The WoV Thread

[MisterV]

Wonder if he has the Wiz on private retainer?

You know, to be his yes man and to keep the bullies and nay-sayers at bay.

Money talks...

[MaxPen]

Interesting development over at the Shack shack (WoV) today. Mission146 has announced that he is undertaking a project to add up all of Mdawg's daily and trip reports of his claimed winnings over the last 5+ years.

Speaking as someone who has done this for several of Mdawgs trips, I suspect Mission doesn't realize how time consuming this will be. I wish him well.

What mission will likely conclude, should he be permitted to complete this project, is that Mdawg has claimed to have won several million dollars over that time:
PLAYING TABLES GAMES
PLAYING RATED (where the casino can see your results)
PLAYING HI LIMIT ROOMS AND PRIVATE TABLES with many sets of eyes on him.

and has not only received no heat, backoffs, trespasses or countermeasures that he has spoken of, but the pit bosses loved him and patted him on the back, all the while the casinos comped him extraordinarily (like a high rolling LOSING player).....according to the fairytale.

I for one am looking forward to the results. Although this project appears to be without the approval of Mdawg and my bet is he is burning up the phone line and PM's to Shackleford, begging Mike to put a stop to it, to protect Mdawg again, as Mdawg is not going to want such a clear picture showing what nonsense these claims are.

Good luck Mission.

People will believe the MDawg tales before they believe your storyline.

As the Tunnel Turns....RIP

[kewlJ]

People will believe the MDawg tales before they believe your storyline.

As the Tunnel Turns....RIP

Maxipad (nickname credited to mickeycrimm), I don't care who believes me or not. I don't know how many times I have to say that. I am not selling anything. Not benefiting in any way from my participation on any forum. I don't make more if someone believes me. Nothing changes.

Do you people think I haven't seen the polls, where you vote by wide margins that you don't believe me? I see them. I don't believe some of you are being honest, but again, I don't care.

Nothing I say defies the math. Nothing I say defies the way things work with blackjack or Las Vegas. So it is nothing more than people like you deciding they want to troll me. So have fun. It changes nothing. Not what I do. Not what I make. Not where I live. NOTHING!

But what mdawg claims defies everything. And that has always been my problem with his stories and really the problem of most AP's and players that know how things work.

mdawg immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was me behind this. Nope, mdawg. Wrong again. But I am happy to see it. Mainly because most members have just tuned you and your reports out now for quite a while. But seeing the recap, where your claims add up to millions won at table games with pit and surveillance watching you, with you playing rated so they would know your results and then add in all the comps, I think it is going to once again rub people the wrong way. I expect a lot of people asking "why is this guy allowed to peddle this bullshit at WoV"? they might as will open the door to Mikki what's his name and Dan Druff's friend, Christopher Mitchell or Morganstern, the blackjack army guy (what happened to THAT guy?) and all the other scammers.

Do you know what mdawg said in response to Mission adding up his claims? He said good because he has won so much money so fast he doesn't even know what he has won. What a fucktard. This dude is just Rob Singer on steriods.....or maybe handfuls of supplements.

[smurgerburger]

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

[kewlJ]

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

The "compulsive liar" narrative is B.S. I have only lied, or in the case of my college experience, not been completely up front to protect my identity from several trolls that repeatedly are looking to identify for the purpose if damaging my career and income.

But if that is really what you want to believe...then believe it. Like I keep saying changes nothing. It's not like my book sales are dropping because you want to troll me.

[accountinquestion]

People will believe the MDawg tales before they believe your storyline.

As the Tunnel Turns....RIP

Maxipad (nickname credited to mickeycrimm), I don't care who believes me or not. I don't know how many times I have to say that. I am not selling anything. Not benefiting in any way from my participation on any forum. I don't make more if someone believes me. Nothing changes.

Do you people think I haven't seen the polls, where you vote by wide margins that you don't believe me? I see them. I don't believe some of you are being honest, but again, I don't care.

Nothing I say defies the math. Nothing I say defies the way things work with blackjack or Las Vegas. So it is nothing more than people like you deciding they want to troll me. So have fun. It changes nothing. Not what I do. Not what I make. Not where I live. NOTHING!

