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  1. #5901
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    By the way, it appears Axel is sitting this one out like he often does. Probably too busy making money on an opportunity. And the rest of the people asking logical questions are suspended. Even Dietz, who even in his own way sees through the MDawg charade is silenced.

    Hopefully someone figures out why the Wiz is allowing MDawg to make him look like a puppet. And it can’t be someone they call bitter Boz as the only one who sees this.

    As a banned member or as a regular poster over the years, something doesn’t smell right here.

    What does MDawg have over the Wizard to make him act as he has?
    Your banned? Really? LOL! Mr Perfect is banned! Fucking A right!
    At least we benefit here considerably at VCT because of that outcome, it's their loss.

  2. #5902
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Hopefully someone figures out why the Wiz is allowing MDawg to make him look like a puppet.
    Maybe the Wiz is trying to finally get the shit-talking doubters to put up or shut up.

    Let's face it, if they would have put up instead of talking shit,
    then he would not have shut them up.

    Is there nobody willing to call MDawg's bluff?

    It doesn't have to happen on WOV, any of you cast-outs can do it right here.
    An actual contest would settle nothing as either side could win a meaningless SHORT TERM contest. That is why there are not any takers, as people are not willing to bet on what amounts to a coin flip. Real AP's don't get involved without some kind of real edge over an extended period of time.

    Actually, there is entertainment value for AP's watching all the believers trying to legitimize sheer nonsense.

  3. #5903
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Hopefully someone figures out why the Wiz is allowing MDawg to make him look like a puppet.
    Maybe the Wiz is trying to finally get the shit-talking doubters to put up or shut up.

    Let's face it, if they would have put up instead of talking shit,
    then he would not have shut them up.

    Is there nobody willing to call MDawg's bluff?

    It doesn't have to happen on WOV, any of you cast-outs can do it right here.
    An actual contest would settle nothing as either side could win a meaningless SHORT TERM contest. That is why there are not any takers, as people are not willing to bet on what amounts to a coin flip. Real AP's don't get involved without some kind of real edge over an extended period of time.

    Actually, there is entertainment value for AP's watching all the believers trying to legitimize sheer nonsense.
    +1.

    I shake my head in disbelief at how many people can be fooled by MDawg claims

    Then I remember that the majority of slot gamblers think rubbing the plastic shield on the slot screen will affect the outcome.

  4. #5904
    Fucking jealousy to among and shared by the self proclaimed ap'ers. ROMAFL!

  5. #5905
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Fucking jealousy to among and shared by the self proclaimed ap'ers. ROMAFL!
    Without a doubt, Tasha called this one right and was one of the first to warn us about you, and your personal problems.

  6. #5906
    Tasha has you fucktard fooled as well. I've befriended her and spent hours with her, countless hours on the phone talking to her and trying to comfort her and help her not only with her gambling problems but with her personal problems involving forced prostitution. She talks one story and cries about it and then wakes up a few hours later and talk to another story trying to demean somebody. It's all good think what you want. LoL!

  7. #5907
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Fucking jealousy to among and shared by the self proclaimed ap'ers. ROMAFL!
    Without a doubt, Tasha called this one right and was one of the first to warn us about you, and your personal problems.
    Thank you. For some reason, when I call someone a Troll/Sock I often turn out to be RIGHT. When I eay someone is NOT a Troll/Sock, I often turn out to be WRONG. I told Wynnpleasure when he was still a Newbie that I thought he was Troll, and I am often right about detecting Trolls. In fact, here is the very thread I first called out Wynnpleasure as a Troll/Sock.

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...-I-m-onto-you!
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


    Smart is knowing a Tomato is a fruit.

    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  8. #5908
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Fucking jealousy to among and shared by the self proclaimed ap'ers. ROMAFL!
    Without a doubt, Tasha called this one right and was one of the first to warn us about you, and your personal problems.
    Thank you. For some reason, when I call someone a Troll/Sock I often turn out to be RIGHT. When I eay someone is NOT a Troll/Sock, I often turn out to be WRONG. I told Wynnpleasure when he was still a Newbie that I thought he was Troll, and I am often right about detecting Trolls. In fact, here is the very thread I first called out Wynnpleasure as a Troll/Sock.

