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  1. #3801
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    I think I will take this opportunity to ask; Where's Norm? Where is QFIT? Oh that's right he never intended to participate and contribute at WoV. Just used Mike to settle a personal feud.

    KJ: I looked it up - Qfit first posted on WOV in February of 2010 - that's almost 2009 - way, way, before your feud with him began

    so, the point you're trying to make cannot be correct

    he didn't post at all between April 2010 and November of 2015

    your feud was several years ago. it really seems like you're obsessed with it. I'm not a guy who generally gives people advice but nonetheless you need to move on.

    carrying this thing so close to your heart for so long can't be a healthy thing


    I agree with you, Half Smoke, but I think I get what fires KewlJ up. The whole original raison d'etre for WoV was that it was a site where casino games could be analyzed with the objective of aiding players. And the person overseeing it was presumed to not only be expert, but on board with the idea of educating newbies and the general public. So when somebody promotes a clearly non-optimal style of play and is protected by the site and alleged expert, then it makes the entire site, and the administrators, look as if they are in bed (whether they prefer to be or not) with the casinos --- which, if you understand who now owns and operates WoV, is pretty obviously the case. Now me, I think it's halfway funny that somebody can get away with being defined as an "expert" while promoting non-optimal ways of gambling, but what do you expect? It's capitalism at its finest. Money (and bullshit, if it's connected to the money) talk, and the people saying that the emperor/experts have no clothes walk.

    I mean, isn't that how the world of unfettered capitalism usually works? Oversight eventually gets corrupted, and then you have bullshit masquerading as a helping hand.







    https://wizardofvegas.com/member/qfit/posts/16/

  2. #3802
    ....................................


    I don't actually know what you're referring to at WOV
    but at BJTF I think what happened was that 3 just wore people down

    good gracious, if it was put into a book what he wrote it would probably have been 15,000 pages

    I think at various times he was called out by lots of people including Don and Norm at some times

    but the guy persisted - he would write another 25 pages and the thing is he was playing the devil's game - there was some truth in what he said mixed in with a whole lot of BS

    as far as I know, nobody gets banned from a gambling forum for posting BS - it's all over the web

    could Don and Norm have been more forceful? - yes - but then they knew he would just wear them down by putting out another 25 pages

    did they have an obligation to continue to pound the guy? I don't think so - it was like a hopeless situation - and I don't think somebody should be banned for posting BS because that would open a big can of worms
    Last edited by Half Smoke; 03-01-2020 at 02:04 PM.
    please don't feed the trolls

  3. #3803
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    ....................................


    I don't actually know what you're referring to at WOV
    but at BJTF I think what happened was that 3 just wore people down

    good gracious, if it was put into a book what he wrote it would probably have been 15,000 pages

    I think at various time he was called out by lots of people including Don and Norm at some times

    but the guy persisted - he would write another 25 pages and the thing is he was playing the devil's game - there was some truth in what he said mixed in with a whole lot of BS

    as far as I know, nobody gets banned from a gambling forum for posting BS - it's all over the web

    could Don and Norm have been more forceful? - yes - but then they knew he would just wear them down by putting out another 25 pages

    did they have an obligation to continue to pound the guy? I don't think so - it was like a hopeless situation - and I don't think somebody should be banned for posting BS because that would open a big can of worms

    If you don't call out the bullshit, then you're part of the bullshit.

  4. #3804
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I just checked and the Alexa rank of THIS VCT forum has risen by about 400,000 since the Adventures of MDawg thread.

    As I wrote elsewhere, the Alexa rank of WOV has plummeted since MDawg stopped posting at that forum - WOV peaked at about 70000 Alexa rank during the height of MDawg's thread, and within two weeks of my last suspension plummeted to 200,000 and has remained in that general vicinity ever since.
    There was a "mass exit" at WOV that had nothing to do with you, and some people started posting more over here. I'm not going to bother trying to match up the exact timeline on all this, but that had to have had a significant effect as well.

    I will not deny your posts bring site views. I bet you it was super popular when Nathan and all of her "friends" were there, so what does that tell you?

    I don't know about this site I can definitely tell you the views posted on WOV threads are extremely inflated. Anytime there is an action made weather that's editing a post, adding a spoiler, hitting the back button etc it adds a view count.
    Most forums, if not all, do it that way. Every time the thread gets a new hit it increases the view count.
    I have no doubt that's how it works for the most part. I've just seen people bragging that their thread/posts had thousands of views or some b******* like that, and they believe that their post/thread was actually read thousands of times, when in reality it was like 50 people +25 of Nathan's sock puppets.

