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  1. #9121
    One has to admit this photo sums up Mike in multiple ways. Maybe he’s getting ready for Burning Man, what was his name again?

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  2. #9122
    I was just looking back at some PM's from Mike. In the final PM's before Mike banned me the first time he directed me to Gamblingforums, where he said there was already a long running thread attacking him, that I might enjoy. And his final thought to me at that time was:

    "Finally, you go right ahead and say whatever you wish about me. I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."

    You might want to read that bolded part again....HE DIRECTED ME TO GAMBLINGFORUMS advising of a thread attacking him, and literally invited me to do the same.
    And now this weird demand that I apologize for something said there. I guess it DID make a difference. What an idiot! And yeah Boz, that ponytail completes the look....of an idiot.

    I really don't care. I decided a year ago, after several suspensions for challenging Mdawgs BS, that I would never again try to contribute positively to WoV. And I haven't. I get suspended, I return and almost immediately still say what is on my mind and get suspended again.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  3. #9123
    Rekfast is convinced that the Martingale will work on VP. But naturally, instead of going and getting his life savings and running to the nearest casino, he gets online and tries to convince everyone else.

    To Rekfast....just go win the money and stop trying to "help" others!

  4. #9124
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    [I]"Finally, you go right ahead and say whatever you wish about me. I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."
    You misunderstood.

    In inviting you to post flames against him there he's making it clear you'll be banned: " I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."

    Think about it; if some guy you know says bad things about you in public would you invite him to Sunday dinner?

    I suspect you caught his drift but just let your emotions get carried away, and you lost.
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #9125
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    [I]"Finally, you go right ahead and say whatever you wish about me. I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."
    You misunderstood.

    In inviting you to post flames against him there he's making it clear you'll be banned: " I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."

    Think about it; if some guy you know says bad things about you in public would you invite him to Sunday dinner?

    I suspect you caught his drift but just let your emotions get carried away, and you lost.
    MrV, should Mike invite me to his house for Sunday dinner and I accepted, I would be on my best behavior as I would as a guest in anyone's home. But it is complete bullshit that WoV is Mike's home and should be treated as such. WoV is a gambling forum. And I have every right to call out complete BS that I feel is harmful to other members, as I have done with Mdawg and Singer (here). I also have a right to express my opinion that Shackleford protecting Mdawg and suspending anyone that Mdawg cries to him about, makes Shackleford complicit in these claims that are BS and can harm others.

    Now since I am addressing this, I want to go back a few posts and address Tasha. I don't really care what he/she is tired of. I have been tired of him/her for quite a while. But I did take interest in the term "feud". I don't consider that I am feuding with Mdawg. I just don't like his misleading claims that defy math and the way Las Vegas works. There are several members at WoV that have stated they have tried to emulate his play and surely even more that have not stated so publicly.

    His play as he describes it is not winning play, not +EV, although it is possible if he is getting some kind of major concessions like a rebate, it could approach +EV. BUT that wouldn't come close to explaining the winning of 95% of his sessions. So far he explains it with "betting into streaks". THAT is complete voodoo nonsense. And for Wizard to allow and protect him, is the same as Wizard himself stating that very nonsense.

    Recently here, we have seen a number of people challenge me and my claims. Some long-time "enemies" like Singer and coach belly. Some newer people showing up like Seedvalue. And even accountinquestion who seems to have flipped against me recently. The problem is that most of these people, their real issue isn't my blackjack play or claims. It is much more of a personal nature. That becomes obvious very quickly.

    But anyone that wants to question or challenge anything I do or have said, I will gladly indulge and try to explain as much as I can without harming myself. I did this with Blackhole a year ago. And am happy to do so again, if anyone has serious questions about what I do or claim. But I don't really see a lot of serious, legit questions. I just see personal attacks.

    So based on the word "feud" that Tasha used and I don't believe is my intent, today at GF, I challenged Mdawg, to a respectful, no name calling discussion of his claims based on the math and how Las Vegas works, instead of him just running and crying to Wizard anytime anyone (not just me) raises a question he can't answer.

