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  1. #1081
    I found this video of Rob and Alan.



    At about the 1 minute mark, Rob started talking about video poker games not being random.

    If that belief is still true, I don't see the point in arguing.... You either believe you are playing a fair game and side with the math people (i.e. MC) or you believe it's not random and you side with... I'm not even sure what to call it... (I.e. Rob).

    If there is not alignment on whether the deal and draw are random, there is no basis for a conversation. All you have left at best is a debate or a argument on whether games are or are not random. Am I right?

    I want to assume it is a debate and the goal is to influence the audience on who is right and who is wrong. I know what I think...

    Or maybe this is just an argument where the goal is nothing more than to hurt or diminish the other person?

    The most baffeling thing here is both people claim to be making a mint... Defense and prosecuting attorneys both join the same country clubs and doctors and business men. Each one of them had different paths to success... But somehow, gambling is different I guess.

  2. #1082
    Besides seeing patterns Rob also hears things. He's the only guy I know that can hear someone giving him the finger.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #1083
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Besides seeing patterns Rob also hears things. He's the only guy I know that can hear someone giving him the finger.
    Ha!

    Ok, I admit it.... I kinda like the insults.

  4. #1084
    mickey has nothing else in life, so the props do help.

    Prozema--my discussion regarding whether machines are random are not as cut and dry as mickey's cardboard box full of dirty laundry that he turns over and starts re-using instead of hitting some laundromat, when he runs out of clean underwear.

    I don't believe all machines are biased, and I play anyway hoping and assuming that the one I'm playing isn't. Because each machine I play is only for a short time, it's possible random or not random doesn't matter. One thing stands out though: whatever they are, it has not hurt my years of consistent profiting.

    Now back to mickey. OK, that's it.

  5. #1085
    Rob Singer: I think you should be careful about what posts and threads you respond to outside of the two set by Dan.

    I don't think anyone will fault you for a meaningful response to a statement made in an "outside post" but to do battle with your critics with troll-like posts should stop.

    You're here to explain your system and respond to questions and statements.

    And to the others: don't post things to create turmoil. If you have an honest question or statement then ask it. Returning to the BS of old is not what anyone wants.

  6. #1086
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    C’mon Mickey, stop the nonsense. You're really making yourself look like a fool. Did you jump off the wagon? That would explain your behavior.
    Hey, BH. Haven't heard from you in awhile. Still working on that keno math problem? Can't git 'r done, eh? Here, I'll make it easier on you yet. What is the probability of catching exactly 2 out of 3 in the 3-spot along with 2 or more catches in the 4-spot? I'll expect your answer on my desk this afternoon.

    Yessiree, AP'ing is for simpletons, right?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  7. #1087
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    C’mon Mickey, stop the nonsense. You're really making yourself look like a fool. Did you jump off the wagon? That would explain your behavior.
    Hey, BH. Haven't heard from you in awhile. Still working on that keno math problem? Can't git 'r done, eh? Here, I'll make it easier on you yet. What is the probability of catching exactly 2 out of 3 in the 3-spot along with 2 or more catches in the 4-spot? I'll expect your answer on my desk this afternoon.

    Yessiree, AP'ing is for simpletons, right?
    What is the probability of catching this or catching that? Your life at your age is still based on gambling game probabilities. If at my age my family’s life and health care was supported by results of gambling game probabilities offered by casinos to anyone in the world willing to risk money to play them; I would get a good life policy and jump on a fucking sword.

    Mickey, are you really serious with this nonsense? Do you even realize how meaningless challenging people with your AP quizzes is to most of us? Some of us are more concerned about how our tax lawyer’s firm / accountant juggles the numbers. Especially during this time of the year. Hoping 10 out of 80 balls with numbers on them that fall from a random game, and that two hit out of the three I picked, isn’t going to do any good with my tax issues.

    I thought while eating lunch, Keno was a game you played for entertainment. I couldn’t even picture how bad things would have to get for me to spend days and nights in a casino watching balls dropping, hoping the probability of a meal comes with a winning ticket.

    It seems the more you talk the more credibility you lose. Leave it alone Mickey. You’re a colorful guy. We really love ya man.

  8. #1088
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    C’mon Mickey, stop the nonsense. You're really making yourself look like a fool. Did you jump off the wagon? That would explain your behavior.
    Hey, BH. Haven't heard from you in awhile. Still working on that keno math problem? Can't git 'r done, eh? Here, I'll make it easier on you yet. What is the probability of catching exactly 2 out of 3 in the 3-spot along with 2 or more catches in the 4-spot? I'll expect your answer on my desk this afternoon.

    Yessiree, AP'ing is for simpletons, right?
    What is the probability of catching this or catching that? Your life at your age is still based on gambling game probabilities. If at my age my family’s life and health care was supported by results of gambling game probabilities offered by casinos to anyone in the world willing to risk money to play them; I would get a good life policy and jump on a fucking sword.

