The WoV Thread

[kewlJ]

Let's talk about Axelwolf's gay obsession. Today several gay comments / jokes directed at 3 different member. His defense will be that it is all in fun and 2 of the 'targets' are friends.

It has been my experience that whenever someone is THIS obsessed with this topic, there is good reason for it. This is a very typical defense /denial technique.

[LarryS]

surrender your backbone and self respect instead.....its a great trade off for some

Sounds like you're up to your old tricks again.

Just name names and be done with it.

Let the games begin.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...os/chameleons/

this is the picture of the dude that castigated me for calling BBB.....beached whale. A nice way to keep the ledger in his favor at wov. But then just weeks later repeatedly refereed to HOTBLONDE.....as .....FAT BLONDE.

it seems HotBlonde has little pull at wov like BBB does.

Its not just knowing how to walk on eggshells, its being able to kneel on the eggshells and spread the ass cheeks and get up inside the ass. An act some are willing to perform in exchanged for survival credits.

It seems Nathan and Glen dont have alot of survival credits. Either gained through financial favors or ass kissing.

Mr V, you have identified a way to gain survival credits, and you perform the act masterfully. Even if you make yourself into a hypocrite as with HotBlonde/ Fat Blonde. vs Beached whale. Even if you are viewed as a chameleon. You attain your goal. The goal to garner favor with authority on a "for profit" message board .

To each his own. Thats who you are. Thats how you want to portray yourself. I would be the last person to tell you not to do it. I just comment on it as I sip my Dr Browns Celray soda or sip my U-Bet chocolate milk. Your actions are not upsetting....they are interesting. An example of just one aspect of the human condition. People want to be accepted, and they will go through great lengths and sacrifice honor, credibility, even to be accepted by people that are basically strangers in the grand scheme of things.

[LarryS]

Let's talk about Axelwolf's gay obsession. Today several gay comments / jokes directed at 3 different member. His defense will be that it is all in fun and 2 of the 'targets' are friends.

It has been my experience that whenever someone is THIS obsessed with this topic, there is good reason for it. This is a very typical defense /denial technique.

whats the surprise. He along with you on GF had an obsession for the term >ball washer>. I identified him back then as one of the 4 in the gay contingent ay GF. The above is nothing new to me. He continues to out himself. So what.

[Bill Yung]

An example of just one aspect of the human condition. People want to be accepted, and they will go through great lengths and sacrifice honor, credibility, even to be accepted by people that are basically strangers in the grand scheme of things.

The Wizard's board was a lot better when he used to gleefully (mistakenly) claim slot machines that pay 500%, put up and take down queer pictures and videos of himself, and at least ten people instantly leaped out of the woodwork to his defence to demand another banning whenever anyone expressed any real laughter from the real world. It looks like Doc has had dementia or something, for some time now; and the Grinder, like the Wizard, never had a brain.

[mickeycrimm]

Let's talk about Axelwolf's gay obsession. Today several gay comments / jokes directed at 3 different member. His defense will be that it is all in fun and 2 of the 'targets' are friends.

It has been my experience that whenever someone is THIS obsessed with this topic, there is good reason for it. This is a very typical defense /denial technique.

whats the surprise. He along with you on GF had an obsession for the term >ball washer>. I identified him back then as one of the 4 in the gay contingent ay GF. The above is nothing new to me. He continues to out himself. So what.

You didn't "identify" a gay contingent. You just made up some scurrilous bullshit.

[MisterV]

Yes LarryS., it is true I called a forum member "Fat Blonde," and I got suspended for it.

I enjoy having the ability to post at WoV, and I've learned to try to conform to their rules.

You seem to believe that in doing so I am somehow selling myself short; I don't view it that way.

I can and do say what I care to over there, I just have to craft the posts so as to avoid violating rules: nothing wrong with that.

Nor do I agree that I try to curry favor of the wiz or the mods.

The fact is you and I disagree as to the wiz: you think he's unfair, arbitrary, capricious and dictatorial, while I do not share those views.

He ain't perfect, but then again what is?

Oh, as for the implication that I am "able to kneel on the eggshells and spread the ass cheeks and get up inside the ass:" uh, no thanks, not my cuppa joe, but thanks for fantasizing about me in your own, inimitable fashion.

[LarryS]

Julie McCoy

what you do and the why you do it, can be sorted out for a price with a psychiatrist. However its rather plain to see...and I am saving you quite a sum. A "Thank You" would be in order.

