Would you be willing to meet MDawg to verify the meaning of the check's memo at the cage?Originally Posted by AndrewG
Would you be willing to meet MDawg to verify the meaning of the check's memo at the cage?Originally Posted by AndrewG
This "let the record show..." statement by Wizard has little meaning. Last year after Wizard did the interview with Rob Singer (that Singer flubbed badly), Wizard announced "Rob Singer sent me these pictures of his RV" and posted the pictures. That was equally non committal by Wizard. And those pictures were easily and quickly thoroghly debunked. Here we are not even getting to see the image sent. Wizard is just saying "let the record show Mdawg sent this".
But this does go to this constant behind the scene attempt by Mdawg to manipulate and influence Wizard.
A couple posts above MrV asked "what is in it for wiz?" I think sometimes Mike just gets tired of being hounded in private by these guys and just gives in. I think he did it back when Mike admits Norm was hounding him many times a day with PM's and emails. I think he did the same thing with me recently when Mdawg was hounding him to restrict me from the thread (something that has never been done at WoV). I think Mike just gets worn out by these guys and their hounding him privately.
Someone should ask Mike how often Mdawg contacts him privately, demanding suspensions, or restrictions, or this or that, or wanting Mike to say this or that on his behalf?
It all comes back to one thing. If these claims and this Mdawg "story" were true or even close to being true, there would be no need for all this attempted behind the scenes manipulation and these tantrums that people aren't believing it.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Why must there be a need for those things? Isn't his preference enough to post whatever he wants?Originally Posted by kewlJ
Nobody needs to read your ridiculous theories and concoctions, do you need to post them?
"One dealer and pit boss the other day were saying though, how "rare" of a player I am, that I am both winning currently and a lifetime winner. But then that's the Adventures of MDawg. What kind of an adventure would it be if I were losing?"
Above is a rather interesting quote from Mdawg (page 538 of the Mdawg thread, time stamped 5/20 8:24am for coach belly who wants to know where everything came from). Take note of "What kind of adventure would it be if I were losing". That tells you everything you need to know about this who ordeal. It is about creating the illusion of winning.
Now here is a quote from 5/20 11:07am. "Every time I win, I shove the large denominations of the winner's chips into the zippered pouch of the winner's envelope and put it in a hotel safety deposit box, and cash out the under 100 sums, in ones and fives, to use as tips."
At this point, I don't think anyone is dsputing Mdawg is a big player. I will admit, I didn't think so earlier and have been proven wrong. The dispute is about all the winning and rarely any losing. So on winning days he shoves the chips in a bag rather than cashing out. And then presto...today he cashed out all those chips, received a check for 100 grand which he sent an image of to Wizard to again create the illusion of a massive win. The manipulation never ends.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Just fuck you coach belly. I am just tired of your trolling. The forum owner here labled you a troll and that you argue for the sake of arguing. He said that you don't even believe most of what you argue. I don't think there is any question of that, so just fuck off.Originally Posted by coach bellyWhy must there be a need for those things? Isn't his preference enough to post whatever he wants?Originally Posted by kewlJ
Nobody needs to read your ridiculous theories and concoctions, do you need to post them?
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
YesOriginally Posted by coach bellyWould you be willing to meet MDawg to verify the meaning of the check's memo at the cage?Originally Posted by AndrewG
Originally Posted by coach bellyWould you be willing to meet MDawg to verify the meaning of the check's memo at the cage?Originally Posted by AndrewG
Pardon my table games naivete, but how could the cage possibly know whether someone won or lost on a particular day?
I don't know much of anything about table games, but it seems as if the cage would have to go through every video of every table game to ascertain if cash was used to buy in at any given table. Then the cage would have to verify that no stashed chips (used frequently by blackjack and poker players) from previous visits were inserted into the equation. If this is incorrect, please lay it out for me.
And, since I have gotten casino checks in the past not quite the size of MDawg's but in the ballpark, I actually have some experience with requesting notations. And my experiences have been very interesting. Before relating my experiences, which might indeed be different from MDawg's but are certainly valid examples, I'll let coach offer some of his theories to see if he gets anything correct.
