The WoV Thread

[mickeycrimm]

"Body shaming" now, are ya, dawg?

Wow, a new low...even for you.

But what isn't new is the reason. At one time Poker Grinder publicly expressed doubt about Mdawg and his gambling claims. And that immediately put him on the same list as several dozen others that Mdawg attacks in anyway he can think of.

Wealthy, or not wealthy, or wealthy to some degree (less than he wants people to think), it looks very similar to another insecure old "orange" dude I saw on the TV last night.

I would say this is an illness of the wealthy, but then there is Rob Singer.

But it is most definitely an illness of insecure people.

Orange Dude is going to be your next president.

[kewlJ]

Orange Dude is going to be your next president.

I don't think so mickey. If you really believe that you can get better than even money on him. My money....all $10 that I have wagered on the election so far is on Glenn Youngkin @ 300-1.

And I don't think Biden will be the Democratic nominee either come fall. I would have liked to place a similar type bet on Gavin Newsome, but he is only at 7 or 8-1, which is suspiciously low.

I don't think Trump looks very well right now (neither does Biden). But it is kind of new for Trump. He looks, tired, maybe ill. Looks like he just isn't even in it to me. To use a term he used on Jeb, Donald looks very low energy right now. Maybe that is even understandable. He has a lot of things going on. I think it is wearing on him.

[1Hit1der]

And as a lawyer you should know that it's not always about who is right but who makes the best argument.

Probably true only of the universe, itself, in the sense that it has nothing to compare itself to, ie, no right, or wrong, way to proceed except to be what it has to be. Yet, we try to solve it with math, and physics, and, so on. It doesn't care what we think.

[Rob.Singer]

Orange Dude is going to be your next president.

I don't think so mickey. If you really believe that you can get better than even money on him. My money....all $10 that I have wagered on the election so far is on Glenn Youngkin @ 300-1.

And I don't think Biden will be the Democratic nominee either come fall. I would have liked to place a similar type bet on Gavin Newsome, but he is only at 7 or 8-1, which is suspiciously low.

I don't think Trump looks very well right now (neither does Biden). But it is kind of new for Trump. He looks, tired, maybe ill. Looks like he just isn't even in it to me. To use a term he used on Jeb, Donald looks very low energy right now. Maybe that is even understandable. He has a lot of things going on. I think it is wearing on him.

Unfortunately kew you have a well documented history of telling us how you want things to be rather than how or what they really are.

Even MrV on his myriad of drugs can see a world of difference between a lost & feeble, doddling Biden and the energizer bunny that is Trump. I'd even bet Trump would run circles around a couch potato like yourself. The guy is a marvel of energy, which is one thing we all really like about him. Running between court cases, campaign events, media appearances, etc. day in and day out....those are the type things he does that irk the hell out of go-nowhere/do-nothings like you.

This year's gonna be one big beautiful show of waiting for snd watching all you Trump haters squirm as he gets closer and closer and closer to the presidency again. In fact, it's even worth watching MSNBC right now, as that ugly dike Rachel Maddow is already coming apart at the seams over the realization about Trump.

And why do you queer people need to lie so much? Don't you have enuf self-caused problems already?

[kewlJ]

Orange Dude is going to be your next president.

I don't think so mickey. If you really believe that you can get better than even money on him. My money....all $10 that I have wagered on the election so far is on Glenn Youngkin @ 300-1.

And I don't think Biden will be the Democratic nominee either come fall. I would have liked to place a similar type bet on Gavin Newsome, but he is only at 7 or 8-1, which is suspiciously low.

I don't think Trump looks very well right now (neither does Biden). But it is kind of new for Trump. He looks, tired, maybe ill. Looks like he just isn't even in it to me. To use a term he used on Jeb, Donald looks very low energy right now. Maybe that is even understandable. He has a lot of things going on. I think it is wearing on him.

Unfortunately kew you have a well documented history of telling us how you want things to be rather than how or what they really are.

Even MrV on his myriad of drugs can see a world of difference between a lost & feeble, doddling Biden and the energizer bunny that is Trump. I'd even bet Trump would run circles around a couch potato like yourself. The guy is a marvel of energy, which is one thing we all really like about him. Running between court cases, campaign events, media appearances, etc. day in and day out....those are the type things he does that irk the hell out of go-nowhere/do-nothings like you.

This year's gonna be one big beautiful show of waiting for snd watching all you Trump haters squirm as he gets closer and closer and closer to the presidency again. In fact, it's even worth watching MSNBC right now, as that ugly dike Rachel Maddow is already coming apart at the seams over the realization about Trump.