    His response? well you can read for yourself, but it was just more trolling and name calling and quotes taken out of context and all that trolling stuff. I mean if he really is who he says, and I am not talking about his name or if he is a lawyer, or wealthy or any of that, I am talking about his gambling claims, and if he is doing what he claims, why not take the opportunity to explain to people that have doubts? Answer of course is because there is no real explanation. So any time anyone raises a legitimate concern or question, he cries to Wizard, and runs to another forum where he name calls and lies about that person.

    So I don't know about a "feud", but given the chance to explain and answer any concerns, questions and challenges, he opts for anything but that.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  6. #9126
    Oh and as for Rekfast at WoV, I still think it is Singer. I know there are many (losing) player that have embraced that martingale / progressive wagering as a winning system, so that alone doesn't scream Singer, but the timing and the way he writes, and when I mentioned Singer, he had nothing but praise for him, that all leads me to believe it is Singer filling his need.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  7. #9127
    Now here is a question for everyone. What if I or anyone else that has presented themselves as a winning player for some period of time, were to suddenly announce that we had made all that up and were lying? My guess is they would no longer be welcome at WoV. What does everyone else think?

    So last October after several years of his BS claims and 7 months into a trip in which he claimed wins almost every day, including 50 of 52 days, wins for the 7 months that totaled more than five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000), Mdawg posted this single line at the bottom of a long post: "additionally, Wizard and I went over my play for the last 7 months and I am about even". Seven months and $500 thousand dollars of winning and BS claims, disappeared in one sentence. And you know what Wizards response was? he praised Mdawg for his honesty.

    THAT right there should tell anyone whether Mr. Ponytail is now part of this long running Mdawg scam.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 06-22-2022 at 01:45 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  8. #9128
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Recently here, we have seen a number of people challenge me and my claims. Some long-time "enemies" like Singer and coach belly.
    The only claims of yours that I challenge are the lies that you write about other forum members.

    Just like Seedvalue, I'm your enemy because you posted lies about me, and continued posting the same lies even after apologizing.

  9. #9129
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    [I]"Finally, you go right ahead and say whatever you wish about me. I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."
    You misunderstood.

    In inviting you to post flames against him there he's making it clear you'll be banned: " I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."

    Think about it; if some guy you know says bad things about you in public would you invite him to Sunday dinner?

    I suspect you caught his drift but just let your emotions get carried away, and you lost.
    MrV, should Mike invite me to his house for Sunday dinner and I accepted, I would be on my best behavior as I would as a guest in anyone's home. But it is complete bullshit that WoV is Mike's home and should be treated as such. WoV is a gambling forum. And I have every right to call out complete BS that I feel is harmful to other members, as I have done with Mdawg and Singer (here). I also have a right to express my opinion that Shackleford protecting Mdawg and suspending anyone that Mdawg cries to him about, makes Shackleford complicit in these claims that are BS and can harm others.

    Now since I am addressing this, I want to go back a few posts and address Tasha. I don't really care what he/she is tired of. I have been tired of him/her for quite a while. But I did take interest in the term "feud". I don't consider that I am feuding with Mdawg. I just don't like his misleading claims that defy math and the way Las Vegas works. There are several members at WoV that have stated they have tried to emulate his play and surely even more that have not stated so publicly.

    His play as he describes it is not winning play, not +EV, although it is possible if he is getting some kind of major concessions like a rebate, it could approach +EV. BUT that wouldn't come close to explaining the winning of 95% of his sessions. So far he explains it with "betting into streaks". THAT is complete voodoo nonsense. And for Wizard to allow and protect him, is the same as Wizard himself stating that very nonsense.

    Recently here, we have seen a number of people challenge me and my claims. Some long-time "enemies" like Singer and coach belly. Some newer people showing up like Seedvalue. And even accountinquestion who seems to have flipped against me recently. The problem is that most of these people, their real issue isn't my blackjack play or claims. It is much more of a personal nature. That becomes obvious very quickly.

    But anyone that wants to question or challenge anything I do or have said, I will gladly indulge and try to explain as much as I can without harming myself. I did this with Blackhole a year ago. And am happy to do so again, if anyone has serious questions about what I do or claim. But I don't really see a lot of serious, legit questions. I just see personal attacks.

    So based on the word "feud" that Tasha used and I don't believe is my intent, today at GF, I challenged Mdawg, to a respectful, no name calling discussion of his claims based on the math and how Las Vegas works, instead of him just running and crying to Wizard anytime anyone (not just me) raises a question he can't answer.

