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  1. #4321
    Not that you deserve it Boz, but I will answer your charge. I have no more sexual interest in Wizard than you have of say, Rosie O'Donnell or Nancy Pelosi. You are a straight guy (I am assuming) and straight guys are attracted to females, so that would mean you desire Rosie and Nancy right? I mean come on, do you see how stupid and immature this shit is?

    If I wanted back on WoV so bad that I would do anything as you and others are saying, I would have been back at WoV 4 years ago or anytime in between. I have always had that option. It involved something I am not willing to do. And so I am still not at WoV and may never be. I don't know.

    And I am not all of the sudden a big fan of WoV. There are many things about that forum and the way it is run that I don't like. I dislike how it has moved away from what it once was....which is the WoV, I signed up for. Maybe if I get back there and a few more like me that want to steer discussion more towards gambling, Las Vegas, we can steer the forum back at least towards what it used to be. And then again, maybe I or we can't. I don't know. What I do know is this forum, is now only a troll forum. And that isn't a reference to Rob. It is everyone. All this forum is, is people trolling one another. "You suck dick", "your momma is fat".

    I mean do you realize Dan Druff doesn't even participate here any more. He might pop in every few weeks and say something, but he isn't the regular poster that he used to be. My guess is he finds his own forum objectionable.

    I know this will fall on deaf ears yet again, but can't we do better than this? Can't discussions including criticism be more mature, like civilized human beings. I know you guys don't talk like this in everyday life. not to your wives, kids, grandkids, families. Not even to strangers. If you did, you would get your ass kicked and yourself shot. Just act like freaking adults for a change.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  2. #4322
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Not that you deserve it Boz, but I will answer your charge. I have no more sexual interest in Wizard than you have of say, Rosie O'Donnell or Nancy Pelosi. You are a straight guy (I am assuming) and straight guys are attracted to females, so that would mean you desire Rosie and Nancy right? I mean come on, do you see how stupid and immature this shit is?

    If I wanted back on WoV so bad that I would do anything as you and others are saying, I would have been back at WoV 4 years ago or anytime in between. I have always had that option. It involved something I am not willing to do. And so I am still not at WoV and may never be. I don't know.

    And I am not all of the sudden a big fan of WoV. There are many things about that forum and the way it is run that I don't like. I dislike how it has moved away from what it once was....which is the WoV, I signed up for. Maybe if I get back there and a few more like me that want to steer discussion more towards gambling, Las Vegas, we can steer the forum back at least towards what it used to be. And then again, maybe I or we can't. I don't know. What I do know is this forum, is now only a troll forum. And that isn't a reference to Rob. It is everyone. All this forum is, is people trolling one another. "You suck dick", "your momma is fat".

    I mean do you realize Dan Druff doesn't even participate here any more. He might pop in every few weeks and say something, but he isn't the regular poster that he used to be. My guess is he finds his own forum objectionable.

    I know this will fall on deaf ears yet again, but can't we do better than this? Can't discussions including criticism be more mature, like civilized human beings. I know you guys don't talk like this in everyday life. not to your wives, kids, grandkids, families. Not even to strangers. If you did, you would get your ass kicked and yourself shot. Just act like freaking adults for a change.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Do you guys know how stupid you look with these sexual attacks and putdowns? I mean this isn't a bust on anyone, but it is just very immature and really highlights one's insecurity. And yeah, I occasionally do it too. When people are constantly calling you names, it is human tendency to do so back. But it is really retarded. I keep saying that it is so 3rd grade and it really is. Mature adult people don't act this way, with all the dick sucking references, and who is fucking who. Honest to god, what is the matter with you guys. Did the whole bunch of you never progress beyond a 3rd grade mentality? Or in your advanced years are you progressing back to that level.

    MaxPen has mentioned he was thinking of notifying Rob's family, his wife and kids of his behavior here. I have given that some thought too, but that is crossing a line. But just think about this, forget Rob, who has acted like an asshole for decades, but the rest of you. What if your wife, kids, grandkids, were to read the things you post on these forums. I am not talking about your political views. Maybe your family shares that. I am talking all the "cock sucking", "so and so has their cock down your throat", "take it up the ass comments"? Would your wife, kids grandkids be proud of you? I mean seriously.

    If you have a problem or criticism of someone...fine. Discuss it and voice your criticism like adult human beings. Don't immediately mimic the behavior of the low class inter city thug types that most of you rail about.

    Maybe if you didn't have Dan's Cock in your mouth I could understand your last two posts of mumbling!
    My Slant Eyed Wife doesn't care.
    She is too busy cleaning the house and doing laundry!
    If she has time, she better get in the kitchen where she belongs.

  3. #4323
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Not that you deserve it Boz, but I will answer your charge. I have no more sexual interest in Wizard than you have of say, Rosie O'Donnell or Nancy Pelosi. You are a straight guy (I am assuming) and straight guys are attracted to females, so that would mean you desire Rosie and Nancy right? I mean come on, do you see how stupid and immature this shit is?