And why do you queer people need to lie so much? Don't you have enuf self-caused problems already?

You know what is going to be a "big Beautiful show", Rob? The day that is coming in the next week or two when the Verdict in New York is read and the Orange Man is fined 400 MILLION DOLLARS and has someone not named Trump placed in charge of his businesses. THAT will be a fun day! And I don't say that because I don't like his politics. I say that because the man has cheated and stolen his entire life.

It cracks me up how Rob, with his infantile brain thinks he is hurting me by attacking Rachel Maddow. Just as he used to think the same when he said shit about Don Lemon. News Flash Rob: I am not a Rachel Maddow fan. I don't watch her. She is too far to the left for me. When is she on Monday's at 6pm (Vegas time)? I am usually watching sports, MNF or basketball.

And Rob, I really could care less what some geriatric African-Italian guy like you thinks about me or anyone else.

And for the record Rachel Maddow is not ugly. Yes, she is very dyke looking. I think that is her intent. But she is a fairly good looking woman, especially for 50. I also don't think she is doing too well health-wise. I saw her for a few minutes a couple times I checked in election night this week and she didn't look good or right to me.

[redietz]

I'm left of Marx on most things. Having said that, I think:

1) Trump will win if nobody poisons or shoots him.

2) Maddow should have fallen on her sword after some of her Covid comments/declarations early in the pandemic. She was irresponsibly, loudly, and completely wrong on most key elements of Covid and never came clean with a public mea culpa. Her handling of the most important story in recent times was so flawed that she should just have retired.

3) I will personally pay a hundred bucks to see a debate between Trump and Biden every week. It should be a weekly show. Advertisers would pay a fortune. Trump could misread a bunch of cue cards while Biden struggles with his earpiece and which way is off the stage. It'll be like watching a WWE wrestler arguing with Bernie from Weekend at Bernie's.

[MisterV]

Robert thinks Trump is Superman; if so, age is his Kryptonite, same as Biden.

None of us are getting any younger.

Both have deteriorated since they first met in 2016: the change is obvious.

Both mispronounce and seem a bit "lost."

Their faces look much more ancient and tired.

Trump wanders like he's on dope during campaign events.

Is this a great country, or what?

Vote Libertarian.

[kewlJ]

1) Trump will win if nobody poisons or shoots him.

Are those the only two possibilities, Red? In Russia which Trump is so obsessed with, prominent people meet their demise by "falling" out windows of high-rises or because their airplane mysteriously blew up.

Trump will lose a two person race against anyone....even Biden. Even a post stroke type Joe Biden in a wheelchair on oxygen. This isn't about Trump, nor is it about Biden. It is about the independents that decide most elections. Trump got his share of them in 2016 when the other candidate Hillary, was even less apealing to independents. He didn't get his share in 2020. And he has lost even more since. Almost all.

A big block of this independent group is women, specifically suburban women. They are not for Trump and nothing will bring them back. Things like Trump being convicted of sexual assault of a woman 20 years ago, may not matter to MAGA world. Maybe not even matter to most voters. But guess who that does matter to? Suburban independent women.

But that isn't even the big problem. The Dobbs ruling (overturning Roe v Wade) and working to get the judges on the supreme court to make that ruling was the stupidest thing the republican ever did. Ever heard that saying "be careful what you wish for"? The Republicans are on the wrong side of abortion by a 2-1 margin. It isn't a big or top issue for me, but it is for enough women that it will absolutely kill the republicans.

It already has in EVERY election since the ruling. 2022 midterms and about 8-10 special elections, republicans have lost and underperformed since that ruling. Even 3 very red states like Kentucky and Ohio where abortion was on the ballot, they lost big. It was such a stupid thing because it was so much better for republicans when abortion was THEIR issue for 50 years, energizing their base. Now they have poked the bear, that is suburban woman. That is a fatal "poke".

The only possible chance Trump has at winning this election would be if Biden passed away or dropped out and the dems handed the nomination to Kamala Harris. I don't think they would do that. I think it would be someone else. That is why Gavin Newsome is only at 7-1 for this election.

The second possibility of a Trump win would be if their was a strong 3rd party taking significant vote. And I mean significant. Like Ross Perot type numbers of 19%. 15% at the very least. I know No-Names is on the horizon. I don't think they will be able to pull off that much vote and without knowing exactly who would be on their ticket, we can't even calculate whether it would hurt Biden or Trump more. But something like that is the only way Trumps 40% (maybe lower) support in a General election would be enough. If It is head to head, Trump is going to get smoked the likes of a Bob Dole.

