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  1. #541
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I'm a sick, twisted, crippled individual though.
    Ah, a perfect candidate for the open mod slot.

    Zero pay and all the flak you can handle.

    They say that "virtue is its own reward."
    I stole that line from the hustler with Paul Newman.

    You don't have to wear a mask Eddie. They wear masks but you don't have to Eddie. Inside their perverted, twisted, crippled.

    Not the exact quote but close enough.
    Piper Laurie

  2. #542
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    William Yung is by far the voice of reason and analyzes the situation perfectly. I notice Yung and LarryS take a lot of backlash and criticism but in the last few months they post up some darn good points and posts IMO.

    Ozzy makes great points about the brown misers but BoyMimbo did make a turnaround telling a story about getting shafted on s football contest. However, that member like many WoV members sure does love his Wiz Kid.

    I'm surprised Roger Kint isnt up Mikes rectum like he was when I told mike to GFY!?
    You are correct that LarryS often makes good points and is a somewhat entertaining writer...he just never shuts his mouth for 14 hrs at a time, often saturating his good points with mud the rest of the time...Bill Jung is just a plain moron who’s posts give most people a migraine
    maybe I post useless info and comments as you keep commenting on.

    so all you do is comment on the useless commentor

    so what does that make you..... useless once removed.

    congrats

  3. #543
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    William Yung is by far the voice of reason and analyzes the situation perfectly. I notice Yung and LarryS take a lot of backlash and criticism but in the last few months they post up some darn good points and posts IMO.

    Ozzy makes great points about the brown nosers but BoyMimbo did make a turnaround telling a story about getting shafted on a football contest. However, that member like many WoV members sure does love his Wiz Kid.

    I'm surprised Roger Kint isnt up Mikes rectum like he was when I told mike to GFY!?
    You may not like Roger Kint, but he has a mind of his own and is not a sheep, like many others on that site. He's very entertaining at times.
    Kint is a conservative so doesn't qualify to be a mod. Only libtards need apply.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #544
    Someone pointed out on the penaltybox site, that its funny how many ass kissers came out for the resignation thread of mission. That was his terminology.

    And I replied......its funny how all those "supporters" stayed on the sideline while he twisted in the wind....and then when the smoke cleared....they come out when its too late.

    If this was a boxing match it would have been called much earlier, but it went on for pages and pages...andin the end no one stepped in. The wiz didnt, other mods didnt(BBB only suspended someone after mission cried foul and said it was trolling and bullying).....and certainly none of the new supporters that just arrived.

    Now mission didnt help himself in all of this in the manner in which he responded. And if he said what he said in his goodbye speech, along the way things may have been different.

    A simple "after seeing all this about WoN...I am sorry i ever associated with that conman". Something like that to let people know you were incensed. But he acted rather calm as if he was told the bus he was waiting for was going to be 10 minutes late.

    And the other mods were very reserved in ripping WoN. It all seemed from a distance that everyone of authority were in the hip pocket of the man. Thats how it appeared..I am not saying that is a fact.

    So it played out and a culprit was apprehended and charged and punished while all the supporters stood and watched, saying nothing

    NOW the supporters are ready to offer their praise.

    24 hours before he resigned, mission floated a balloon suggesting he would do so. And still none of the supporters(or very few) came forth. Nope.

    I personally think all the mods and wiz share equal blame.....and maybe they all have equal association with WoN.......BUT mission is the only one that has a witness putting them together....even though i think mission did admit early on that he was with won for 6 days or so overall possibly before darkoz told his story...not sure about that timeline.

    But everyone(mods) had the opportunity to delete the signature advert.....an equal opportunity.

    Now that someone was punished no one will care if BBB or face or wiz or AW or ZK had any personal dealings with the conman. It seems mission died/resigned for all the mods sins.

  5. #545
    I thank anyone who supported me regardless of when they did it. People are generally not glued to the computer updating threads every three seconds.

    I requested BBB and Wizard make no attempt to defend me. How many times do I have to repeat myself?

  6. #546
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I thank anyone who supported me regardless of when they did it. People are generally not glued to the computer updating threads every three seconds.

    I requested BBB and Wizard make no attempt to defend me. How many times do I have to repeat myself?
    It doesn't matter what you do or say Mission. Your in a lose lose situation. It won't last long though, mob mentality is fickle and most likely will be forgotten over time. Most of the members don't really matter unless it hurts you physically in the real world somehow by losing opportunities or real life friends. Even if that's the case you have claimed to be primarily a low roller anyway. I know from experience low rolling can snowball into windfalls with patience so in my opinion you only need yourself and information which you have plenty.