    Mickey, are you really serious with this nonsense? Do you even realize how meaningless challenging people with your AP quizzes is to most of us? Some of us are more concerned about how our tax lawyer’s firm / accountant juggles the numbers. Especially during this time of the year. Hoping 10 out of 80 balls with numbers on them that fall from a random game, and that two hit out of the three I picked, isn’t going to do any good with my tax issues.

    I thought while eating lunch, Keno was a game you played for entertainment. I couldn’t even picture how bad things would have to get for me to spend days and nights in a casino watching balls dropping, hoping the probability of a meal comes with a winning ticket.

    It seems the more you talk the more credibility you lose. Leave it alone Mickey. You’re a colorful guy. We really love ya man.
    Au contraire, bison breath! Solving these kinds of math problems has always been fun to me. It's called fun with numbers. And quite lucrative in many cases. My whole point to you is Advanced AP'ing isn't for simpletons. Not everyone can do it. There is a lot of knowledge and skill involved.

    If you are happy in retirement then more power to you. I could go back home and sit in a rocking chair for the rest of my life but I just don't want to do it. Damn, that would be boring. I'm gonna keep doing what I do until I just can't get around anymore. If it gets to that point, that is, if I don't die suddenly, but have to lay around waiting to die, I have a lot more to tell about what I do. There's a lot of it I haven't told because I don't want to get crowded in by other AP's.

    The keno problems I put up are a demonstration of what one has to be capable of to analyze games correctly. Keno progressives and banking games are Montana specific. I've worked them for ten years. Consequently I have more knowledge and experience on them than any AP in history. So I put up three keno problems:

    What is the probability of catching at least 2 out of 3 in a 3-spot while also catching at least 2 out of 4 in a 4-spot? I honestly don't know the answer because I've never done the math on it. It doesn't apply to any game I currently play.

    What is the probability of catching exactly 2 out of 3 in a 3-spot while also catching at least 2 out of 4 in a 4-spot? The answer is 1 in 31.

    What is the probability of catching exactly 3 out of 3 in the 3-spot while catching at least 2 out of 4 in the 4-spot? The answer is 1 in 344.

    Anyone can run these numbers by the Wizard or any other mathematician for verification if they want. But I just wanted to show you, BH, that there is a lot more to AP than you think there is. If you had the ability you would have posted up the answers. But you don't have that ability so all you could do is boo hoo it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #1089
    mickey, stop giving out bad information. You try so hard to talk yourself into how you really really really like your non-productive, valueless, no-family life. And it might be an OK thing if you didn't keep lying about "how great it is for a loner like you". With all that does come the ongoing and real self-realization of having been given a life that you squandered away because you're nothing but a lazy white man--you DO know that, don't you?

    I understand the need to keep telling yourself you finally found worth in life by training yourself how to analyze silly low level gambling machines, but in the end all you're really doing is running around to casinos hoping to get lucky first in actually FINDING one of these machines that, as you call it, are ripe for the picking, and then you hope to get lucky in hitting it! So you're just like any other gambler--you rely on luck, only you need luck to appear on several levels.

    In fact, what you say you do is no different that what I do. I use the math of the game and wait for either a lucky hand or an opportunistic deal that I can either play conservatively or hope for good luck with an alternate hold. And just like you picking off your jackpots, my large ones happen at times also.

    So use your head when you try to impress the AP's here about this stuff. While it may be a crowning achievement in your uneventful life to be going around making your two-bit living, most of the rest of us have achieved far greater things in life leading up to having conquered gambling or even just enjoying it as a pastime.

    And I'm sorry, but looking back over comment history, your ratings have been highest after your drunken, vulgar & threat-filled rants. With no family or relationships left behind, that's quite the legacy.

  10. #1090
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    mickey, stop giving out bad information. You try so hard to talk yourself into how you really really really like your non-productive, valueless, no-family life. And it might be an OK thing if you didn't keep lying about "how great it is for a loner like you". With all that does come the ongoing and real self-realization of having been given a life that you squandered away because you're nothing but a lazy white man--you DO know that, don't you?

    I understand the need to keep telling yourself you finally found worth in life by training yourself how to analyze silly low level gambling machines, but in the end all you're really doing is running around to casinos hoping to get lucky first in actually FINDING one of these machines that, as you call it, are ripe for the picking, and then you hope to get lucky in hitting it! So you're just like any other gambler--you rely on luck, only you need luck to appear on several levels.

    In fact, what you say you do is no different that what I do. I use the math of the game and wait for either a lucky hand or an opportunistic deal that I can either play conservatively or hope for good luck with an alternate hold. And just like you picking off your jackpots, my large ones happen at times also.