So you got suspended for using the words Fat Blonde......so what. It doesnt address the hypocrisy of calling me out for using "beached whale" as if your mocking of a obese woman was somehow righteous compared to mine.

I know you have a higher view of the wiz. He is a jackal, unmanly, and dishonest for waving a tin cup while negotiating a multi million dollar deal according to you. He didnt offer refunds till he was asked. The height of dishonesty.

And I think he is all of the above plus I think he is narcissistic, socially backward, creepy, misogynistic ,uneven with his punishment depending on his "moods", punitive in wanting to inflict "shame" according to his own words. and a very poor manager regarding customer service. Plus he could be bought....in that he puts his wizard certificate on overseas gambling sites when he has zero clue if they are really being run honestly. He has no oversight ability of the programs 24/7



Still you are willing to give your business to an unmanly dishonest jackal.(your words from GG)

https://www.google.com/search?q=eddi...gWw5Hf2J3szbM:

[MisterV]

Like I said, he ain't perfect.

Nor is his board (oops, I mean the board he sold for a couple millon bucks).

But that's OK; you know why?

Because there are damned few gambling boards out there that appeal to me.

The mix of gambling, Las Vegas, and unusual human specimens is enough to keep me checking in.

I'm going to ask you a question, and I expect an honest answer: why do you still lurk there?

Are you looking for a "Gotcha!" or do you, like me, find it reasonably interesting, at least at times?

[Prozema]

Wait... Shack sold that board for several million? Where did you get the sale price? That sounds really high to me.

[LarryS]

I DONT LURK THERE.

Although I do go there when there is someone directing me via a reference on a thread here.

So mickey recently mentioned that BBB was fucking with nathan. So I went over to take a look and find it

Or someone else mentioned the mission/WoN thread so I took a look.

or someone mentions that someone was banned so...I take a look based on whats said over here so at least if I choose to comment , I can answer that person.

The same at GF......Freddy would often reference something and I would take a look. But rarely if ever did I initiate a comment on active wov goings on since I DONT lurk there. But I do go there to seek more info on what other people bring up on this thread.....and what other people brought up on GF.

usually monet and MC bring up new stuff from wov. But they rarely provide links, so I go there and have to sometimes sort through some threads in order to find what they are talking about. But thats so if i choose to comment its based on first hand reading and not second hand info. I never posted that I lurk over there. I do my best to just find what is referenced here and then exit quickly from there.

if they provided links....I would spend even less time there.

I let others like freddy, MC, and monet come up with the "gotchas".

why would anyone give their time and effort to what you call a dishonest unmanly jackal. So no. I dont spend any more time over there than I need to. My spine intact

[MisterV]

I DONT LURK THERE.

Sure you do.

[kewlJ]

Well, I am not afraid to admit that I read WoV, nearly everyday for at least a couple minutes. It is one of 4 sites that I visit regularly, related to gambling / AP. You never know when there might be mention of something worth a few bucks that I didn't know. Although at WoV, boy I can't remember the last time.

At the 2 blackjack sites I visit regularly, I am still always looking to learn a little from other players as I have done for a decade. That too now occurs pretty infrequently, but every once in a while someone shares something or some experience, and I say, "wow, that's a good idea". I am of the philosophy that you learn through experience. But it doesn't always have to be your own experiences. You can learn from other players experiences (often mistakes).

And of course, I use the PM feature on the 2 of those 4 sites that I am allowed to participate at, to network and just keep in touch with a few people.

Besides, looking for tidbits of info that might be beneficial, which as I said are far and few between these days, there were / are some members at WoV that I like and respect. But mostly I just continue to grow more and more disappointed in the site as time goes on, as well as Mike and some members that I used to think more of. And yes, I confess, I have a bit of that "likes to look at a trainwreck" in me, and that is pretty close to how I view WoV, so there's that.

[RS__]

Anything interesting going on or are the last few pages just the same wall-of-text nonsense that’s been going on since forever?

[Bill Yung]

Wait... Shack sold that board for several million? Where did you get the sale price? That sounds really high to me.

He asked for $10 million, and settled for around $2.35 million.

http://www.gambling911.com/online-ca...on-121614.html

Which translates: Grain of luck worth whole field of knowledge.

[MisterV]

By report the buyers are supposed to know what they're doing, so I assume they have a sound plan to monetize their investment.

Presumably they didn't simply pay him a lump sum, that would be foolish.