But what mdawg claims defies everything. And that has always been my problem with his stories and really the problem of most AP's and players that know how things work.

mdawg immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was me behind this. Nope, mdawg. Wrong again. But I am happy to see it. Mainly because most members have just tuned you and your reports out now for quite a while. But seeing the recap, where your claims add up to millions won at table games with pit and surveillance watching you, with you playing rated so they would know your results and then add in all the comps, I think it is going to once again rub people the wrong way. I expect a lot of people asking "why is this guy allowed to peddle this bullshit at WoV"? they might as will open the door to Mikki what's his name and Dan Druff's friend, Christopher Mitchell or Morganstern, the blackjack army guy (what happened to THAT guy?) and all the other scammers.

Do you know what mdawg said in response to Mission adding up his claims? He said good because he has won so much money so fast he doesn't even know what he has won. What a fucktard. This dude is just Rob Singer on steriods.....or maybe handfuls of supplements.

Get help.

[accountinquestion]

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

Just his absolute obsession with how other's perceive Mdawg ... then when you layer that on to being such a serial liar himself. You get a person completely divorced from reality.

[accountinquestion]

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

The "compulsive liar" narrative is B.S. I have only lied, or in the case of my college experience, not been completely up front to protect my identity from several trolls that repeatedly are looking to identify for the purpose if damaging my career and income.

But if that is really what you want to believe...then believe it. Like I keep saying changes nothing. It's not like my book sales are dropping because you want to troll me.

Get help.

[kewlJ]

Smurger, I just want to be clear what you are saying.

I joined my first forum in 2006 or 2007, blackjack info. So for 18 years I have pretended to play blackjack, learning everything I could about how to win, and how to be allowed and welcome to continue to play. I then up and moved completely across country from Philadelphia, to Las Vegas, and Dan Druff has confirmed I live and post from Las Vegas. And did all this to pretend I play blackjack while I am really supporting myself from some other method? And no not the male prostitute thing. I know you don't believe that. Anyone who really believes that is beyond looney.

So that is what you really believe, smurger?

And yes I do realize that we have a loon that has trolled the forum for decades in Rob Singer, but he hasn't learned and doesn't know shit about really winning. You think I have learned everything I have learned, not to make money playing with and advantage, but to pretend for 18 years? While moving to and living in Vegas for 15 years!

Come on man. You don't believe that.

[kewlJ]

Fuck off AinQ! YOU I KNOW are trolling and hating, absolutely no different that Singer and mdawg.

[accountinquestion]

Smurger, I just want to be clear what you are saying.

I joined my first forum in 2006 or 2007, blackjack info. So for 18 years I have pretended to play blackjack, learning everything I could about how to win, and how to be allowed and welcome to continue to play. I then up and moved completely across country from Philadelphia, to Las Vegas, and Dan Druff has confirmed I live and post from Las Vegas. And did all this to pretend I play blackjack while I am really supporting myself from some other method? And no not the male prostitute thing. I know you don't believe that. Anyone who really believes that is beyond looney.

So that is what you really believe, smurger?

And yes I do realize that we have a loon that has trolled the forum for decades in Rob Singer, but he hasn't learned and doesn't know shit about really winning. You think I have learned everything I have learned, not to make money playing with and advantage, but to pretend for 18 years? While moving to and living in Vegas for 15 years!

Come on man. You don't believe that.

No one knows what you really do so all we can do is conjecture. You being a prostitute is as valid conjecture as anything. It is Las Vegas. You have some need to constantly put yourself out there as a card counter and legitimize yourself.

You've also said numerous things that are completely manufactured. Mdawg has that list.. 26 distinct items and growing every day? Is it above 26 now?

You willingly admit your believable story should be believed just because everything about it is believable. Then you skip over all the unbelievable stuff you've said yet you will allude to all of it when you claim you're been blanket truthful. Then you point to Singer or Mdawg because once upon a time they've both claimed things that are also not that believable.

Funny how you always have to bring it back to Singer or Mdawg. Somehow in your head it really is about them more than yourself. You're a fascinating human specimen but more importantly .. Kewl ..

Get help.

[accountinquestion]

Fuck off AinQ! YOU I KNOW are trolling and hating, absolutely no different that Singer and mdawg.

Not true. I really believe that.. you should...

Get help.

[MDawg]

MDawg is taken more serious than anyone on here currently.
He is taken so seriously that DarkOz gave him 2,000 dollars.
That wasn't good enough so he tipped the Wizard 500 dollars.
I'd say that MDawg is taken very seriously to some members.
DarkOz for starters.

And this continues today, as at least two people spend night and day adding up all the money I've won.



Why should anyone be upset over it? My session reports are all public record and not only that - the amounts I have posted that I won correlate almost exactly to the year end verified WIN statements I posted. Yup, actual video of me logged into my casino accounts, navigating around, live video - all equals what I've claimed. So there's your proof too that I never left out anything.

