The WoV Thread

[jbjb]

Well coach, I see you got bounced by one of the little green men over at WoV.

I guess your quoting a famous comedian who used the word "faggot" is considered hate speech, as is his use of the word "nigger."

FWIW I think you got a bum deal and should not be suspended, but then again I like to see how close to the brink I can come without going over.

Like, would they suspend me if in the body of a WoV post I said "I went to buy some kindling for a bonfire but the seller was very niggardly in his price and I would not pay his asking price just to burn a bunch of faggots."

I didn't think.....

[The Boz]

Coach is being subjected to the “OJ Simpson” syndrome. He gave them an opportunity to punish him for other stuff they believe he did, but couldn’t nail him for.

He’s not the first and won’t be the last to be subjected to Mods playing favorites.

I’m sure Coach will live.

[kewlJ]

Coach is being subjected to the “OJ Simpson” syndrome. He gave them an opportunity to punish him for other stuff they believe he did, but couldn’t nail him for.

I read that too and don't really understand it. Don't get me wrong, Coach belly should be banned from every forum that he is on. Just because all he does is troll and he contributes nothing. When forum owners/administrators go so far as to label someone nothing but a troll as both Dan Druff and Wizard have done, that should be the time to say, you are done here, do it somewhere else.

I mean despite that these forums have all become troll forums to different degrees, that was not the intended purpose of any of them. So when someone does nothing but troll and play games, get rid of them.

[Alan Mendelson]

Kewlj set a good example: Say nothing critical for a week.

[kewlJ]

Kewlj set a good example: Say nothing critical for a week.

Alan, I admit, I do some trolling, just as you and everyone else. That has become incorporated into these forums. I am not really in favor of that, but it is the way it is. Initially, I thought most of this trolling was to some degree in fun. I no longer think that.

BUT, I add content, on the topic of the forum gambling and Las vegas, by sharing some of my experiences as someone who makes a living playing blackjack, even to the extent of sharing some of what I do in more detail than I should have. And people used that to attempt to harm my career and me financially. That should be proof, this shit isn't in fun.

But Belly, adds nothing of any valuve, absolutely nothing. When it is to the point that forum owners and administrators identify him as nothing but a troll, adding nothing, isn't it time to get rid of him? Seriously Alan, isn't it past time to clean up a bit?

[MisterV]

Coach belly should be banned from every forum that he is on. Just because all he does is troll and he contributes nothing.

I disagree.

CB, like Singer, is astute enough to challenge statements he questions.

People don't like it when they're basically told they're full of shit, but in theory this should lead to a better product: who wants a bunch of yes-men who all think ,dress, and talk alike?

Sure,he's a PITA but so is socratic dialogue.

[Alan Mendelson]

I'm going to agree with MrV.

Besides that, if Coach was on "their side" he wouldn't have been nuked.

[kewlJ]

Besides that, if Coach was on "their side" he wouldn't have been nuked.

And there you see the entire problem with Alan.

From day 1, (or maybe 2) it became crystal clear to me that Alan was anti-AP, or had great disdain for players that actually win at the casinos by finding and playing with an advantage. Thus I labeled him "anti-AP" which he has always denied. Shackleford recently labeled Alan, anti-math, which is very much along the same line. Alan always denied these things, but right here with his statement about "sides", anyone can and should see that is exactly what is going on with this guy....and a few others. Alan has draw a line in the sand, us vs them, or AP vs anti-AP.

I don't have a side, Alan. I call out what is bullshit regardless. I have at many different times had some of my fellow AP, just as pissed at me as anyone else.

[Alan Mendelson]

Kewlj you do have a good imagination and a script that you stick to.

[Tasha]

How interesting that Coach Belly got nuked on the 3 year Anniversary of my permanent banning. Interesting that Wizard said he was waiting a long time to ban Coach, but was just waiting for a good reason. And said the Dave Chappelle quote was the catalyst for his permeant nuke. I personally didn't think he should have been Suspended for that Dave Chappelle quote, let alone nuked. Coach's nuke from WOV and Wizard admitting that he was waiting a long time to nuke him but was just waiting for a good reason reminds of so much of my own nuke. The Admins admitted AFTER my permanent banning that they were waiting for a long time to nuke me, but were just waiting for a good reason and my one time fed up cussing rant was the catalyst. Just like Coach Belly. Coach Belly is probably shocked by his sudden banning today, especially over a Dave Chappelle quote that isn't even all that big of a deal.