    If I wanted back on WoV so bad that I would do anything as you and others are saying, I would have been back at WoV 4 years ago or anytime in between. I have always had that option. It involved something I am not willing to do. And so I am still not at WoV and may never be. I don't know.

    And I am not all of the sudden a big fan of WoV. There are many things about that forum and the way it is run that I don't like. I dislike how it has moved away from what it once was....which is the WoV, I signed up for. Maybe if I get back there and a few more like me that want to steer discussion more towards gambling, Las Vegas, we can steer the forum back at least towards what it used to be. And then again, maybe I or we can't. I don't know. What I do know is this forum, is now only a troll forum. And that isn't a reference to Rob. It is everyone. All this forum is, is people trolling one another. "You suck dick", "your momma is fat".

    I mean do you realize Dan Druff doesn't even participate here any more. He might pop in every few weeks and say something, but he isn't the regular poster that he used to be. My guess is he finds his own forum objectionable.

    I know this will fall on deaf ears yet again, but can't we do better than this? Can't discussions including criticism be more mature, like civilized human beings. I know you guys don't talk like this in everyday life. not to your wives, kids, grandkids, families. Not even to strangers. If you did, you would get your ass kicked and yourself shot. Just act like freaking adults for a change.

    You missed the point KJ.

    The Wizard is not gay and there is nothing YOU personally could do to him that would help. However you could send someone his way to make him happy.

    As for you, I know you are gay and have no interest in women. Which is actually why I said you would eat pussy if it made Mike happy.

    Because it would show how much you APPEAR to want to get back there. If you don’t really feel that way, you do a poor job of showing it.

    Honestly I expected more of you as you have pointed out over the years all the “quirks” the Wiz has to say the least.

    As for Dan, I personally have grown to enjoy his form of moderation compared to the Wiz’s obviously Politically biased Way.

    And being what you call childish, you really should look at some of your posts of the years. You are no different than most of us. I for one enjoy the banter here, even with the people I don’t agree with.

    I think we are lucky to have Dan running this place at his expense.

  4. #4324
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Not that you deserve it Boz, but I will answer your charge. I have no more sexual interest in Wizard than you have of say, Rosie O'Donnell or Nancy Pelosi. You are a straight guy (I am assuming) and straight guys are attracted to females, so that would mean you desire Rosie and Nancy right? I mean come on, do you see how stupid and immature this shit is?

    If I wanted back on WoV so bad that I would do anything as you and others are saying, I would have been back at WoV 4 years ago or anytime in between. I have always had that option. It involved something I am not willing to do. And so I am still not at WoV and may never be. I don't know.

    And I am not all of the sudden a big fan of WoV. There are many things about that forum and the way it is run that I don't like. I dislike how it has moved away from what it once was....which is the WoV, I signed up for. Maybe if I get back there and a few more like me that want to steer discussion more towards gambling, Las Vegas, we can steer the forum back at least towards what it used to be. And then again, maybe I or we can't. I don't know. What I do know is this forum, is now only a troll forum. And that isn't a reference to Rob. It is everyone. All this forum is, is people trolling one another. "You suck dick", "your momma is fat".

    I mean do you realize Dan Druff doesn't even participate here any more. He might pop in every few weeks and say something, but he isn't the regular poster that he used to be. My guess is he finds his own forum objectionable.

    I know this will fall on deaf ears yet again, but can't we do better than this? Can't discussions including criticism be more mature, like civilized human beings. I know you guys don't talk like this in everyday life. not to your wives, kids, grandkids, families. Not even to strangers. If you did, you would get your ass kicked and yourself shot. Just act like freaking adults for a change.

    You missed the point KJ.

    The Wizard is not gay and there is nothing YOU personally could do to him that would help. However you could send someone his way to make him happy.

    As for you, I know you are gay and have no interest in women. Which is actually why I said you would eat pussy if it made Mike happy.

    Because it would show how much you APPEAR to want to get back there. If you don’t really feel that way, you do a poor job of showing it.

    Honestly I expected more of you as you have pointed out over the years all the “quirks” the Wiz has to say the least.

    As for Dan, I personally have grown to enjoy his form of moderation compared to the Wiz’s obviously Politically biased Way.

    And being what you call childish, you really should look at some of your posts of the years. You are no different than most of us. I for one enjoy the banter here, even with the people I don’t agree with.

    I think we are lucky to have Dan running this place at his expense.
    I think it comes down to personalities. Michael Shackleford really doesn't like confrontation and over-the-top controversy. I think he truly wants everybody to get along and enjoy the Forum, I don't think he wants to deal with all the b*******. Let's not forget, it's a business I'm fairly certain whatever controversy is going on won't get people to sign up and play at online casinos.

