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  1. #961
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    If you keep it up I'll be forced to go to a number of the websites of casinos where you say you do your drive-bys and link to the same pics you use of their promotional pages.
    That's fine, Robbie. You do that. All the screenshots in the Road Pic thread are time stamped. See if you can find one of these pics that was on the internet before I posted it. It'll put a big feather in your cap. You will have proved me a fraud. But meanwhile I've got you covered. When I want to take a pic I wheel the car around to get into position. The following pictures came out of my road pics thread. You can check them out if you don't believe it.This picture here of the Madison River in Montana was time stamped n the road pics thread last august. Notice the rear view mirror where you can see the back of the car:
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    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 04-07-2018 at 07:09 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  2. #962
    Couer D'Alene Casino.This pic was time stamped last August. Oop, there's that same rear view mirror with the back of the car showing.
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    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 04-07-2018 at 07:20 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #963
    This picture here taken at the casino in French Lick, Indiana was time stamped in the road pic thread last September. Wow, there's that same rear view mirror with the back of the car showing.
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    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 04-07-2018 at 07:19 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #964
    This picture taken at the Jack Casino in Cincinnatti was time stamped in the road pic thread last October. Damn, there's that same rear view mirror with the back of the car showing.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #965
    Only you would think seeing a tiny part of the back of a junk car in a mirror has any specific meaning.

    Let's see what everybody wants to see but is afraid to ask...lest it destroys their fantasies. Let's see those pics if you standing beside some of those daily jackpots you claim to hit everywhere. Maybe alone with some W2G's?

    Oh that's right--you don't want any attention from the IRS because you never file tax returns.

  6. #966
    Onawa, Iowa time stamped in the road pic thread last December. Same rear view mirror.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  7. #967
    Deadwood, South Dakota. Time stamped in the road pic thread in January. Same rear view mirror.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #968
    Wyandotte, Oklahoma. Time stamped in the road pic thread in February. Same rear view mirror.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #969
    SunRay Park, Farmington, New Mexico. Time stamped in March. Same rear view mirror.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #970
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    That's not my problem with it. The problem is the general public seeing what machines I'm playing and how and why I'm playing them. My ability to make money is predicated on the ignorance of the other players under the roof. They are the ones leaving machines when they are in positive mode. Once it gets shown on TV two things will happen.

    1. A lot of people will quit leaving machines when they are in positive mode.

    2. A lot of people will start looking for machines in positive mode.

    There is only so much money to be made. If a lot of other people are doing the same thing as I am there is not enough money in it to go around. To many pigs at the trough. With no one else doing it I get all the plays and make all the available money.
    I understand there's a significant difference between posting something online (few viewers) vs having a TV show or segment on your plays. But why write about them online, especially in so much detail? I mean, you're practically begging for people to come out to MT to compete against you. I somewhat considered taking a trip out there just to see what was all going on....but figured at $500/day in EV, it isn't worth it (lots of expenses), plus I don't know the lay of the land, would have to do the math on the games, etc. That isn't to say someone who is more motivated to travel and do new stuff if they don't have anything right now (EG: Someone like ZenKing) wouldn't fly or drive out there and do a MT tour for a few weeks or month(s), or possibly just live out there.
    Tell them to come in December or January. They'll love the hot and balmy days.
    That doesn't make any sense. Even RS__ should be able to deduce that mickey already knows nobody is ever gonna go out to Montana to check him and his total dump casinos out. That's why he keeps inviting "AP's". I've been thru there four times, only because of having to over the years. There's absolutely nothing worthwhile, and just about all the slobs up there look like and drink like him.

    I think you picked up on the scam. He's another WoN lurking on the forums, only he doesn't have the brains, the resources, or the nerve to create any tale where anyone with money would bother going to a hole like he hides in. That's also why he makes up stories and drive-by pics of being in Oklahoma one day, Louisiana the next, the Montana the next. There must be someone who keeps trying to meet him up there for some kind of proof.

  11. #971
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Only you would think seeing a tiny part of the back of a junk car in a mirror has any specific meaning.

    Let's see what everybody wants to see but is afraid to ask...lest it destroys their fantasies. Let's see those pics if you standing beside some of those daily jackpots you claim to hit everywhere. Maybe alone with some W2G's?

