jews because they don't like to tell you about all the other Races that suffered the same struggle with the Nazis at the Holocaust. Fucking Me Generation... Go make some Mendlebread and Eat, Drink and be Merry.

  18. #2518
    WoV Thread "What Did You Eat Today"... where the fuck is Once Dear closing this thread?? You can be sure that OD and BBB would of closed this thread down if Nathan/Tasha started it. Biased Motherfuckers. AW complained but barely... he can't go against the Greens.

  19. #2519
    S. Of course you won't hear LarryS tell you these truths or how many of them were Polish Catholics. You don't see the Polish or the Catholics all the real monet

    that is answered quite easily. Unlike you, I have not elevaed myself on this board as a history teacher. Yes aty one point you were james bond, outdoing the IRS, out doing the casinos, being a "bad guy". And now you return as a historian here to educate us in between vulgarities like "go fuck yourself".

    So if the issue was why Alan was offended. I gave my own personal experience in the matter as to why its not a joking matter. I was responding as to why it would be offensive to some. Just as why a dead baby joke would be offensive to others.

    So fine use this forum as a way to teach us history for those willing to wade through that post. Certainly not for me, once i got past the first 40 words. But I am sure the lecture will be appreciated by others.

    as you lecture us on Nazi atrocities and show us the ability to google search a topic .......dont forget to throw in that you love to throw 20 dollar bills on the street at the homeless, and that you secretly dodge the IRS.

    you are indeed james bond... after alll maybe james bond also had a bleeding tumor in his colon.....so you can still be that hero.

    please regale us on history, and the consistency of your stool some more. Both fascinating

    If someone tells a dead baby joke, and a member takes exception to it because of person experience......the member is not obligated to also acknowledge that millions of dead babies have dies over the years in parts of afric sue to starvation and disease. Its ok for him to talk about his personal experience without being inclusive of the worlds dead babies.

  20. #2520
    Once Dear, Babs banned the word "moron" from the Trump thread when Boz used the word not in a disparaging way. It's always a conservative involved when you guys take action. Romes on page 337 and Billryan on page 338 are continuing to use the word. That's how much respect they have for Babs. She's their lackey. If the word was banned then Romes and Ryan are breaking the rules. Fat chance they will be suspended for it though. Does a conservative have to use the word again before you guys take action?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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