    Dan doesn't make any money on this site, and Dan isn't opposed to controversy and confrontation, I rather say Dan enjoys a little controversy. You also enjoy controversy and giving people shit, I think many of us to do or we wouldn't be over here in the first place. There's nothing wrong with having a place that's heavily moderated and there's nothing wrong with having a place that isn't.

    If you really think about it, look at all the time, effort and work that went into the wizard of Vegas and Wizard of ODDS. Mike was saying he never made any money on the Forum all of his Revenue came from The Wizard of odds. The Forum certainly may have directed people to the wizard of odds.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 05-23-2020 at 03:30 PM.

  5. #4325
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I think it comes down to personalities. Michael Shackleford really doesn't like confrontation and over-the-top controversy. I think he truly wants everybody to get along and enjoy the Forum, I don't think he wants to deal with all the b*******. Let's not forget, it's a business I'm fairly certain whatever controversy is going on won't get people to sign up and play at online casinos.

    Dan doesn't make any money on this site, and Dan isn't opposed to controversy and confrontation, I rather say Dan enjoys a little controversy. You also enjoy controversy and giving people shit, I think many of us to do or we wouldn't be over here in the first place. There's nothing wrong with having a place that's heavily moderated and there's nothing wrong with having a place that isn't.

    If you really think about it, look at all the time, effort and work that went into the wizard of Vegas and Wizard of ODDS. Mike was saying he never made any money on the Forum all of his Revenue came from The Wizard of odds. The Forum certainly may have directed people to the wizard of odds.
    Shut the Fuck Up with your neverending "straddle the fence" Bullshit!
    Mike's so called business is Evil and Shady at best!

  6. #4326
    Poetic justice will be when Norm comes back to posting at WoV just to piss KJ off.

  7. #4327
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Poetic justice will be when Norm comes back to posting at WoV just to piss KJ off.
    Finally... somebody said it!

  8. #4328
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Poetic justice will be when Norm comes back to posting at WoV just to piss KJ off.
    I have to admit, that would be some funny s***.

  9. #4329
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Poetic justice will be when Norm comes back to posting at WoV just to piss KJ off.
    I have to admit, that would be some funny s***.
    I would have no problem with that. I don't hate Norm. As a matter of fact, I can say with great certainty, that I wouldn't be where I am today without Norm's BJ software. So how can I hate someone that has given me that?

    My only problem with Norm was that he protected someone who he knew was intentionally misleading players. Does that sound familiar because calling out these guys is what I am always about.

    You have to understand that forum owners have a different agenda. They are interesting in forum traffic. Some of them will say that isn't the case but it always is. Even on this site, Dan banned Rob for making racial slurs. 6 months later Dan allowed Rob back and specifically cited that traffic was down as the reason.

    So Norm is a blackjack guy, a math guy, a numbers guy and he allowed a guy to run wild with his claims of super duper counts, achieving 5% advantages, which is impossible. So happens the guy was the leading poster on his forum by far. Why are these guys always the poster with the most volume of posts? So, I don't hold Norm responsible for the guy making impossible claims, just as I don't hold Dan responsible for Rob's claims. I do hold Norm responsible for protecting the guy and not allowing us to challenge these math defying claims.

    And in the end, years later although it wasn't me and I was long gone, I was proven right. And the guy even admitted that as time went on and he got a larger sample size his claims came back down to earth, just as the math said. Then he made stupid excuses like he wasn't even talking about blackjack and disappeared completely.

    So I was proven right. I have no need to rehash it with Norm and would be quite capable of existing with him.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  10. #4330
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Poetic justice will be when Norm comes back to posting at WoV just to piss KJ off.
    I have to admit, that would be some funny s***.
    I would have no problem with that. I don't hate Norm. As a matter of fact, I can say with great certainty, that I wouldn't be where I am today without Norm's BJ software. So how can I hate someone that has given me that?

    My only problem with Norm was that he protected someone who he knew was intentionally misleading players. Does that sound familiar because calling out these guys is what I am always about.

    You have to understand that forum owners have a different agenda. They are interesting in forum traffic. Some of them will say that isn't the case but it always is. Even on this site, Dan banned Rob for making racial slurs. 6 months later Dan allowed Rob back and specifically cited that traffic was down as the reason.

    So Norm is a blackjack guy, a math guy, a numbers guy and he allowed a guy to run wild with his claims of super duper counts, achieving 5% advantages, which is impossible. So happens the guy was the leading poster on his forum by far. Why are these guys always the poster with the most volume of posts? So, I don't hold Norm responsible for the guy making impossible claims, just as I don't hold Dan responsible for Rob's claims. I do hold Norm responsible for protecting the guy and not allowing us to challenge these math defying claims.