    Now about LarryS's post... I said the same thing earlier but with far less words. What gets me about the whole thing that was public was the two people throwing the hissy fit which was RS and Maxpen... they were relentless. Oh and don't forget the Boz gave you plenty of strife as well. Now I was waiting for their fearless leader to show up either bashing you or defending you. Clearly he was stuck in the middle and stayed silent publicly. However, when you put up your resignation thread he showed up with the post about this being a tragedy and basically telling you to focus on the future. I could care less if the wiz defends you or not. I like how he posted up saying yeah we knew it and we had to make sure... we caught that criminal... now what you got to say? monet/pingpangpong boiled over and we finally brought the hammer down on him. This was because ibeatyouraces and gwae and poker grinder and many others kept making fun of WoN saying things like strictly and AP in their posts. Wiz couldn't handle it and says he and all mods have gotten lazy but that's gonna change which it hasn't really. I've seen plenty of mishaps since his crackdown speech. Either way whatever... it's fun reading while I enjoy this new leather electric powered recliner and watch James Cagney in White Heat... Top of the World Ma!!
    Last edited by monet; 03-14-2018 at 05:07 PM.

  7. #547
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    ...andin the end no one stepped in.
    Not quite.

    Nathan stepped in.

    Alas, Nathan doesn't count.

    Not past "three," anyway, and that's using his/her/its fingers and toes.
    What, Me Worry?

  8. #548
    Its not an excuse when someone stands on the side as a coward and doesnt address the situation. Hes the friggin active boss. Whether you said "dont defend" or not. A person with a conscience who had you work for free to help him maintain a site that gave him 2 million dollars would /should have some gratitude and loyalty to someone who devoted time and energy to his welfare and his families financial welfare.
    A narcissist coward wouldnt care. But a person raised the right way would say screw you Mission....you claim you are innocent..and I will defend you..or try to quell the mob mentality. He has done it before for others.
    He in the end chose not to stick up for you. It was his decision ...not yours. No one wants to be battered. And if a friend of mine said dont help me as I watched hm be verbally assaulted...then count me in. Especially someone I owe a debt of gratitude to as I count my 2 million,

    So the wiz is no less of a coward because you told him to not defend you. Only a whimp coward would gladly say "oh ok..see ya at the resignation thread".

    People used to comment that there was not even a token gift given to the mods when he sold for the large sum. But on top of that he lets his mod twist in the wind. What a crap way to treat someone devoted to helping you for years.

    But the wov board is all about punishment .....the people who dole it out love it, and the people who witness it love it. Some douchebag in the middle of the lynch mission thread actually asked if the original poster that mission deleted should be suspended. WTF....out of nowhere someone needed to get a ruling and see some more punishment. THe lynching of mission wasnt enough....he needed another victim.
    But thats the sickness that has been created over there. From the wiz declaring that he suspends to quell his bad moods, to treating people like crap with the "dont let the door hit you" customer service mantra, too declaring the suspension list is meant to shame people.....thats the society that was created.

    And sometimes in that typeof society....what goes around...comes around.

    sometimes the punisher becomes the punished......and the crowd that has been taught well....cheers their approval.

    mission was just a victim of the society that he helped to create.

    the people with backbone were wittled away via nuking and leaving due to customer service issues....leaving the loyal munchkins who can easily be manipulated, and will follow a few strong voiced people without saying a peep against them. But then when the coast is clear, the munchkins come out of the shadows and tell us all how sad it is about mission....while the boss sits on a unicycle on the side.

    Again, I wouldnt be surprised if the wiz had profitable dealings withWon ...and wont say a cross word against him. Its better to see one of his dedicated workes get swept away...then to be viewed as just as dirty.

  9. #549
    Oh yeah, nathan who just now decides to say she was stiffed by Won for a 50 dollar gift card that was used months later and found to be spent before she could use it..

    annoying people deserve it

    if in life this is the most she can come to a message board and complain about......she is blessed

  10. #550
    You make good points in that long post about the Wiz. Remember, he is in Zurich so he ain't got time for this nonsense ha ha.

    I'll tell you a little story about a recent dinner/meeting I had with a member of WoV. Most of these members talk a good game and make it seem like they are crushing it. However, during the time I spent with this person they kept hinting or asking me that they would love to work with me or do something with me. I'm pretty direct, I don't like to beat around the bush but I got the idea they wanted me to pay them to play for me. I explained... I don't work like that. I'm not a bank and I'm not someone who hires people. If I get involved with someone on something we are equal partners putting in equal time and money but honestly it's never gonna work with us for many reasons. One big reason is I dont really know you and you have to live here in Vegas to do the things I do. You need long hours and many days. It was clear that they have the wrong idea about me. I liked the idea of meeting people who understand APing from boards but it is clear after meeting some people off of boards it's completely different in person.