[MaxPen]

You will get the selected candidate from the selected ones provided to you for the show. If any of it mattered you wouldn't even be allowed to pretend vote. So why argue about it?

Vote with your actions and how you live your life. Only a fool thinks he/she makes a difference...RIP

[kewlJ]

You will get the selected candidate from the selected ones provided to you for the show. If any of it mattered you wouldn't even be allowed to pretend vote. So why argue about it?

Isn't that part of Nickki Haley's argument? A couple hundred voters from 2 small states have voted on picking their candidate so far. Shouldn't more have some sort of reasonable say? She doesn't have a chance in hell with Trump owning the republican party like he does, but should we at least go through the motions of people having their say?

I attended the republican caucuses here in Nevada 8 years ago in 2016. Caucuses are a joke anyway as you have to spend hours, listen to speeches and then vote by moving over to the area that each candidates' supporters go to. And then guess what? If a candidate didn't have enough supporters, like 15%, you had to go pick a second choice. What kind of nonsense is that? They are limiting or telling you who you can pick.

And then after the first two primary/caucuses, you have winner takes all. Delegates should be handed out proportionately. You get 40% of the vote, you get 40% of delegates. If you get 20% of vote you should get 20% of delegates. And after everyone has voted if someone has enough delegates they are the nominee. If no one has enough, that is where it gets interesting. Or used to

Now we just have some billionaires on both sides providing the money for a candidate to win one or two small states that a tenth of 1% decides who will be running.

Totally fucked up system we have all around.

[mickeycrimm]

Rachel Maddow is uglier than a mud fence.

In 2020 Trump lost the swing states that decided the election by about 2 tenths of 1 percent. Immigration and the economy are the two biggest issues this time around. Trump smokes Biden on those two issues. Independents are breaking hard for Trump. People that never voted for Trump are now saying they will vote for him. He's probably going to carry some blue states.

Protecting unborn babies from being murdered is not the "wrong side of the issue." But Roe V. Wade did not outlaw abortion. It simply sent the issue back to the states to make their own laws.

Trump's much calmer demeanor is all an act. He's been advised he needs to tone it down, stick to the issues, and quit poking fun at the idiot opposition.

Trump is crushing Biden in the polls. Wake up and smell the coffee, KJ. Trump will be your next president.

[Tasha]

Rachel Maddow isn't ugly. She just looks kind of masculine. Which makes sense judging by the fact that she's a Lesbian. Many Lesbians tend to look masculine.

[1Hit1der]

You will get the selected candidate from the selected ones provided to you for the show. If any of it mattered you wouldn't even be allowed to pretend vote. So why argue about it?

Vote with your actions and how you live your life. Only a fool thinks he/she makes a difference...RIP

But, electing dictators removes any thus Earthly hope.

[Don Perignom]

But, electing dictators removes any thus Earthly hope.

[accountinquestion]

You will get the selected candidate from the selected ones provided to you for the show. If any of it mattered you wouldn't even be allowed to pretend vote. So why argue about it?

Vote with your actions and how you live your life. Only a fool thinks he/she makes a difference...RIP

I'm more or less at this point. Or just support libertarian or green party.

[accountinquestion]

Rachel Maddow isn't ugly. She just looks kind of masculine. Which makes sense judging by the fact that she's a Lesbian. Many Lesbians tend to look masculine.

Any one who thinks Maddow is straight up ugly is a latent homo. Plenty of pictures out there otherwise. I don't mind short hair at all.

[Tasha]

Rachel Maddow isn't ugly. She just looks kind of masculine. Which makes sense judging by the fact that she's a Lesbian. Many Lesbians tend to look masculine.

Any one who thinks Maddow is straight up ugly is a latent homo. Plenty of pictures out there otherwise. I don't mind short hair at all.

To be fair, Rachel is a homosexual herself.

[1Hit1der]

But, electing dictators removes any thus Earthly hope.

Yeah, this whole Trump thing is an enigma in a puzzle wrapped up in a riddle for a bow. Ha. In America. So strange.

[Don Perignom]

Yeah, this whole Trump thing is an enigma in a puzzle wrapped up in a riddle for a bow.

Trump will be a dictator!

[1Hit1der]

I'm over at the Wizard's now, to copy a few of theGrimReaper13's posts. My thus last post was political.

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Hump Trillary.

Now I wonder that there's one to do with Biden, and Trump.