The details are unclear, but my guess is they make regular payments which over time will add up to the purchase price, contingent on him sticking around as moderator and figurehead.

Still, a great AP by the wiz.

[monet]

Here is DarkOz breaking down his rise to AP stardom and his fall from the Hollywood Biz...

I find it interesting because he didn't get involved in the AP/WoN scam but allowed his daughter to get hustled for 4K in cash. However he claims he has been living the good life APing the East Coast taking his family and friends to Disney World. I just can't understand him being so smart to evade WoN but allow his daughter to get taken. It just doesn't add up. In my opinion he isn't telling us the whole WoN story. He just wanted to make it look like WoN jacked his daughter and he was just a poor misguided fool falling for a scam. You can read this thread on WoV Thread... Gun Promoters No Place to Hide. This is his response to RS questioning him about his 2 year homeless life in New York. I find it very interesting that his friends and family got to the point of not allowing him to reside at their place. They would only allow showers and shaving in short bursts. Seems odd to me that his family and friends didn't love him enough to allow him to stay permanently until he got back on his feet. However after he gets rich, living the good life APing all is well and Disney for everyone!

Personally, I am a bad guy not to be trusted but even my worst friends or family members that I don't get along with will not be refused free room and board by me. I have had friends stay at my house and I will give up my own bed... that's just how I am. I'm not putting anyone I know personally on the street or just allowing them to shower.


Good questions

2005 - lost two bi-coastal apartments when my film company i owned went from making $250,000 a year (it was me and one employee) to almost nothing due to a change in technology (a switch from shooting film to digital. I was a specialist in the handling of motion picture film. I worked on a number of big hollywood films

2005 - 2007 moved in with my dad. He passed in november 2007

2008 - 2010 bounced around couch surfing relative to relative to friend

2010 - 2012 full on homeless sleeping on benches and subways. However those same family and friends while not allowing me to stay did allow for visits which included showers. I was able to keep up my hygiene although at a few days intervals

2012 - started AP at casinos. Began with literally nothing in January of that year. Found a room in August of 2012 in a house on the beach. House destroyed by hurricane Sandy in november of that year. Homeless in hotel from FEMA remainder

2013 - FEMA funding ends. Full on homeless again sleeping on subways February to March. April started sleeping on busses to Sands Casino. 24 hours of round trips earned me over $100 a day

By September saved up enough for apartment. Had entire bankroll stolen so slept on floors for two months lol but hell i was used to it by then. Had a roof over my head now

2014 - present - kicked my AP skills up hired other people began running and organizing one of the most feared AP outfits on the East Coast. Took my first (of 7) trips to disney world. Brought a home theater. Living the good life since then

I have always identified democrat. Dont think it made any difference to me politically my being homeless

EDIT: for those wondering why so many trips to disney besides being a disney buff it was payback to all those families and friends during the homeless years who helped me. They all had kids and one by one i took them down for a week here and a week there

EDIT EDIT: during the good years in Hollywood I had purchased option rights to a comic book series called Dark Oz - sequel to Wizard of Oz. From 2004 - 2011 the project was worming its way through Hollywood producers of Bridge to Terabithia were attached. Producers of Batman and the Transformers all involved in development. I was literally calling hollywood studio execs on Obama phones watching my minutes or emailing from library computers. I was certain my homelessness would be wonderful storytelling on entertainment tonight at the premiere

When Oz the Great and Powerful was greenlit (long competing film project) mine was toast. My hopes and dreams for Hollywood did fuel some of my refusal to get a job as i waited for the big break but it wasnt the only reason. The recession had hit and other financial factors too played a role

I think my favorite part is that he is currently running one of the most feared AP crews on the East Coast but allows WoN to scam his daughter out of 4K. Of course he doesn't mention this or the masked lunch in his timeline.

[LarryS]

I DONT LURK THERE.

Sure you do.

i can say for a fact that since I started on GF and through the time on this site I have not gone to WOV first having reason to gothere via reference by anothe rposter like freddy, KJ, MC, and more recently monet.

Proof od this is that over that period of time.....you cannot come up with a post where I posted "breaking news" from Wov.

i only expand on what an original poster writes,//giving my analysis and any additional comments based on responses on related comments of others at Wov on the topic at hand.

Unlike KJ I do not pine to go back there and have gone on record(when someone suggested amnesty for banned people) that I would not accept reinstatement.

Face, once suggested on GF that he suspected that I had been [posting on Wov under an alias, but that was laughable. I have never registered on any site over the last 25 years as anyone other than LarryS. I responded back then to Face that I would not support a poorly managed business with poor customer service by devoting my time and energy. Only a dick would do that.