  11. #551
    when I am in safeway, I dont have time for this nonsense either...I dont need to be in Zurich. We are not talking about Henry Kissinger...we are talking about a socially backward actuary.

  12. #552
    Actuary?

    He's gotten a new job?

    Since when?

    Last I heard he was just fucking off.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that (if you're a millionaire).
    What, Me Worry?

  13. #553
    Just wanted to stop in and throw my 2 cents into the cup.

    While I was a member at the WOV, I challenged any AP to meet up with me the weekend I was going to the Borgata for a poker tournament. The only person that contacted me was WON. He said he would see what’s going on that weekend and demonstrate to me his talents. We agreed to meet at the entrance to the poker room at a certain time on Saturday morning.

    I can’t bring up my pm’s from WOV, but for some reason I started going back and forth with AxelWolf. I told him who I was meeting in AC and he warned me to be careful with anyone I meet from the forums. He warned that people in person may not have good intentions in so many words. Now, looking back I can’t help but suspect Axel knew more than he was saying.

    I would never meet anyone unknown, especially from the internet anywhere that would put me in a dangerous position one on one. I was in AC with three other friends for the tournament which two were lingering across the entrance in the slot area keeping an eye on me from a safe distance. I took a photo of the time (9am) and date from my friend’s phone with the poker room in the background, and another at (10am) to confirm I was there. Obviously, he was a no show, and later said he had a flight that afternoon and didn’t think I would show up.

    Now knowing the scumbag he actually is, why would he show up? He had to realize asking me to invest in any play would have been a joke in of itself. Not knowing then what I know now about AP’ing, I was expecting him to walk into the casino and magically start pulling AP bucks out of the thin air.

    I later offered to meet up with Axel while staying in Vegas. That too was a no show, but, I understand Axels stance based on my past postings. Looking back now I also understand he must deal with plenty of these online scumbag AP’s and rightfully so should be skeptical.

    What I did find interesting about Axel, was only after offering my house to him if he was ever on the East Coast and being able to shuttle back and forth to AC in a private plane, (not mine but a friend’s plane) he soon afterwards contacted me and offered an olive branch. He was willing to exchange phone numbers and felt by having a phone call with me live he would be able to evaluate if he could trust me and if I was full of shit or not. That raised the red flags for me and in so many nice words told him without saying it, to take a walk. It was obvious he only wanted to meet up when he felt there was something to gain.

    It’s now obvious this is what AP’ing is all about. Advantage Play the casinos and any person that gets in between that could add to the advantage. Monet obviously speaks many truths, and the real scumbag alleged AP’s are the ones that deny his truths.

    After reading Bob Dancers 2-part experience with WON, he did expose several things interesting about AP’ing.

    Right off the bat he shares the bullshit and not so straight up moves like phony names, cards, sharing free play with others, etc. The risk of blowing 40K before making profit in less than two hours if variance isn’t there. Hoping he could pull off shoving cash in one machine while playing another and being able to last 6 hours (I think) before the risk of getting thrown out happens. Hoping to have another machine to play while waiting for WGs. If all his stars are aligned that day he could make up to 6K.

    If this was a good example of AP’ing professionally, you guys are more fucked up than I ever imagined. Bottom line in my view, you’re nothing but a bunch of high risk gambling hustling con artist fools. Some may be still showing profits, but appears to be nothing carved in stone for a secure future.

    Moving into my house in Nevada in a few months. I should be there often, and certainly wouldn’t want to meet up with any of you hustlers.

  14. #554
    Nice post blackhole! I really enjoyed the ending of it, made me laugh... still laughing. I'll be honest as usual on these forums. I give it straight on these forums. I am so much different now compared to 10 or 20 years ago. That credit has to go to God and just age really. However, my damn wife loved or loves me unconditionally. When someone in the real world loves you no matter what it can overcome any evil or dark heart. It's pretty amazing really. This proves to me the scriptures that talk about blessing your enemies and doing good to those that curse you or use you in a dispicable manner and it will be like hot coals on their head. True Love really does conquer all.

    I'm still a wicked evil bastard far from an honest person. No human alive can live in Sin City and be righteous. Just not possible no matter what anyone says or thinks. However, my ways have changed in that I steal from Casinos or corporations. Make no mistake... it is still stealing or hustling.