    And in the end, years later although it wasn't me and I was long gone, I was proven right. And the guy even admitted that as time went on and he got a larger sample size his claims came back down to earth, just as the math said. Then he made stupid excuses like he wasn't even talking about blackjack and disappeared completely.

    So I was proven right. I have no need to rehash it with Norm and would be quite capable of existing with him.
    In other words, you would eat pussy to be back at WoV.

  11. #4331
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    In other words, you would eat pussy to be back at WoV.
    The war is over Boz! I am not going to keep fighting it. No need. That does no one any good.

    I actually won the war. When the guy involved admitted his claims do not hold up and then disappeared (probably posting under a different name). Not sure what good it did me "winning the war", but the war is over. I am not going to keep fighting it.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  12. #4332
    Hey question for you WoVers: well actually it is about DI. I just saw Shrek quote EvenBob. I thought they were the same person? no? yes?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  13. #4333
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Hey question for you WoVers: well actually it is about DI. I just saw Shrek quote EvenBob. I thought they were the same person? no? yes?
    Evenbob should change his name to EvenFool. He's the "Jack of all trades, master of none" of the internet. Why anyone interacts with that asswipe is beyond me.

  14. #4334
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Hey question for you WoVers: well actually it is about DI. I just saw Shrek quote EvenBob. I thought they were the same person? no? yes?
    Spike is Evenbob. People think that Yeah Baby and Shrek are the same person.

  15. #4335
    Originally Posted by Cookie Monster View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Hey question for you WoVers: well actually it is about DI. I just saw Shrek quote EvenBob. I thought they were the same person? no? yes?
    Spike is Evenbob. People think that Yeah Baby and Shrek are the same person.
    People also think your Tasha/Nathan/Karen/Dean/Luscious Sweet/Donut/Kentry and many others.

  16. #4336
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I have to admit, that would be some funny s***.
    I would have no problem with that. I don't hate Norm. As a matter of fact, I can say with great certainty, that I wouldn't be where I am today without Norm's BJ software. So how can I hate someone that has given me that?

    My only problem with Norm was that he protected someone who he knew was intentionally misleading players. Does that sound familiar because calling out these guys is what I am always about.

    You have to understand that forum owners have a different agenda. They are interesting in forum traffic. Some of them will say that isn't the case but it always is. Even on this site, Dan banned Rob for making racial slurs. 6 months later Dan allowed Rob back and specifically cited that traffic was down as the reason.

    So Norm is a blackjack guy, a math guy, a numbers guy and he allowed a guy to run wild with his claims of super duper counts, achieving 5% advantages, which is impossible. So happens the guy was the leading poster on his forum by far. Why are these guys always the poster with the most volume of posts? So, I don't hold Norm responsible for the guy making impossible claims, just as I don't hold Dan responsible for Rob's claims. I do hold Norm responsible for protecting the guy and not allowing us to challenge these math defying claims.

    And in the end, years later although it wasn't me and I was long gone, I was proven right. And the guy even admitted that as time went on and he got a larger sample size his claims came back down to earth, just as the math said. Then he made stupid excuses like he wasn't even talking about blackjack and disappeared completely.

    So I was proven right. I have no need to rehash it with Norm and would be quite capable of existing with him.
    In other words, you would eat pussy to be back at WoV.
    What's wrong woth that? .

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  17. #4337
    DarkOz I think you got screwed on that suspension for posting that video. Sure, it was going to lead to some political talk, but that could happen on anything. You were just basically posting up some news, I don't see anything wrong with that.

    No doubt you deserve a suspension for other things this just isn't one of them.

  18. #4338
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    DarkOz I think you got screwed on that suspension for posting that video. Sure, it was going to lead to some political talk, but that could happen on anything. You were just basically posting up some news, I don't see anything wrong with that.

    No doubt you deserve a suspension for other things this just isn't one of them.
    Wizard just reversed I guess cause I can now post

    Jesus, now every right winger on this damn board is gonna accuse me of some kinda liberal favoritism

  19. #4339
    Happened to me four times at WOV. Twice, I was in red ink and then I was taken out and restored as they thought better of it. You may search back for the details not worth getting into. Then once I was nuked in absentia for posting as a sock during a suspension, until they realized that it was not I, but another...who looked like me. And a fourth time I got the reverse treatment, was merely warned and then a couple of weeks later they all had a pow-wow and decided that I should be suspended.

    What's funny though (otherwise just another ordinary day at WOV) is how DarkOz is musing about how he is special, somehow the only one who has been suspended then had the suspension lifted. Typical DarkOz.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  20. #4340
    Sorry I am not a WOV historian.

    I don't remember any suspensions being reversed but if you say it happened four times to you?

    I do remember the nuking in absentia. There were claims you were a sock go back and you will see I kept out of that because I saw no evidence one way or another

    And there is some irony in claiming I think everything is about me coming from a guy who posts his adventures every few days or so

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