As usual UNKewlJ gets it wrong, thinking that this is an exercise in anything more than flattery and basic addition and subtraction.

How many times does he need to suffer thru "It just isn't fair that MDawg gets to claim he wins all the time with comps, gifts and special treatment, and he gets support & cover from Benedict Shack and other Richard Potatoes from the gaming forums' group of administrators!" "Can't you people see how much this HURTS me when I can't do anything about it?"

Yes....kew IS the architect of his own suffering. While other disbelievers aren't affected one bit by what MDawg does or says, kew let's it get so far under his skin that it's beginning to spell I AM A FOOL all over his wimpy body

How about some truth about his obsession for a refreshing change. Kew is so extraordinarily jealous of the guy because he knows he has wealth far beyond anything kew will ever see. He also despises him for being normal and not being afflicted with that short circuit in his brain. Covering up this ball of envy with rambling posts of "I'm an educator on LV gambling operation, and I say THAT'S NOT HOW THIS CITY WORKS!"

[kewlJ]

Fuck off AinQ! YOU I KNOW are trolling and hating, absolutely no different that Singer and mdawg.

Not true. I really believe that.. you should...

Get help.

As I do with you. I have seen nothing but trolling and bullying of an insecure person, ad all bullies are.

[MDawg]

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

Just his absolute obsession with how other's perceive Mdawg ... then when you layer that on to being such a serial liar himself. You get a person completely divorced from reality.

AccountInQuestion you really did miss your calling, as you seem to be able to slice open UNKewlJ's psyche better than the psychiatrists he probably has to see monthly to keep getting his SSI (that he seems to know so much about, right down to exactly when the payments are supposed to land in the bank) payments.

[kewlJ]

Anyway, can see the usual trolls and haters want to make this about me....as they always do.

I just wanted make note of what is finally occurring at WoV. People are finally saying WTF? Winning millions over 5 years playing rated and under the eye of pit and surveillance? And no one cares.

That is one of positions I hate about Mdawg. He keeps saying casino don't care when players win. Any AP knows that is BS. Most of us work hard at winning and still being able to play.

Don't feed us shit like that.

[accountinquestion]

Anyway, can see the usual trolls and haters want to make this about me....as they always do.

I just wanted make note of what is finally occurring at WoV. People are finally saying WTF? Winning millions over 5 years playing rated and under the eye of pit and surveillance? And no one cares.

That is one of positions I hate about Mdawg. He keeps saying casino don't care when players win. Any AP knows that is BS. Most of us work hard at winning and still being able to play.

Don't feed us shit like that.

Maybe Mdawg is some sort of uber genius and the casino lets him do his thing hoping they'll finally be able to crack his secret?

Or perhaps they just think he is running good.

[MDawg]

Anyway, can see the usual trolls and haters want to make this about me....as they always do.

AccountInQuestion, did you hear that one? UNKewlJ is complaining about "making a thread all about him"?



Not that UNKewlJ EVER tries to make a thread "all about him."

[kewlJ]

Maybe Mdawg is some sort of uber genius and the casino lets him do his thing hoping they'll finally be able to crack his secret?

Or perhaps they just think he is running good.

Here is the problem with these "suppose this or that".

A player isn't "just running good" for several hundred days a year for going on 6 years. The casinos put an end to it long before that even if they have no clue what he might be doing.

They don't care about your "secrets" or what you might be doing. If a player is winning and they are outside the 3 or 4 standard deviation mark for any reasonable amount of play, the casino will put a stop to it. That is why real advantage players and winning players have to do the things we do to still be able to play. With Table games, that means playing unrated, short sessions, and a variety of other measures.

What you are describing and have been describing for almost 6 years, a player playing hundreds of days a year, winning 90% of those days/sessions to the tune of millions of dollars and the casinos not caring and comping and welcoming that player is just a fairytale. It just is not something that happens on this planet, particularly in this town of Las vegas where they knew what they are doing.

It is simply a case of you pissing on the legs of real players, real APs and winning players and telling them it is raining, which also doesn't happen much here i Vegas.

THAT is what I object to.

Now why don't you go ahead and now tell us what this last 6 years has really been about. Is it a book, or novel or movie scrip? Because it sure as hell hasn't been about a real player sharing his real experiences.

[kewlJ]

By the way, according to your posts, Mdawg is not just some uber genius at gambling, but also at stock trading, and an expert skier, and snow boarder, and half a dozen other things that you claim to be the best at.