    I'll tell you all another quick WoV story that I already told and nobody commented on. I ask a Mod in a PM a long time ago about teaming up and is it really worth more money to me. They reply yes but currently only two teams are on WoV that they know of... one is honest and trustworthy, the other scams. So a Mod knows they have a crew that scams on their site. I will let you all figure out who the leaders are of the good and evil crew. It's pretty obvious since they preach the good crew all the time and now we see who the evil leader was. If you ask me the good honest crew finally outed the evil crew, eliminating the competition.

    Once again this is a Mod telling me in private they have a crew on their site that scams... understand that you dumb ploppies lol!?

    Honestly it didn't take me very long to realize that WoV is just a front and the real story is behind the scenes in private messaging. It's obviously just a breeding ground to recruit players for players cards and or team play. All the talk and math is just icing. This is why they don't talk much about gambling really... they just make jokes at each others expense and laugh with sarcastic one liners primarily.

    Also, I may have taken some criticism or flak but if you study my posts and the reactions you will see nobody is in here trying to refute me or my information. Why? Because they can't. It's too solid. The best they can do is to resort to name calling at best or maybe tell a story about how honest they are or how honest their crew is. How do I know they can't really refute me? Easy, they send me private messages asking me to delete all my posted information lol!?

    Don't you all find it funny that the ones who say they hate gambling forums and wish they didn't exist have thousand upon thousands of posts and log in every day on every site reading every gambling related post??? They hate the sites but they love to post and read!?
    Last edited by monet; 03-15-2018 at 08:27 AM.

  15. #555
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Nice post blackhole! I really enjoyed the ending of it, made me laugh... still laughing. I'll be honest as usual on these forums. I give it straight on these forums. I am so much different now compared to 10 or 20 years ago. That credit has to go to God and just age really. However, my damn wife loved or loves me unconditionally. When someone in the real world loves you no matter what it can overcome any evil or dark heart. It's pretty amazing really. This proves to me the scriptures that talk about blessing your enemies and doing good to those that curse you or use you in a dispicable manner and it will be like hot coals on their head. True Love really does conquer all.

    I'm still a wicked evil bastard far from an honest person. No human alive can live in Sin City and be righteous. Just not possible no matter what anyone says or thinks. However, my ways have changed in that I steal from Casinos or corporations. Make no mistake... it is still stealing or hustling.

    I'll tell you all another quick WoV story that I already told and nobody commented on. I ask a Mod in a PM a long time ago about teaming up and is it really worth more money to me. They reply yes but currently only two teams are on WoV that they know of... one is honest and trustworthy, the other scams. So a Mod knows they have a crew that scams on their site. I will let you all figure out who the leaders are of the good and evil crew. It's pretty obvious since they preach the good crew all the time and now we see who the evil leader was. If you ask me the good honest crew finally outed the evil crew, eliminating the competition.

    Once again this is a Mod telling me in private they have a crew on their site that scams... understand that you dumb ploppies lol!?
    Monet, what you just said pretty much sums it up.

    But, to reiterate, what would one expect from a site that purports to help people win at gambling but whose income is derived from casino advertising? I mean, c'mon, it's like realizing....SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

    No fucking kidding.

  16. #556
    Yes I agree with you redietz. I added more to my post after your quote though sooo there is that.

  17. #557
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Just wanted to stop in and throw my 2 cents into the cup.

    While I was a member at the WOV, I challenged any AP to meet up with me the weekend I was going to the Borgata for a poker tournament. The only person that contacted me was WON. He said he would see what’s going on that weekend and demonstrate to me his talents. We agreed to meet at the entrance to the poker room at a certain time on Saturday morning.

    I can’t bring up my pm’s from WOV, but for some reason I started going back and forth with AxelWolf. I told him who I was meeting in AC and he warned me to be careful with anyone I meet from the forums. He warned that people in person may not have good intentions in so many words. Now, looking back I can’t help but suspect Axel knew more than he was saying.

    I would never meet anyone unknown, especially from the internet anywhere that would put me in a dangerous position one on one. I was in AC with three other friends for the tournament which two were lingering across the entrance in the slot area keeping an eye on me from a safe distance. I took a photo of the time (9am) and date from my friend’s phone with the poker room in the background, and another at (10am) to confirm I was there. Obviously, he was a no show, and later said he had a flight that afternoon and didn’t think I would show up.