[coach belly]

Coach Belly is probably shocked by his sudden banning today

Whipped cream on a pile of bullshit suspensions I was dealt.

I wear it as a badge of honor, along side the rest of Murderer's Row in the dive bar.

[redietz]

Coach Belly is probably shocked by his sudden banning today

Whipped cream on a pile of bullshit suspensions I was dealt.

I wear it as a badge of honor, along side the rest of Murderer's Row in the dive bar.

I have to ask, since I was banned there a long time ago, what was the Dave Chappelle quote? I ask because I love Dave Chappelle.

Don't worry, coach. I acquired a fine website that you can post on sometime. Kumbaya and all that.

I can see why MrV likes Socratic dialogue as opposed to, say, scientific debate. Socratic dialogue is something you employ trying to find some crack or flaw somewhere in somebody's else's presentation, and then using that small crack to try to debunk the entire presentation. Pretty much what lawyers do and why a country run by lawyers winds up like we do. The end justifies the means, and the end isn't to arrive at reality but to win a high school debate or polling contest. The thing about scientific debate is that you have to know some science to participate. You actually have to put your knowledge on the line and run the risk of being exposed as knowing nothing about the subject. Not the purview of lawyers, who master nothing but the detail of argument constrained by an idiosyncratic time and place.

[monet]

I can see why MrV likes Socratic dialogue as opposed to, say, scientific debate. Socratic dialogue is something you employ trying to find some crack or flaw somewhere in somebody's else's presentation, and then using that small crack to try to debunk the entire presentation. Pretty much what lawyers do and why a country run by lawyers winds up like we do. The end justifies the means, and the end isn't to arrive at reality but to win a high school debate or polling contest. The thing about scientific debate is that you have to know some science to participate. You actually have to put your knowledge on the line and run the risk of being exposed as knowing nothing about the subject. Not the purview of lawyers, who master nothing but the detail of argument constrained by an idiosyncratic time and place.

Are you kidding?
Lawyering is a scam.
Both sides work together to extract as much money as they can.
Exactly like our political system.
I think its something like 97% of cases never make it to trial, a jury or a judge.
Lawyers are literally taught to Settle, Settle... Settle.
They force that shit down their clients throats all day and night long.
Anyone that knows just a little bit about our judicial system knows that it is nothing but a money machine grinding up the common man.
Everyone knows it is broken beyond repair and always has been.
Bring back hanging people in the streets.
Much more effective.
The problem is that the powers that be won't make any money hanging people compared to grinding them through the system over and over and over again.

[Tasha]

Coach Belly is probably shocked by his sudden banning today

Whipped cream on a pile of bullshit suspensions I was dealt.

I wear it as a badge of honor, along side the rest of Murderer's Row in the dive bar.

I have to ask, since I was banned there a long time ago, what was the Dave Chappelle quote? I ask because I love Dave Chappelle.

Don't worry, coach. I acquired a fine website that you can post on sometime. Kumbaya and all that.

I can see why MrV likes Socratic dialogue as opposed to, say, scientific debate. Socratic dialogue is something you employ trying to find some crack or flaw somewhere in somebody's else's presentation, and then using that small crack to try to debunk the entire presentation. Pretty much what lawyers do and why a country run by lawyers winds up like we do. The end justifies the means, and the end isn't to arrive at reality but to win a high school debate or polling contest. The thing about scientific debate is that you have to know some science to participate. You actually have to put your knowledge on the line and run the risk of being exposed as knowing nothing about the subject. Not the purview of lawyers, who master nothing but the detail of argument constrained by an idiosyncratic time and place.

Dave Chappelle quote.