    Whatever the case, WOV/WOO is a business and WOO is what matters. I have a feeling WOV does more damage to their overall business model then it helps. Almost everybody on that forum is anti gambling online and the forum actually helps expose why most people shouldn't be gambling online. When's the last time something great/good was said about online gambling there? 95% is negative. Perhaps the the lottery betting thread. I know there's stuff about regulated online casinos, however, I don't think they make any money from those.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 03-01-2020 at 03:12 PM.

  5. #3805
    I don't have 25 Socks on WOV, Axel! I have like 8 or 9 ....

    BlackjackPro
    Alexander
    Luscioussweet2
    Kentry
    Dean
    Nathan
    Nelvin
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


    Smart is knowing a Tomato is a fruit.

    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  6. #3806
    You forgot to put crazychika at least

  7. #3807
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    I don't have 25 Socks on WOV, Axel! I have like 8 or 9 ....

    BlackjackPro
    Alexander
    Luscioussweet2
    Kentry
    Dean
    Nathan
    Nelvin
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name

  8. #3808
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    I don't have 25 Socks on WOV, Axel! I have like 8 or 9 ....

    BlackjackPro
    Alexander
    Luscioussweet2
    Kentry
    Dean
    Nathan
    Nelvin
    Forgotten Name
    Forgotten Name
    Nathan, for the most part I think you're harmless and add some color to the forums, personally, I like having you on the forums, admittedly it's frequently in limited doses. You're okay in my book. However, (and that's a big however) you have lied so many times even "to my face" even after being asked multiple times directly. If I recall correctly, you almost got me suspended at WOV because the bunch of bulshit over luscious sweet.

    So, I can never ever believe you when you tell me anything regarding your sock puppets. Along with the addiction you have with sock puppets you have an addiction to lying about them as well. Don't worry, you're not the only one that's addicted to making sock puppets. I'm sure most of the people calling you out are guilty of having made sock puppets as well. It could be worse, you could be one of those people who make fake claims about always winning at Baccarat.

  9. #3809
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    You forgot to put crazychika at least
    Krazychicka was not one of my Socks!
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


    Smart is knowing a Tomato is a fruit.

    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  10. #3810
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    You forgot to put crazychika at least
    Krazychicka was not one of my Socks!
    Cut the bullshit. That’s not the truth.

  11. #3811
    beachbumbabs
    March 4th, 2020 at 12:35:02 PM

    MDawg and HostVIP3tables are banned, nuclear option, for sock accounts and generating an account just to insult and attack a member, multiple personal insults to multiple members.

  12. #3812
    Like I posted elsewhere, HostVIPTables must be AxelWolf. He got upset this morning that I posted about how others had said that he lives in a tiny North Vegas condo, and decided to take action against me at WOV. Childish, but, predictable. Who else had motive to go after MDawg today?

    And by the way, we've been driving back from Vegas all day, so no way I could've been posting at WOV ANYway.

    Like I'm going to create a sock, make it OBVIOUS the sock is me, and get myself nuked, just a week or so before my suspension at WOV runs out?

    The Sicilians could read this one with their eyes closed.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  13. #3813
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Like I posted elsewhere, HostVIPTables must be AxelWolf. He got upset this morning that I posted about how others had said that he lives in a tiny North Vegas condo, and decided to take action against me at WOV. Childish, but, predictable. Who else had motive to go after MDawg today?

    And by the way, we've been driving back from Vegas all day, so no way I could've been posting at WOV ANYway.

    Like I'm going to create a sock, make it OBVIOUS the sock is me, and get myself nuked, just a week or so before my suspension at WOV runs out?

    The Sicilians could read this one with their eyes closed.
    I guess I should ask if they have any proof over there regarding IP address or whether they are just guessing. Any thoughts as to what the responses will be?

  14. #3814
    If it's a kangaroo court crooked forum, then the suspension will stand, in which case I wouldn't want anything to do with the place anyway. Otherwise, like I said, it's obvious that the HostVIPTables is not me. I just won a bunch of money and we were busy packing to leave Vegas, in a very happy mood, and in the middle of that I'm going to spend time at a forum where I've been silent for nearly two months just as my suspension is about to end in a deliberate effort to get myself booted? I just looked at the post from this HostVIPTables he uses the expression "Oh, yes." and "Most certainly" - have I ever spoken like that?