    Now knowing the scumbag he actually is, why would he show up? He had to realize asking me to invest in any play would have been a joke in of itself. Not knowing then what I know now about AP’ing, I was expecting him to walk into the casino and magically start pulling AP bucks out of the thin air.

    I later offered to meet up with Axel while staying in Vegas. That too was a no show, but, I understand Axels stance based on my past postings. Looking back now I also understand he must deal with plenty of these online scumbag AP’s and rightfully so should be skeptical.

    What I did find interesting about Axel, was only after offering my house to him if he was ever on the East Coast and being able to shuttle back and forth to AC in a private plane, (not mine but a friend’s plane) he soon afterwards contacted me and offered an olive branch. He was willing to exchange phone numbers and felt by having a phone call with me live he would be able to evaluate if he could trust me and if I was full of shit or not. That raised the red flags for me and in so many nice words told him without saying it, to take a walk. It was obvious he only wanted to meet up when he felt there was something to gain.

    It’s now obvious this is what AP’ing is all about. Advantage Play the casinos and any person that gets in between that could add to the advantage. Monet obviously speaks many truths, and the real scumbag alleged AP’s are the ones that deny his truths.

    After reading Bob Dancers 2-part experience with WON, he did expose several things interesting about AP’ing.

    Right off the bat he shares the bullshit and not so straight up moves like phony names, cards, sharing free play with others, etc. The risk of blowing 40K before making profit in less than two hours if variance isn’t there. Hoping he could pull off shoving cash in one machine while playing another and being able to last 6 hours (I think) before the risk of getting thrown out happens. Hoping to have another machine to play while waiting for WGs. If all his stars are aligned that day he could make up to 6K.

    If this was a good example of AP’ing professionally, you guys are more fucked up than I ever imagined. Bottom line in my view, you’re nothing but a bunch of high risk gambling hustling con artist fools. Some may be still showing profits, but appears to be nothing carved in stone for a secure future.

    Moving into my house in Nevada in a few months. I should be there often, and certainly wouldn’t want to meet up with any of you hustlers.
    Get a clue. 40k ain't jackall to Dancer. Future? The dude is 70 years old, numnuts. You are a big time sucker for the casinos. Losing is all you know.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #558
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Not that there's anything wrong with that (if you're a millionaire).
    The exception aside, guessers or gamblers are still losers. The biggest of which seek to get "away from themselves" through travel and fine dining.
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  19. #559
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Nice post blackhole! I really enjoyed the ending of it, made me laugh... still laughing. I'll be honest as usual on these forums. I give it straight on these forums. I am so much different now compared to 10 or 20 years ago. That credit has to go to God and just age really. However, my damn wife loved or loves me unconditionally. When someone in the real world loves you no matter what it can overcome any evil or dark heart. It's pretty amazing really. This proves to me the scriptures that talk about blessing your enemies and doing good to those that curse you or use you in a dispicable manner and it will be like hot coals on their head. True Love really does conquer all.

    I'm still a wicked evil bastard far from an honest person. No human alive can live in Sin City and be righteous. Just not possible no matter what anyone says or thinks. However, my ways have changed in that I steal from Casinos or corporations. Make no mistake... it is still stealing or hustling.

    I'll tell you all another quick WoV story that I already told and nobody commented on. I ask a Mod in a PM a long time ago about teaming up and is it really worth more money to me. They reply yes but currently only two teams are on WoV that they know of... one is honest and trustworthy, the other scams. So a Mod knows they have a crew that scams on their site. I will let you all figure out who the leaders are of the good and evil crew. It's pretty obvious since they preach the good crew all the time and now we see who the evil leader was. If you ask me the good honest crew finally outed the evil crew, eliminating the competition.

    Once again this is a Mod telling me in private they have a crew on their site that scams... understand that you dumb ploppies lol!?
    Monet, what you just said pretty much sums it up.

    But, to reiterate, what would one expect from a site that purports to help people win at gambling but whose income is derived from casino advertising? I mean, c'mon, it's like realizing....SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

    No fucking kidding.
    Probably the same reason sports stars/celebrities endorse products. Michael Jordan made substantially more money advertising than he did playing basketball.

  20. #560
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Not that there's anything wrong with that (if you're a millionaire).
    The exception aside, guessers or gamblers are still losers. The biggest of which seek to get "away from themselves" through travel and fine dining.
    I know nobody seems to like you William, but it's hard to refute you when you speak clear like this. I only question is it true that an exception exists? I think you have to go further than just Gamblers... it's pretty clear your statement covers almost all walks of life. Especially the worldly ones.

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