    His response? well you can read for yourself, but it was just more trolling and name calling and quotes taken out of context and all that trolling stuff. I mean if he really is who he says, and I am not talking about his name or if he is a lawyer, or wealthy or any of that, I am talking about his gambling claims, and if he is doing what he claims, why not take the opportunity to explain to people that have doubts? Answer of course is because there is no real explanation. So any time anyone raises a legitimate concern or question, he cries to Wizard, and runs to another forum where he name calls and lies about that person.

    So I don't know about a "feud", but given the chance to explain and answer any concerns, questions and challenges, he opts for anything but that.
    No, you actually do NOT have that right. Same as on Twitter, FB or anywhere else. It's private property.

  10. #9130
    Looks like too much sun. Somebody get Shackleford some SPF50. That sun will age you like a bitch if you allow it.

  11. #9131
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Oh and as for Rekfast at WoV, I still think it is Singer. I know there are many (losing) player that have embraced that martingale / progressive wagering as a winning system, so that alone doesn't scream Singer, but the timing and the way he writes, and when I mentioned Singer, he had nothing but praise for him, that all leads me to believe it is Singer filling his need.
    I was wondering that myself.

  12. #9132
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I was just looking back at some PM's from Mike. In the final PM's before Mike banned me the first time he directed me to Gamblingforums, where he said there was already a long running thread attacking him, that I might enjoy. And his final thought to me at that time was:

    "Finally, you go right ahead and say whatever you wish about me. I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."

    You might want to read that bolded part again....HE DIRECTED ME TO GAMBLINGFORUMS advising of a thread attacking him, and literally invited me to do the same.
    And now this weird demand that I apologize for something said there. I guess it DID make a difference. What an idiot! And yeah Boz, that ponytail completes the look....of an idiot.

    I really don't care. I decided a year ago, after several suspensions for challenging Mdawgs BS, that I would never again try to contribute positively to WoV. And I haven't. I get suspended, I return and almost immediately still say what is on my mind and get suspended again.
    You really don’t understand what the “private” part of private messages mean, do you? You be disclosing them shits on the regular.

  13. #9133
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    [I]"Finally, you go right ahead and say whatever you wish about me. I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."
    You misunderstood.

    In inviting you to post flames against him there he's making it clear you'll be banned: " I've already made plenty of vociferous enemies that I've banned and one more won't make a difference."

    Think about it; if some guy you know says bad things about you in public would you invite him to Sunday dinner?

    I suspect you caught his drift but just let your emotions get carried away, and you lost.
    MrV, should Mike invite me to his house for Sunday dinner and I accepted, I would be on my best behavior as I would as a guest in anyone's home. But it is complete bullshit that WoV is Mike's home and should be treated as such. WoV is a gambling forum. And I have every right to call out complete BS that I feel is harmful to other members, as I have done with Mdawg and Singer (here). I also have a right to express my opinion that Shackleford protecting Mdawg and suspending anyone that Mdawg cries to him about, makes Shackleford complicit in these claims that are BS and can harm others.

    Now since I am addressing this, I want to go back a few posts and address Tasha. I don't really care what he/she is tired of. I have been tired of him/her for quite a while. But I did take interest in the term "feud". I don't consider that I am feuding with Mdawg. I just don't like his misleading claims that defy math and the way Las Vegas works. There are several members at WoV that have stated they have tried to emulate his play and surely even more that have not stated so publicly.

    His play as he describes it is not winning play, not +EV, although it is possible if he is getting some kind of major concessions like a rebate, it could approach +EV. BUT that wouldn't come close to explaining the winning of 95% of his sessions. So far he explains it with "betting into streaks". THAT is complete voodoo nonsense. And for Wizard to allow and protect him, is the same as Wizard himself stating that very nonsense.

    Recently here, we have seen a number of people challenge me and my claims. Some long-time "enemies" like Singer and coach belly. Some newer people showing up like Seedvalue. And even accountinquestion who seems to have flipped against me recently. The problem is that most of these people, their real issue isn't my blackjack play or claims. It is much more of a personal nature. That becomes obvious very quickly.