He can't cash out chips without paying his markers off first.Originally Posted by kewlJ
The transactions at the table are entered into a computer by the pit personnel,Originally Posted by redietz
and the agents in the cage have access to that information.
Markers, cash, chips....everything is noted by the table supervisors,
they are constantly reconciling the rack with the drops and the chips on the felt.
Who cares what the forum owner thinks?Originally Posted by kewlJ
That would be correct if except for what about cash? The guy shows up with a bundle of cash, which he even shows us. You don't know when he buys in for cash, or when he buys in for cash after losing a marker, so at this point he is just moving money, chips, markers around, manipulating different things to appear as he wants things to appear.Originally Posted by coach bellyHe can't cash out chips without paying his markers off first.Originally Posted by kewlJ
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Who doesn't know? The table games supervisors enter and track all that.Originally Posted by kewlJ
Don't they enter your buy-ins where you play?
Exactly. So lets say he wins 8100 on a particular day. Mdawg himself said he stuffs 8000 in chips in a bag. You do that for a month on winning days (nothing to stuff on losing days that he makes no mention of) and all of the sudden he has a bag stuffed with 100k in chips. Yes the casino knows he hasn't cashed out those chips yet. So what? So today he cashes out those chips and receives a check. What kind of notation will that check have? Winnings right?Originally Posted by coach bellyThe transactions at the table are entered into a computer by the pit personnel,Originally Posted by redietz
and the agents in the cage have access to that information.
Markers, cash, chips....everything is noted by the table supervisors,
they are constantly reconciling the rack with the drops and the chips on the felt.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Originally Posted by coach bellyWho doesn't know? The table games supervisors enter and track all that.Originally Posted by kewlJ
Don't they enter your buy-ins where you play?
So coach, you're saying that you have to present identification and get tracked every time you buy in for cash at every table game? Wow, I did not know that, but then I have little table games experience.
I guess we sports bettors are fortunate then, since we avoid that kind of tracking. Unless we volunteer our wagers to be on our players' cards, they aren't on our players' cards.
Originally Posted by redietzOriginally Posted by coach bellyWho doesn't know? The table games supervisors enter and track all that.Originally Posted by kewlJ
Don't they enter your buy-ins where you play?
So coach, you're saying that you have to present identification and get tracked every time you buy in for cash at every table game? Wow, I did not know that, but then I have little table games experience.
Of course not. If you did, I would have had no blackjack career.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Meanwhile, I wait with bated breath for coach's theories on what happened to me when I requested notations on my checks at various properties.
See, this is a real interesting question, because when I collected certain sports bets from the sportsbook with chips/cheques (to use the proper terminology), and then took those to the cage and requested paper checks, the cage had no idea whatsoever whether I won or lost that day, that week, or that year.
So my requests for notations should be interesting, eh?
Originally Posted by kewlJOriginally Posted by redietzOriginally Posted by coach belly
So coach, you're saying that you have to present identification and get tracked every time you buy in for cash at every table game? Wow, I did not know that, but then I have little table games experience.
Of course not. If you did, I would have had no blackjack career.
LOL. I think we have coach in a gotcha moment. Be patient. Another gotcha moment is on the way.
The casino tracks his buy-ins at the table, and what chips he has on the table while playing.Originally Posted by kewlJ
When he leaves that table, they know and record how much he has won or lost.
I'm sure it's the same with your play, they may not know your name,
but they know if you won or lost and how much.
MDawg is staying at the property, they are following his adventures even more closely than you are.
We are talking about a specific player...MDawg...not me.Originally Posted by redietz
MDawg is known to the casino...he's staying there and playing HL Bac every day for weeks at a time.
He's not hiding his identity and cannot hide his action from his hosts.
I don't believe he was required to show ID for markers he drew
in the Wizard's presence, and the Wizard confirmed that was true.
Last edited by coach belly; 05-23-2021 at 03:12 PM.
I could perhaps see the cashier scrutinizing the transaction / getting a mgr. involved if someone cashed in $100K in chips, but what if the amount was less than $10K, would that trigger any scrutiny?
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