    Oh that's right--you don't want any attention from the IRS because you never file tax returns.
    I don't play for W-2G jackpots. Don't need them. Everyone knows you don't accept any evidence. That's your schtick. It wasn't put up for you, nimrod. Hows life in the trailerhood in South Dakota? SOUTH DAKOTA!!! I thought you didn't like hick states. Turns out you're just a hick too. Trailer trash to boot.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #972
    That's right, they exempt all those near-$10,000 jackpots you told everyone you play for "a thousand times"!

    Next lie please.

  13. #973
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post

    I understand there's a significant difference between posting something online (few viewers) vs having a TV show or segment on your plays. But why write about them online, especially in so much detail? I mean, you're practically begging for people to come out to MT to compete against you. I somewhat considered taking a trip out there just to see what was all going on....but figured at $500/day in EV, it isn't worth it (lots of expenses), plus I don't know the lay of the land, would have to do the math on the games, etc. That isn't to say someone who is more motivated to travel and do new stuff if they don't have anything right now (EG: Someone like ZenKing) wouldn't fly or drive out there and do a MT tour for a few weeks or month(s), or possibly just live out there.
    Tell them to come in December or January. They'll love the hot and balmy days.
    That doesn't make any sense. Even RS__ should be able to deduce that mickey already knows nobody is ever gonna go out to Montana to check him and his total dump casinos out. That's why he keeps inviting "AP's". I've been thru there four times, only because of having to over the years. There's absolutely nothing worthwhile, and just about all the slobs up there look like and drink like him.

    I think you picked up on the scam. He's another WoN lurking on the forums, only he doesn't have the brains, the resources, or the nerve to create any tale where anyone with money would bother going to a hole like he hides in. That's also why he makes up stories and drive-by pics of being in Oklahoma one day, Louisiana the next, the Montana the next. There must be someone who keeps trying to meet him up there for some kind of proof.
    You ran for the hills when I proposed that $10,000 challenge. I would've made you post the money up first, chickenshit betwelshing sockpuppet Robbie.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #974
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    It doesn't matter what your win goal is. One percent or a hundred percent, the answer is always gonna be "not enough".
    It's all relative. A 5% win on $100 isn't much. But Rob has $55,000 to get a $2500 win.

    Of course with mickeycrimm winning $500 a day, Mickey surpasses Rob's wins by about $25,000 per year. Right Mickey, you win $125,000 a year playing just five days a week?

    (Rob won only $100,000 a year.)
    It's not relative at all. What the heck are you talking about. 5% is 5%, 100% is 100%. It's got nothing to do with the amounts wagered.
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  15. #975
    Geez Alan, maybe you did have a profit gambling but your math skills are so poor you don't realize it. Wink wink.
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  16. #976
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I see AxelWolf has came out to make a comment. The problem is he and others have waited far to long for me to care about what he has to say. I haven't read his post yet but I figure he is defending his honor and his pals honor in some way and is upset about how relentless I have been calling them out. The only one I can respect is Mission 146 because he came out immediately explaining his side for a long time. However it's hard to imagine him hanging with WoN and being oblivious to anything going on. It's hard to imagine him having lunch with WoN and DarkOz after DarkOz admits he wears make up after being back roomed for running 20 players cards. Also DarkOz claims to run a crew of 50 players of friends and family but WoN is the only one he dealt with online. Hard to believe since we know he also met up with Mission. Is it that hard to realize that DarkOz is just as bad as WoN? DarkOz uses his daughter to AP and gets her involved with WoN. DarkOz clearly runs many players cards and wears masks and make up in public to avoid detection. DarkOz gets back roomed. DarkOz sleeps on the street for years until he figures out AP and becomes the most successful East Coast AP. This story just gets weirder and weirder.

    Oh right DarkOz outs the Plaza Tax Day Promotion and everyone on WoV hates him. The Wizard says he is allowed to post that type of information and tells everyone to stop giving him trouble. Heck many members get suspended for improper behavior and PMs. The Wizard breaks down the five dollar machines and all APs go ballistic on WoV.

    Now two years later BBB says the forum is not allowed to talk about current AP plays... she gets plenty of negative backlash and has yet to comment. The inner circle is taking over WoV more and more and eventually it will just be a private club. They should just charge dues and make it a private board and not for public view or participation. How can any respect the Wizard... he doesn't even tell BBB she is wrong about her recent posts/warnings!?
    So you just claim you delete PM's and didn't read someone's post's? That's fine, but then making insinuatins, talking about and attacking soneone without actually reading the facts and their defences seems a bit one sided. If you want to ignore me because you don't want to confront me as to why you are attacking me for no good reason that's fine. I guess everyone can just claim they don't read posts and delete PMs.