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...-I-m-onto-you!
    And we had countless hours back and forth including off the board. You would be shocked at what she told me and what she's into and how she uses the board along with numerous other things. I'm not even going to get into.

    Conversations would total every bit of 100 hours + off the board and it all started with this one link that I'm posting here that she even put on the board to confirm exactly that!!

    "I did answer one of your questions. In a PM..."

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...e-I-m-onto-you!

  9. #5909
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    An actual contest would settle nothing as either side could win a meaningless SHORT TERM contest. That is why there are not any takers, as people are not willing to bet on what amounts to a coin flip. Real AP's don't get involved without some kind of real edge over an extended period of time.
    I don't think you understand MDawg's challenge, it has nothing to do with future play.

    The APs are convinced that MDawg could not have won as he claims because of the math.

    So that's their edge, because any valid documentation of his extended past play will prove that he lost.

  10. #5910
    If I am not mistaken, MDawg has stated or hinted that he can continue to win at the levels and rate going forward.

    Here is another thing I find interesting....the title of the MDawg thread. "The adventures of...". Along the lines of other works of fiction like say "the adventures of Tom Sawyer" or "the adventures of Hunkleberry Finn".

    Makes it look like the adventure of all this winning was pre-planned because it wouldn't be much of an adventure or good read, if he wasn't winning would it. Just a hint by MDawg that it is all fiction.

  11. #5911
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Just a hint by MDawg that it is all fiction.
    Then it should be easy for you to take $50K from him when he can't provide authentic documentation proving that his last month's adventures were non-fiction.

  12. #5912
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    If I am not mistaken, MDawg has stated or hinted that he can continue to win at the levels and rate going forward.
    You must have read that online, so post the quote and there will be no mistaking.

    Put up or shut up.

  13. #5913
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Just a hint by MDawg that it is all fiction.
    Then it should be easy for you to take $50K from him when he can't provide authentic documentation proving that his last month's adventures were non-fiction.
    Not taking a wager (especially one that has a high likelihood of a scam/con game) doesn't make incredible claims more realistic

  14. #5914
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Not taking a wager (especially one that has a high likelihood of a scam/con game) doesn't make incredible claims more realistic
    The incredible claim is yours, that there's a high likelihood of a scam/con game.

    What's the evidence that there's a scam?

    You sound like this guy..."the election was rigged".

  15. #5915
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Not taking a wager (especially one that has a high likelihood of a scam/con game) doesn't make incredible claims more realistic
    The incredible claim is yours, that there's a high likelihood of a scam/con game.

    What's the evidence that there's a scam?

    You sound like this guy..."the election was rigged".
    The evidence is math.

    Sorry you don't think math works.

    You seem friendly with Boz.

    Boz is not my friend. He hated me as a liberal and for my bragging of AP.

    So ask yourself why when it comes to math and MDawg and beating Baccarat Boz and myself (and something tells me MickeyCrimm as well) will all of a sudden be on the same page?

    Because regardless of our political views, we all three agree math works and understand how it affects winning, losing, etc.

  16. #5916
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    The evidence is math.
    Explain how math can disprove these MDawg claims that you listed...

    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    His claims are quite specific.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He played $1000 per hand at Baccarat four hours per day over thirty days straight.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    His expected loss was according to his host -$70,000 but he is up +$50,000.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He was comped full RFB for this entire time at this same property he played but didn't qualify for any promo chips OR FREEPLAY based on the last 18 Months Theo.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He didn't do this based on a system or any Advantage play but on intuition.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He also isn't claiming he got lucky on this one extended trip but has had similar luck on EVERY TRIP he has taken in the recent two years
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He also claims to have been banned in the distant past for card counting Blackjack
    I know that math works, so show the math that could disprove his claims above.