    So use your head when you try to impress the AP's here about this stuff. While it may be a crowning achievement in your uneventful life to be going around making your two-bit living, most of the rest of us have achieved far greater things in life leading up to having conquered gambling or even just enjoying it as a pastime.

    And I'm sorry, but looking back over comment history, your ratings have been highest after your drunken, vulgar & threat-filled rants. With no family or relationships left behind, that's quite the legacy.
    I do have to admit you are good for a lot of laughs. The views are definitely up since your return. I think that's what Dan is after. They don't sign up though. Not tough enough to take your bullshit and dish it back. They are not laughing with you they are laughing at you. You're the butt of all the jokes in the gambling world. If all you want is a troll fest lets git it on, bitch.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #1091
    You see? I got your goat by telling what everybody knows is the exact, precise truth about you!

    Everyone's just WAITING for you to come apart at the seams mickey. Don't disappoint!

  12. #1092
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I could go back home and sit in a rocking chair for the rest of my life but I just don't want to do it. Damn, that would be boring. I'm gonna keep doing what I do until I just can't get around anymore. If it gets to that point, that is, if I don't die suddenly, but have to lay around waiting to die, I have a lot more to tell about what I do. There's a lot of it I haven't told because I don't want to get crowded in by other AP's.
    You'll be long gone before you actually realize that no one gives a hoot. You're arguing with a guy who sells a $5 paperback gambling book (over on Alan's site) to riches that people now use for toilet paper.
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  13. #1093
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You see? I got your goat by telling what everybody knows is the exact, precise truth about you!

    Everyone's just WAITING for you to come apart at the seams mickey. Don't disappoint!
    That's you that will be coming apart at the seams. You're a weakling in real life but a cyber bully online. Poor pathetic slobbie the welsher. Lololol! Go hug your mother's neck candy ass mama's boy.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #1094
    Now you're showing everyone where *The proof is in the pudding" came from

    Still waiting for the calm, balmy mickeycrimm to blow his stack!!!

  15. #1095
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Now you're showing everyone where *The proof is in the pudding" came from

    Still waiting for the calm, balmy mickeycrimm to blow his stack!!!
    Not gonna happen for ya, bitch. You're an easy read, bimbo. You always go for the exclamation marks when you're steaming. Watch out. Fire in the hole. Slobbie's about to explode.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #1096
    OK mickey, you win. I have a BBQ to host tonight, and you have nothing else to do but your life's dream of living your pretend internet life. And I see that includes not being able to help yourself from producing tension-filled vulgarity

  17. #1097
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    OK mickey, you win. I have a BBQ to host tonight, and you have nothing else to do but your life's dream of living your pretend internet life. And I see that includes not being able to help yourself from producing tension-filled vulgarity
    Says the guy thats made 200,000 internet posts. But I can see you are busy tonight so go ahead and get back to giving your wife that enema.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #1098
    The Wizard of Odds Quote:

    April 12th, 2018 at 9:54:22
    Per the new lower standard of evidence required to nuke members for multiple accounts, LayMeDown has been nuked based on convincing evidence that he is formally banned member varmenti.

    April 12th, 2018 at 10:37:15
    I've been known to buy souls for $10.

    Buying Souls? He has told me in public posts that he doesn't believe in a god or a man in the sky. How could he buy souls when he doesn't believe in them?

    I don't understand why this Wizard just doesn't make WoV membership pay dues and close off the board to the public view? I guess that wouldn't be as fun as banning people with no real evidence now. He, by his rules, only needs suspicion which he is the sole judge in making that decision.

    Recently they re posted in his thread showing his article about prostitution in Las Vegas. I still have the problem with his idea of morals and how he seems to enjoy talking about this topic.

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/ques...-in-las-vegas/

    https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/f...-in-las-vegas/

  19. #1099
    He's just blowing off steam from having to deal with the remnants of his once-amicable home life monet. He's still a decent guy. Give him time to contemplate what selling his soul really did to him.

  20. #1100
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    I found this video of Rob and Alan.



    At about the 1 minute mark, Rob started talking about video poker games not being random.

    If that belief is still true, I don't see the point in arguing.... You either believe you are playing a fair game and side with the math people (i.e. MC) or you believe it's not random and you side with... I'm not even sure what to call it... (I.e. Rob).

    If there is not alignment on whether the deal and draw are random, there is no basis for a conversation. All you have left at best is a debate or a argument on whether games are or are not random. Am I right?

    I want to assume it is a debate and the goal is to influence the audience on who is right and who is wrong. I know what I think...

    Or maybe this is just an argument where the goal is nothing more than to hurt or diminish the other person?

    The most baffeling thing here is both people claim to be making a mint... Defense and prosecuting attorneys both join the same country clubs and doctors and business men. Each one of them had different paths to success... But somehow, gambling is different I guess.
    Dear God they are dumb. It is hard to believe anyone would film themselves spewing such idiocy.

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