  17. #977
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    In fact I asked that same question here on the forum several times but no one responded. I'll ask again:
    What percentage of the time have you been ahead by just one bet playing video poker?
    Starting with a bank roll of 100 units, Alan, you can expect to hit 105 units (where each unit bet pays 4000 to 1 for a natural royal flush) about 82% of the time before losing the 100 units (i.e losing your bank roll) when playing 8/5 (99.17% payback) bonus poker (assumes optimal discarding strategy - no "special plays") as shown in the screenshot. 18% of the time you will never reach 105 units before losing your bank roll of 100 units.
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  18. #978
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I see AxelWolf has came out to make a comment. The problem is he and others have waited far to long for me to care about what he has to say. I haven't read his post yet but I figure he is defending his honor and his pals honor in some way and is upset about how relentless I have been calling them out. The only one I can respect is Mission 146 because he came out immediately explaining his side for a long time. However it's hard to imagine him hanging with WoN and being oblivious to anything going on. It's hard to imagine him having lunch with WoN and DarkOz after DarkOz admits he wears make up after being back roomed for running 20 players cards. Also DarkOz claims to run a crew of 50 players of friends and family but WoN is the only one he dealt with online. Hard to believe since we know he also met up with Mission. Is it that hard to realize that DarkOz is just as bad as WoN? DarkOz uses his daughter to AP and gets her involved with WoN. DarkOz clearly runs many players cards and wears masks and make up in public to avoid detection. DarkOz gets back roomed. DarkOz sleeps on the street for years until he figures out AP and becomes the most successful East Coast AP. This story just gets weirder and weirder.

    Oh right DarkOz outs the Plaza Tax Day Promotion and everyone on WoV hates him. The Wizard says he is allowed to post that type of information and tells everyone to stop giving him trouble. Heck many members get suspended for improper behavior and PMs. The Wizard breaks down the five dollar machines and all APs go ballistic on WoV.

    Now two years later BBB says the forum is not allowed to talk about current AP plays... she gets plenty of negative backlash and has yet to comment. The inner circle is taking over WoV more and more and eventually it will just be a private club. They should just charge dues and make it a private board and not for public view or participation. How can any respect the Wizard... he doesn't even tell BBB she is wrong about her recent posts/warnings!?
    So you just claim you delete PM's and didn't read someone's post's? That's fine, but then making insinuations and talking about and attacking soneone without actually knowing the facts and their defences seems a bit one sided. If you want to ignore me because you don't want to confront me as to why you are attacking me for no good reason that's fine. I guess everyone can just claim they don't read posts and delete PMs. I'm willing to meet you face to face and talk about and explain my reasons for whatever you are curious about and confront you as to why you are attacking me when I have never gave you any reason to do so. It just seems a bit odd to me. Just let me know when and where. I'll probably be a available. Let's hash this out in person. FYI that's not some kind of threat or anything I want to hash this out and figure out why you have so much hate for me.

    Especially given our history. Anyone can go back and read everything we have talked about, and I would love to know what they can come up with as to why you are directing your anger and comments at me.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 04-07-2018 at 08:23 PM.

  19. #979
    FYI I'm out and about as we speak. I'm willing to meet up now and figure this out. If you are online feel free to contact me
    You have my number. If you don't have it at this time for whatever reason (new cell phone) PM me and I'll respond.

  20. #980
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    In fact I asked that same question here on the forum several times but no one responded. I'll ask again:
    What percentage of the time have you been ahead by just one bet playing video poker?
    Starting with a bank roll of 100 units, Alan, you can expect to hit 105 units (where each unit bet pays 4000 to 1 for a natural royal flush) about 82% of the time before losing the 100 units (i.e losing your bank roll) when playing 8/5 (99.17% payback) bonus poker (assumes optimal discarding strategy - no "special plays") as shown in the screenshot. 18% of the time you will never reach 105 units before losing your bank roll of 100 units.
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    You're showing Alan an 82% rate, but when you start at 1 credit, then bet 2 if you lose, then bet 5 credits until you recover and make at least 1 credit profit, the rate goes up to 95%. I've used this method on the $100 machine 5 times just to try it out. I'm 5-0 and $1100 ahead doing it. It is not, however, a reasonable way to try and make consistent money.

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