"This is many years ago, 15 years ago. It was when I was doing Chappelle’s Show. I made a mistake. I didn’t even know I’d done anything wrong. I had written a sketch… that had the word… “f a g g o t” in it. So I had to go to Standards and Practices. They call me up. I don’t know why they’re calling me, but I like the lady that runs the department. She’s usually really fair and was one of my favorite people I’ve ever worked with. So she sits me down. We have a nice conversation. She tells me, “Oh, the sketches are great.” I go, “Oh, fantastic. Well, then… well, then, why am I here?” She said, “Because, David, there’s no way… that you can ever say the word… “f a g g o t” on our network.

I didn’t know I did anything wrong. I didn’t try to defend myself. I said, “All right. F it, I’ll take it out. Have a good afternoon.” And as I was leaving, it occurred to me. “Hey. Hey, Renée, quick question. It’s just a question. Seriously, I wanna know. Like, why is it that I can say the word “n i g g e r” with impunity… …but I can’t say the word “f a g g o t”?” And she said, “Because, David, you are not gay.”

[Tasha]

Coach Belly is probably shocked by his sudden banning today

Whipped cream on a pile of bullshit suspensions I was dealt.

I wear it as a badge of honor, along side the rest of Murderer's Row in the dive bar.

Will you be begging to be let back on WOV like I did for a long time?

[monet]

I don't understand why Mike has a Forum and forces everyone to leave either by force or by choice???
billyryan... RIP!
And three pages about the suspension list now... Those Fuckers are out of their minds over there lol.
At least MDawg is still welcome.

[redietz]

Whipped cream on a pile of bullshit suspensions I was dealt.

I wear it as a badge of honor, along side the rest of Murderer's Row in the dive bar.

I have to ask, since I was banned there a long time ago, what was the Dave Chappelle quote? I ask because I love Dave Chappelle.

Don't worry, coach. I acquired a fine website that you can post on sometime. Kumbaya and all that.

I can see why MrV likes Socratic dialogue as opposed to, say, scientific debate. Socratic dialogue is something you employ trying to find some crack or flaw somewhere in somebody's else's presentation, and then using that small crack to try to debunk the entire presentation. Pretty much what lawyers do and why a country run by lawyers winds up like we do. The end justifies the means, and the end isn't to arrive at reality but to win a high school debate or polling contest. The thing about scientific debate is that you have to know some science to participate. You actually have to put your knowledge on the line and run the risk of being exposed as knowing nothing about the subject. Not the purview of lawyers, who master nothing but the detail of argument constrained by an idiosyncratic time and place.

Dave Chappelle quote.

"This is many years ago, 15 years ago. It was when I was doing Chappelle’s Show. I made a mistake. I didn’t even know I’d done anything wrong. I had written a sketch… that had the word… “f a g g o t” in it. So I had to go to Standards and Practices. They call me up. I don’t know why they’re calling me, but I like the lady that runs the department. She’s usually really fair and was one of my favorite people I’ve ever worked with. So she sits me down. We have a nice conversation. She tells me, “Oh, the sketches are great.” I go, “Oh, fantastic. Well, then… well, then, why am I here?” She said, “Because, David, there’s no way… that you can ever say the word… “f a g g o t” on our network.

I didn’t know I did anything wrong. I didn’t try to defend myself. I said, “All right. F it, I’ll take it out. Have a good afternoon.” And as I was leaving, it occurred to me. “Hey. Hey, Renée, quick question. It’s just a question. Seriously, I wanna know. Like, why is it that I can say the word “n i g g e r” with impunity… …but I can’t say the word “f a g g o t”?” And she said, “Because, David, you are not gay.”

Well, everyone can take comfort in the fact that, as Bill Maher pointed out recently, if trends continue, everyone will be gay or a letter by 2050. Then we can all say fa g g o t with impunity. Something to look forward to.

[Tasha]

Wow. WOV sure is having the best time ever now. Coach Belly nuked and Billryan resigning. Both the same day.

[MisterV]

Wow. WOV sure is having the best time ever now. Coach Belly nuked and Billryan resigning. Both the same day.

They're dropping like flies.

Maybe if you ask nicely they'll let you rejoin.

Think how wonderful, how joyous that would be: the culmination of two years hopes and dreams.

[tableplay]

I don't understand why Mike has a Forum and forces everyone to leave either by force or by choice???

It's because Mike couldn't kick anyone off the forum if he didn't have a forum.