    But anyone that wants to question or challenge anything I do or have said, I will gladly indulge and try to explain as much as I can without harming myself. I did this with Blackhole a year ago. And am happy to do so again, if anyone has serious questions about what I do or claim. But I don't really see a lot of serious, legit questions. I just see personal attacks.

    So based on the word "feud" that Tasha used and I don't believe is my intent, today at GF, I challenged Mdawg, to a respectful, no name calling discussion of his claims based on the math and how Las Vegas works, instead of him just running and crying to Wizard anytime anyone (not just me) raises a question he can't answer.

    His response? well you can read for yourself, but it was just more trolling and name calling and quotes taken out of context and all that trolling stuff. I mean if he really is who he says, and I am not talking about his name or if he is a lawyer, or wealthy or any of that, I am talking about his gambling claims, and if he is doing what he claims, why not take the opportunity to explain to people that have doubts? Answer of course is because there is no real explanation. So any time anyone raises a legitimate concern or question, he cries to Wizard, and runs to another forum where he name calls and lies about that person.

    So I don't know about a "feud", but given the chance to explain and answer any concerns, questions and challenges, he opts for anything but that.
    You don’t make a living playing blackjack tho. That the problem I have with you. Instead of just coming clean and saying you have sugar daddies some that like you others you have extorted you keep up the charade. As far as being doxed I had a hustler dox one of my top guys and think it was me. What was funny about this situation is he just ended up getting his entire crew thrown out. Because my guy just set up shop with a bunch of Middle Aged women and ran cards until there was so much heat everyone got tossed.

  14. #9134
    I've given KJ shit over a bunch of things, but as for his blackjack play, he's completely legitimate.

  15. #9135
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    I've given KJ shit over a bunch of things, but as for his blackjack play, he's completely legitimate.
    Thank you, jbjb. I see no reason to even respond to this guy's complete nonsense anymore.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  16. #9136
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    I've given KJ shit over a bunch of things, but as for his blackjack play, he's completely legitimate.
    Thank you, jbjb. I see no reason to even respond to this guy's complete nonsense anymore.


    There’s no proof tho. But there’s financial proof and real life testimony of what I have said.

    Jbjb could just be another sock of gunplay or a lover.

    Financial records of Jason show he does not make enough money gambling to support his claims.

    You guys can tell all the stories you want on here. It’s fine some people need to do this to get through life. But the fact is the financial history of gunplay/ Jason does not back up his story. Carry on tho in your fantasy world

  17. #9137
    I'm neither of the above. And I don't care about your feud with him. And if anyone hasn't provided any "proof" about their play, its Sid, err, Seed.

  18. #9138
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    I'm neither of the above. And I don't care about your feud with him. And if anyone hasn't provided any "proof" about their play, its Sid, err, Seed.
    O but I have

    For example I can create 90k in free play on two cards at will on a play that’s +ev outright. And I have a big enough dick and balls to run the the play every day because I don’t give a fuck about getting kicked out.

    Gun play doesn’t make what he says. If you want to bet escrow 100k I will do it first if there’s a 10k penalty if you back out that I can do what I just said bitch. Bring your gay buddy along to suck you off after you pay me.


    You dumb fucks think everyone is rob but in reality the only one who’s worse then rob is kew.

    If you can’t bet stfu

  19. #9139
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    O but I have

    For example I can create 90k in free play on two cards at will on a play that’s +ev outright. And I have a big enough dick and balls to run the the play every day because I don’t give a fuck about getting kicked out.

    Gun play doesn’t make what he says. If you want to bet escrow 100k I will do it first if there’s a 10k penalty if you back out that I can do what I just said bitch. Bring your gay buddy along to suck you off after you pay me.


    You dumb fucks think everyone is rob but in reality the only one who’s worse then rob is kew.

    If you can’t bet stfu
    That's Great but I require more stories of impregnating White Women to save the White Race.
    Please and Thank You!
    I wish I would of had this information 30 years ago as I could of really helped out.
    1 = 1000 but 2 = 10,000 ... Fact!

  20. #9140
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    I'm neither of the above. And I don't care about your feud with him. And if anyone hasn't provided any "proof" about their play, its Sid, err, Seed.
    You still back east going for $750 a day offers ?

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