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  1. #7161
    Ok, coach smelly, We are going to back up a minute here. Remember me saying Mdawg mentioned an $80K win just after posting about his $68k loss? You responded that I made that up.

    Page 533, time stamp 5/18 10;31 am:

    Quote from Mdawg: Seriously, I mean if you give me a Baccarat shoe like the one I recently won eighty grand on, I don't even need an edge.

    I'll wait for your apology.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  2. #7162
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I wait with bated breath for coach's theories on what happened to me when I requested notations on my checks at various properties.
    I don't what you are talking about,
    I'm not aware that you requested any checks let alone what notations you requested.

    Start an adventures thread and be as specific as MDawg, then I'll be happy to theorize.

  3. #7163
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I'll wait for your apology.
    He wrote that he won 80K on the shoe, not for the day, you dumb fucktard.

    All of his daily results are posted, there is no 80K win listed for any day,
    but you lied and wrote that he did...

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Since then he has posted about a $66k losing day and mentioned a big $80k winning day.

  4. #7164
    So here is the thing. I noted a few days ago that Mdawg has made a curious statement that he felt like a huge 100k win was on the horizon. And no I am not going to spend an hour searching right now. BUT presto, today, he sends Wizard an image of a check for 100k with the notation 'winnings'.

    Look, bottom line: I am not the smartest guy in the world. I never claimed to be and think that is probably pretty apparent. I don't even have good "gaydar" as I think most guys are gay.

    But I do have a strong bullshit detector and especially about claims about the casinos. I have made a living from casino play for 18 year, 12 in Vegas. I know bullshit involving casino claims when I read or hear it, just as many other proffessional players do. And this guy, Mdawg's claims are bullshit, as far as all the winning. Almost every day, of months long trips. 12 consecutive winning trips dating back to 2018, when he started posting. And his own words "a lifetime winner".

    He may very well be the big player he claims, winning and losing (more overall losing) and he may get comped what he says because he is a longterm losing player, but his story as he continues to try to sell it and manipulate everything is just bullshit.

    But don't take my word for it. Here is his: "What kind of an adventure would it be if I were losing?"
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  5. #7165
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I do have a strong bullshit detector and escpecially about claims about the casinos.
    Your bullshit detector relies on your own lies, fabrications,
    and dishonest misinterpretations for information.

    You are a proven and admitted liar, you post more lies
    every single day, and nothing you write should be believed.

  6. #7166
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I do have a strong bullshit detector and escpecially about claims about the casinos.
    Your bullshit detector relies on your own lies, fabrications,
    and dishonest misinterpretations for information.

    You are a proven and admitted liar, you post more lies
    every single day, and nothing you write should be believed.
    The freaking owner of this forum has called you out as a troll, someone just playing games. So just fuck off troll.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  7. #7167
    That is the problem with the whole MDog story. He has not fucked up by introducing an undeniable smoking gun yet. His squeegee moment will come. Just a matter of time.

  8. #7168
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I wait with bated breath for coach's theories on what happened to me when I requested notations on my checks at various properties.
    I don't what you are talking about,
    I'm not aware that you requested any checks let alone what notations you requested.

    Start an adventures thread and be as specific as MDawg, then I'll be happy to theorize.


    Occasionally, coach gets his knickers in a twist regarding things he knows nothing about. And there are many things he knows nothing about.

    Anyway, I can state clearly that when I have requested notations on checks from the cage and sportsbooks, with the exception of my last go round, I have been able to get a notation whenever I wanted it. The caveat was I asked people who were on good terms with me. The amounts were from 10K up to 40K. The cage or sports book is basically doing me a bookkeeping favor. And they had no blessed idea if I had won or lost that day or that trip or that year.

    "Sports book winnings" or "Casino winnings" are just catchall notations.

    Coach belly's implied argument that a notation on a check is some kind of "proof of winnings" for any given time period is silly. Maybe he actually believes that; who knows?

    Now last time I requested a check with a notation, I was turned down, which surprised me. It's pretty clear we don't like each other at all and are in an adversarial situation, but I thought she'd do it out of common courtesy, but she shot me down because she said the amount wasn't worth her effort. I don't recall exactly the amount. It was a partial chunk of the SF to win the NFC wager from two years ago. Maybe 10K. Maybe a little less or more. Anyway, Singer had claimed on here that I was making it up, so I decided I wanted a check with the notation "NFC Title Winnings" on it. She refused because the amount was so small, and she made me take cash. I was surprised for two reasons -- the same property had, in the past, written me paper checks for similar amounts when requested, and they had notated them however I wanted.

    But ownerships change, and I think she knew me, so she was less than polite. Oh well. The manager under her did copy the ticket and sign it as I requested so I could post it for Singer. I never bothered.

    But every other time, people have notated whatever I requested on checks without having any idea whether I had won, lost, or danced naked in the sport book.

  9. #7169
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    That is the problem with the whole MDog story. He has not fucked up by introducing an undeniable smoking gun yet. His squeegee moment will come. Just a matter of time.
    You just can't move on from that squeegee can you?