Maybe when I go there to look up referenced activity at wov, it adds to "the count" and maybe it may help them gain advertisers. That is possible...but theN I was told that those banners give the ste money based on a click and sign up basis. At least thats what Axel says.

So people over there are so attached to that site, and crave the oppresive environment that they think ..."how can anyone resist this shit"....So I am not surprised by the MrV response above/

its how the munchkins think

[MisterV]

Some follow the yellow brick road, and others wander in the forest.

Either way we all reach our Final Destination.

[pepe]

Some follow the yellow brick road, and others wander in the forest.

Either way we all reach our Final Destination.

NO ITEMS FOX ONLY

[redietz]

Here is DarkOz breaking down his rise to AP stardom and his fall from the Hollywood Biz...

I find it interesting because he didn't get involved in the AP/WoN scam but allowed his daughter to get hustled for 4K in cash. However he claims he has been living the good life APing the East Coast taking his family and friends to Disney World. I just can't understand him being so smart to evade WoN but allow his daughter to get taken. It just doesn't add up. In my opinion he isn't telling us the whole WoN story. He just wanted to make it look like WoN jacked his daughter and he was just a poor misguided fool falling for a scam. You can read this thread on WoV Thread... Gun Promoters No Place to Hide. This is his response to RS questioning him about his 2 year homeless life in New York. I find it very interesting that his friends and family got to the point of not allowing him to reside at their place. They would only allow showers and shaving in short bursts. Seems odd to me that his family and friends didn't love him enough to allow him to stay permanently until he got back on his feet. However after he gets rich, living the good life APing all is well and Disney for everyone!

Personally, I am a bad guy not to be trusted but even my worst friends or family members that I don't get along with will not be refused free room and board by me. I have had friends stay at my house and I will give up my own bed... that's just how I am. I'm not putting anyone I know personally on the street or just allowing them to shower.


Good questions

2005 - lost two bi-coastal apartments when my film company i owned went from making $250,000 a year (it was me and one employee) to almost nothing due to a change in technology (a switch from shooting film to digital. I was a specialist in the handling of motion picture film. I worked on a number of big hollywood films

2005 - 2007 moved in with my dad. He passed in november 2007

2008 - 2010 bounced around couch surfing relative to relative to friend

2010 - 2012 full on homeless sleeping on benches and subways. However those same family and friends while not allowing me to stay did allow for visits which included showers. I was able to keep up my hygiene although at a few days intervals

2012 - started AP at casinos. Began with literally nothing in January of that year. Found a room in August of 2012 in a house on the beach. House destroyed by hurricane Sandy in november of that year. Homeless in hotel from FEMA remainder

2013 - FEMA funding ends. Full on homeless again sleeping on subways February to March. April started sleeping on busses to Sands Casino. 24 hours of round trips earned me over $100 a day

By September saved up enough for apartment. Had entire bankroll stolen so slept on floors for two months lol but hell i was used to it by then. Had a roof over my head now

2014 - present - kicked my AP skills up hired other people began running and organizing one of the most feared AP outfits on the East Coast. Took my first (of 7) trips to disney world. Brought a home theater. Living the good life since then

I have always identified democrat. Dont think it made any difference to me politically my being homeless

EDIT: for those wondering why so many trips to disney besides being a disney buff it was payback to all those families and friends during the homeless years who helped me. They all had kids and one by one i took them down for a week here and a week there

EDIT EDIT: during the good years in Hollywood I had purchased option rights to a comic book series called Dark Oz - sequel to Wizard of Oz. From 2004 - 2011 the project was worming its way through Hollywood producers of Bridge to Terabithia were attached. Producers of Batman and the Transformers all involved in development. I was literally calling hollywood studio execs on Obama phones watching my minutes or emailing from library computers. I was certain my homelessness would be wonderful storytelling on entertainment tonight at the premiere

When Oz the Great and Powerful was greenlit (long competing film project) mine was toast. My hopes and dreams for Hollywood did fuel some of my refusal to get a job as i waited for the big break but it wasnt the only reason. The recession had hit and other financial factors too played a role

I think my favorite part is that he is currently running one of the most feared AP crews on the East Coast but allows WoN to scam his daughter out of 4K. Of course he doesn't mention this or the masked lunch in his timeline.

Must be a lot of fear lying around with nothing to do on the East Coast.