    Put up or shut up.

  17. #5917
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Explain how math can disprove these MDawg claims that you listed...



    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He played $1000 per hand at Baccarat four hours per day over thirty days straight.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    His expected loss was according to his host -$70,000 but he is up +$50,000.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He was comped full RFB for this entire time at this same property he played but didn't qualify for any promo chips OR FREEPLAY based on the last 18 Months Theo.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He didn't do this based on a system or any Advantage play but on intuition.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He also isn't claiming he got lucky on this one extended trip but has had similar luck on EVERY TRIP he has taken in the recent two years
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    He also claims to have been banned in the distant past for card counting Blackjack
    I know that math works, so show the math that could disprove his claims above.

    Put up or shut up.
    If you are asking for the exact breakdown of Baccarat math just go to the WOV sight and read Wiz mathematical analysis as well as his statements about beating Baccarat long-term.

    The math is not just well-known, well analyzed but publicly posted on the very forum this whole thread is about.

    To keep asking to see the math when it's available if you look makes it seem you aren't really interested in the math.

  18. #5918
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    If you are asking for the exact breakdown of Baccarat math just go to the WOV sight and read Wiz mathematical analysis as well as his statements about beating Baccarat long-term.
    MDawg is not claiming to have beaten Baccarat long-term,
    that's not one of the specific claims you attributed to him.

    You made the list, what math can disprove his claims that you listed?

    Math can't even be applied to most of them, and math can't disprove any of them.

    Put up or shut up.

  19. #5919
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Explain how math can disprove these MDawg claims that you listed...
    4 hours a day. 1k bets. 60 bets/hr. 30 days. That's 7.2m in wagers.

    Assuming banker bets, the chance of being up after 7.2m in wagers flat betting $1,000 is 16.68% after simulating 1m trials on the old beatingbonuses two tier simulator. So very plausible, and not even that unlikely.

    BUT. MDawg doesn't just come out a winner at the end of the month. He's a winner EVERY SINGLE DAY. Even when he talks about giving back one days winnings, I don't think he even claimed to be a net loser on that day. He just said that he won in the morning and gave nearly all of it back at night.

    So one day of play is about 240 wagers. Change of being up after flat betting 240 wagers on banker is about 43.19%.

    Now, we can use binomial distribution to determine the chance of being up at least n days over that 30 day period.

    For those playing at home, using gsheets that's 1-BINOMDIST(N,30,.4319,TRUE)

    So what do we get as the odds of being up at least N days over a 30 day span?

    5 days = 99.7%
    10 days = 81.7%
    15 days = 17.4%
    20 days = .2%
    25 days = .000001%
    28 days = .000000000466%
    29 days = .0000000000115%

    Would you infer from MDawg's ramblings that he wins at least 25 out of 30 sessions? Well, that's a million to one right there. Has it happened? Sure. But it happens to him every month. For years. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine how likely it is to have million to 1 months several times a year.

    Look, million to one shots happen. And progressive betting is going to change the numbers a bit vs flat betting. But when you add in that he doesn't know what mailers are, he claims his host is asking him for betting tips, and claims he's being comped at nearly 100% of his theo, it's trivially easy to see through his BS.

  20. #5920
    As usual coach smelly is wrong about almost everything.

    Look, a google search states the the world record for running a mile is 3:43. So if I were to claim that I run a mile in under 3 minutes regularly, any wager to that effect would HAVE to involve witnesses and/or video of me running a mile. Me producing written statements as evidence from people claiming to have see me run a mile in under 3 minutes would carry no weight and have no meaning.

    That is exactly what MDawg wants to use as evidence, statements from casino personnel, his host, which by the way are not any kind of legal document. No penalty for falsifying and my guess is a host would be happy to provide such a phony document to a high roller and no one is disputing that is what MDawg is. Just imagine this scenario: Highroller says to Host, I need a document showing that I have been winning, otherwise my wife isn't going to let me continue to gamble. He would have that document in about 60 seconds.

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