    It is true Mdawg hasn't had that one huge fuckup moment, but there are lots of littler ones. Enough that any reasonable person without an egenda, like coach smelly, says "yeah this is BS".

    But you are right, given enough rope these guys always hang themselves. It will come.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  10. #7170
    Quick note to MDawg, I cleaned up my inbox, so there is some room if you want to PM. It is getting jammed up these days, so my apologies. Your last message didn't make it through.

  11. #7171
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Coach belly's implied argument that a notation on a check
    is some kind of "proof of winnings" for any given time period is silly.
    I neither made nor implied any argument about notations on casino cage checks.

    But I'll wager on the following...

    It is IMPOSSIBLE for a person to receive a CHECK from a casino for cash put into action.

    That would be straight money laundering.

  12. #7172
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Coach belly's implied argument that a notation on a check
    is some kind of "proof of winnings" for any given time period is silly.
    I neither made nor implied any argument about notations on casino cage checks.

    But I'll wager on the following...

    It is IMPOSSIBLE for a person to receive a CHECK from a casino for cash put into action.

    That would be straight money laundering.
    So a person playing roulette lets say, buys in for 10k, loses, buys in for another 10k, wins, cashes out exactly even, 20k. Takes those chips to the cage and asks for a check. He is cashing in his chips that he played with and asking for a check. That is not a problem as far as I know.

    By the way the money laundering has occured either way, whether he is paid by check or cash. The money laundering occured when he bought in at which point he has "laundered" the money he initially had.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  13. #7173
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So a person playing roulette lets say, buys in for 10k, loses, buys in for another 10k, wins, cashes out exactly even, 20k. Takes those chips to the cage and asks for a check. He is cashing in his chips that he played with and asking for a check. That is not a problem as far as I know.
    Not happening. You wanna bet?

  14. #7174
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So a person playing roulette lets say, buys in for 10k, loses, buys in for another 10k, wins, cashes out exactly even, 20k. Takes those chips to the cage and asks for a check. He is cashing in his chips that he played with and asking for a check. That is not a problem as far as I know.
    Not happening. You wanna bet?
    No I don't want to bet, because I can't say I know for sure. I think I have requested a check twice and they were machine payouts.

    But it seems to me it is just a currency exchange. You are exchanging currency (cash) for casino currency (chips) in order to play and then exchanging back after play is completed and I don't see why you wouldn't be able to request a check if you wanted just the same as you can request a check for a machine payout. Last year I requested a check for a pretty small payout ($8000), just because i was heading out on our boat for a couple days and didn't want the cash sitting in the car in the parking lot.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  15. #7175
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So a person playing roulette lets say, buys in for 10k, loses, buys in for another 10k, wins, cashes out exactly even, 20k. Takes those chips to the cage and asks for a check. He is cashing in his chips that he played with and asking for a check. That is not a problem as far as I know.
    Not happening. You wanna bet?
    So, you are telling me that when Charles Barkley, or Michael Jorden are playing blackjack for $50,000 a hand as it has been reported and they have a winning night, maybe cahing out at $500k or a million dollars, they are paid in cash?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  16. #7176
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    you are telling me that when Charles Barkley, or Michael Jorden are playing blackjack for $50,000 a hand as it has been reported and they have a winning night, maybe cahing out at $500k or a million dollars, they are paid in cash?
    What are you thinking, that these guys buy in with suitcases full of cash?

    They pull markers, they pay their markers, and if they win then they can receive a check.

    But they can't buy in for 500K in cash, break even and convert that cash to a check.

    Are you sure that you know anything about how casinos work?

    Can you prove that you do, because right now it sounds like you're clueless.

  17. #7177
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    you are telling me that when Charles Barkley, or Michael Jorden are playing blackjack for $50,000 a hand as it has been reported and they have a winning night, maybe cahing out at $500k or a million dollars, they are paid in cash?
    What are you thinking, that these guys buy in with suitcases full of cash?

    They pull markers, they pay their markers, and if they win then they can receive a check.
    So they can receive a check, contrary to what you just satated.

    Now how about this one: A guy buys in for 10 grand cash playing blackjack. Pretty common, most of us have seen that. He is playing not all that much more than I do. Sits there for a few hours and runs that up to 50k. 5 times buyin, always a good run. He cashes out. So you are telling me he can't request a check and has to walk around carrying (5) 10k bricks of cash on him? Sounds like the casino could be held responsible for the robbery he is likely to endure.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  18. #7178
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You are exchanging currency (cash) for casino currency (chips) in order to play and then exchanging back after play is completed and I don't see why you wouldn't be able to request a check
    That's money laundering.

    You are concealing the origin of the cash, and exchanging it
    so that it appears to come from a legitimate source.

  19. #7179
    According to Nevada Gaming regulations if they won half of a million they're entitled to cash and the casinos must have cash available equal to every chip.

  20. #7180
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    That's money laundering.

    You are concealing the origin of the cash, and exchanging it
    so that it appears to come from a legitimate source.
    You do that every time you make any transaction. The second you exchange money for chips (or anything else) it is money laundering.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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