    How about if someone from WOV asks DanDruff here at this forum what IP address I was using yesterday morning while I was in Vegas to make these posts, I guarantee that IP address will not match whatever IP address the loser used who posted at WOV yesterday, because that loser could not have been staying at the top floor of the Cosmopolitan using their hotel guest internet marked for my suite. If you want to follow a conspiracy theory, the proof that it was AxelWolf would be that he drove to my hotel and used the free PUBLIC internet on the bottom floor of the same hotel in an effort to frame me - and that IP address will still not match the one I used in my suite. But even if Axel didn't go to that effort, further proof that he did this would be that he didn't bother to respond to anything I said against him at GF, and instead took action to frame me. When in his life has AxelWolf ever let anything go? He let go what I posted at GF because he didn't want to draw heat on himself while he hatched the scheme at WOV, and then responded, mildly only, to what I had posted at GF only AFTER he saw that his plot at WOV had succeeded.
    Last edited by MDawg; 03-05-2020 at 07:37 AM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  15. #3815
    By the way, I just glanced at the WOV MDawg thread and some new poster linksjunkie just popped up out of nowhere.

    I am fine with posting at this forum VCT and GF only. I am not posting at WOV, not via any socks, not in any way, not yesterday, not today.

    I have appearances to make for clients today. Real world work. No more time for this nonsense will check in later tonight or tomorrow.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  16. #3816
    It was Axel at the BOTTOM floor of the COSMO using the PUBLIC wifi to frame MDawg at the TOP floor.

    such a low roller move...

  17. #3817
    Account: Yes that's what I think too. There is no question that Axel was behind this. He might've gotten MaxPen to do it for him, doesn't MaxPen live in Vegas too? Because if you search the expressions "Oh, yes" and "Most certainly" at WOV - terms I would NEVER use - they come up in past posts that MaxPen made.

    Anyway, I really have to run it's getting late.

    I did just figure out that linksjunkie is an old time member at WOV. I thought he had just been created today. So, linksjunkie is for real in my defense I was thinking he was a duplicate of HostVIPTables.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  18. #3818
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post

    I am fine with posting at GF

    "GF" as he calls it (gamblingforums.com) has literally dozens of winning players on - EV games
    all kinds of posters sharing their winning systems for -EV games
    all kinds of stuff like "random vs. random", how to "read" randomness, TurboGenius claims a system that shows absolute proof that you can win predicting repeaters at roulette
    the founder, Nathan Detroit, claims he has a winning system for even chances at roulette which he got from John Patrick - John Patrick is famous for the "up and pull" progression - such as 1, 3, 2 then 4 - any loss takes you back to 1 - for Nathan Detroit it's no sweat to beat a 5.26% house edge
    it's a real classy place
    it's a good place for a newbie to learn from some great "pros"






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    Last edited by Half Smoke; 03-05-2020 at 09:34 AM.
    please don't feed the trolls

  19. #3819
    For the record: there are some nice newer neighborhoods in North Las Vegas. When people think of North Las Vegas, they generally think of the North Las Vegas Blvd area, running through the homeless corridor up toward Nellis, which is a pretty run down area. Kind of a "time forgot" area. But west of that, like Simmons road area running all the way up to Alainte is pretty nice, Many newer, higher priced communities, and the Aliante area (Aliante Casino) is one of the newer modern areas and prices reflect that. I have no idea if or where Axelwolf might live, I am just saying.

    As for the accusation that Axelwolf and or now MaxPen went to Cosmo, used the wifi in the lobby to create a sockpuppet, that seems unlikely to me and Mdawg, you have zero proof of that, yet you are naming names. That makes you no better than the crooked Mods/management at WoV.

    I am not very fond of Axelwolf. I have found him to be a sleazy, dishonest, sneaky, little, man, in my dealing with him. If it turns out he stooped to the level of these accusation, it wouldn't surprise me, but I don't think it is fair to accuse that without something more than an assumption. As for MaxPen, come on, grasping at straws. "He lives in Vegas so it could be him". Come on give me a break.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 03-05-2020 at 10:22 AM.

  20. #3820
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    . As for MaxPen, come on, grasping at straws. "He lives in Vegas so it could be him". Come on give me a break.
    Very interesting comment. Are you saying it is just as likely it could be you since you live in Las Vegas?

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